~MERGED~ Judgment Day, Future Disaster & Pole Shift 2012

razhar

--The cataclysms present those who would survive with several challenges. Hailstones, firestorms with brief period of oxygen depletion, earthquakes of a magnitude mankind has never experienced, rapid mountain building, spewing volcanoes, winds of hurricane force, and tidal waves high enough to sweep over tall buildings. What to do?

Tidal Waves
--As the exact position of the Earth when it stops rotation cannot be calculated, just which shore will experience the worst tidal waves cannot be predicted. This is more severe on the dark side of the Earth, as the waters are gripped by the passing comet on the side facing the Sun, and thus are not as free to flow. Practically speaking, to take no chances, one should calculate to a height of 200 feet and be at least 100 miles away from any shore.
  
Volcanoes
--Clearly safety involves removing oneself from active or even relatively active volcanoes. Volcanoes, new and old, will present those living nearby with sudden activity during the cataclysms, with little warning. The plates are thicker than man presumes, but the thickness become slush, semi-molten lava which is more attached to the plates than the core.

--For mankind, which lives atop the plates, the issue is where the breaks are. Those plates that form the continents are composed of lighter material than the plates deep under the seas. It is no coincidence that they float higher or lower. It is not the weight of water that pushes the plates under the ocean down, as they must have been down in the first place for the water to have settled there.

--The semi-molten lava under the plates gives way to heavy objects floating on its sea, just as objects floating on water sink more deeply than lighter objects which buoy to the surface. For man, in addition to being positioned on light plates, being in the center of large land plates is a safety factor. For man, staying away from the edges of plates where very molten lava can seep and explode, during pressure of plate movement, is a significant safety factor.
  
Mountain Building
--Remove yourselves from areas where mountain building is likely to occur. Flat plains or plateaus are safest. In this, geological analysis of plates should be your guide. Don't be above a subducting plate, as even if you are riding on top, the ground beneath you may be heated white hot, from friction.
  
Earthquakes
--The earthquakes will essentially level all cities, and of course railways, landing strips, and highways and bridges will be unusable. Don't figure on any power or water systems to be functional, and the telephones will surely be permanently dead.

--Practically speaking, one should shield any mechanical or electrical devices one hopes to use after the cataclysms with extensive padding such as rubber mats. Wrap everything as though it were going to be dropped from a height of 500 feet.

--Test this, and see if your device survives. If not, then sturdier devices may be required. Independent power sources, such as windmills, need to be secured. Batteries may be handy, but won't last long and will not be replaceable. Your mechanical and electrical structures will suffer damage from violent earthquakes more than your flesh and bones.

--You may bruise and break, but you heal. Your electrical device will stay broken. When the earthquakes are expected, lie flat. In this way you will skid and slide a few feet. Standing, or positioned at a height, you will be dashed. And by all means, do not be under a structure that will fall upon and crush you.
  
Hailstone and Firestorms
--Metal roofs will deflect the firestorms and hailstones also, if sufficiently thick. The thickness of a protective metal plate is not as important as simply being metal, not bursting into flame.

--Thin metal can bend and crumble under pressure, where thick metal might shear or snap, having less flexibility. Where the metal is deemed to be protection from falling ash and rocks from exploding volcanoes, the thicker the better. For large meteors, which are few, there is no safety measure to be taken.

--Trust to luck, there. If the shelter you are in is not open to the outside, temporary depletion of oxygen will not affect you.

razhar

--Consider what is necessary to run the average manufacturing plant, which runs heavy machinery. Gears, metal plates - it all looks quite solid. Lets say the building stands after the pole shift, having been retrofitted and braced, and the machinery itself is pretty durable. Some parts break, but one can replace them, so why would it not run?

--There are factors in this scenario that are not being considered. All the necessary small parts, the lubricants and additives, that will not be available. Most lubricants are necessary, to maintain a certain chemical balance, or there is corrosion. Without these lubricants, parts burn out, wear out, and you can't simply pour water or any chemical in, you need a particular chemical.

--The chemical industry will be very hard hit, as much of their stores are liquid and will burst, spray, disburse, and require specialized ingredients to create in the first place. So you back up, endlessly, and anytime there is a break in the link, the link is broken and affects everything downstream.

--So it all goes down the chain. Even a tiny broken part can stop the process, as perhaps a particular metal or particular alloy is needed. Without this a particular function won't occur, an electrical impulse will not occur, or an etching will not occur. If that alloy is missing, all the rest of the machinery becomes idle, and simply is not effective. And if it's not effective, what is the point of maintaining it.

--What motive is there for staying and maintaining this factory? Who is going to feed the workers, or pay their salary? There is simply no flow of money. Bridges are down. The grid is down.

--The government is in chaos, and gone off to huddle and get drunk and discuss among themselves. Workers do not come out of loyalty, starving to death, to keep a corporate fat cat in business. They go off, attempting to find food for themselves. If the industry loses its skills, what occurs?

--Any industry that finds that its skilled workers are no longer available fails! This is a common fact, and one reason that bringing immigrants into the US, educated and with a skill set, is considered a necessity. 3rd World countries can't even get started unless they have this educated skill set. If it goes off, because its more important to feed the family than keep the boss in power, who's going to run the factory?

--It's for these reasons that industry will not run, but will go idle. There are cities discovered in Central American and in China, found under the jungles or under the shifting sands, with no explanation for where the inhabitants went. These were great cities with grand steps.

--They had irrigation, water flowing through the city, so why did it collapse? Was it a great plague? Was it a terrible drought? Did someone come and slaughter them all? These are remnants of pole shifts, where great civilizations have fallen in the past. The survivors wander, in search of a better life.

--They are often confused, as they don't know what has hit them. They are sure this is a local event and they are off to find out where the sun is shining and the grain is growing. They all wander. So your industries will be idle, for these reasons.

razhar

--Money will begin to lose its value long before the cataclysms hit. This will be worldwide, and in almost all human cultures. Why should this be the case, when, as we have stated, the majority of humanity will either be unaware of the coming cataclysms or in denial?

--The financial structure of the world's financial empires is really quite fragile. Look to the swings of the stock markets, the bond markets, and other speculations. Panic sets in at a moment's notice. The problem is that financial matters are based on human perceptions of worth.

--This moves about, even in the most stable of times. The value of an item increases during shortage, plummets during times of plenty, and otherwise is affected by various perceptions of being in the right place at the right time. There are gamblers aplenty in the financial arenas.

--One of the reasons that financial giants among the elite seek to negate awareness of the alien presence is their fear of the repercussions on the financial markets. If they cannot negate awareness, they seek to minimize panic. Look to history, to see how little it took to create financial panics.

--What with the millennium approaching, and all the dire predictions made by many, true or untrue, many people worldwide will be on edge. Add to this the increasing crop failures, with consequent food shortages, affecting the markets in commodities.

--Humans of good heart concerned with survival through the cataclysms are advised not to look to the money markets for assistance. Put your money into land and stable structures, documentation on the technologies and scientific knowledge of today, and apparatus with which to grow hydroponic vegetables and tanks for fish and crustaceans on the nutrients from recycled sewage.

razhar

----3 days of darkness, then 6 days of sunrise from the west, then a rotation...stoppage for 6 days.

--That's the drop dead signs. For submerged, Malaysia does not fare well.

trebadoure7

100 km dari persisiran pantai.........
aku berapa km je dr laut ni
rasenya 5 km je kot.....bukit yg dekat kat rumah aku ni pun dah nak gondol........
mana mau lari daaaaa..........

trebadoure7

kemusnahan pasti terjadi
tapi takkan takde action dr kita sume
untuk kecilkan skala kemusnahan dia?
takdelah sampai lesap malaysia ni kat peta dunia.....
gilanya kemusnahan

trebadoure7

Originally posted by rempo at 19-9-2008 12:00 PM
Pole shift itu cuma teori saja yg kita semua tak tahu bilakah akan berlaku atau tidak berlaku sama sekali sekurang2nya dlm jangkahayat kita.

Tapi kalau betul2lah berlaku pada 2012 atau dalam j ...

ade ker org nak sponsor bina kapal ni?

razhar

penyelesaian nya ialah satu je..pindah ke tempat yg disahkan selamat..khasnya tanah tinggi..

tarabas1976

Originally posted by razhar at 21-9-2008 07:12 AM
penyelesaian nya ialah satu je..pindah ke tempat yg disahkan selamat..khasnya tanah tinggi..

Mari berpindah ke Kenya dan Republik Gabon

tarabas1976

Gabon (pronounced /gəˈbɒn/ or /gaˈbõ/ in French) is a country in west central Africa sharing borders with Equatorial Guinea, Cameroon, Republic of the Congo and the Gulf of Guinea. The capital and largest city is Libreville. Since its independence from France on August 17, 1960, the Republic has been ruled by two presidents. In the early 1990s, Gabon introduced a multi party system and a new democratic constitution that allowed for a more transparent electoral process and reformed many governmental institutions. A small population (less than two million), abundant natural resources, and foreign private investment have helped make Gabon one of the most prosperous countries in the region, with the highest HDI in Sub-Saharan Africa.

mac_taylor

Originally posted by razhar at 21-9-2008 01:42 AM
jarak selamat...100km dari persisiran pantai..300m minima ketinggian untuk selamat....

Bukan 100KM la bro, tapi 100 batu dari persisiran pantai..
By the way, ko dpt articles panjang2 tu dari mana yerk? ZETA ke?
Kat section mana? Berpinau bijik mata aku baca frontpage dia.
Bnyk sgt underlined words.

mac_taylor

Originally posted by trebadoure7 at 21-9-2008 05:15 AM
kemusnahan pasti terjadi
tapi takkan takde action dr kita sume
untuk kecilkan skala kemusnahan dia?
takdelah sampai lesap malaysia ni kat peta dunia.....
gilanya kemusnahan

Klu ikut kata ZETA, peta Malaysia akan lenyap bro...
Seluruh peta dunia akan berubah...  masa tu dah xde sempadan negara dah..
Bnyk negara2 akan tenggelam di dasar laut..
Ada daratan yg akan muncul dari dasar laut..

Tapi itulah, aku x tau sejauh mana kredibiliti ZETA dlm menyingkap tmpt2 yg selamat ni, blh dipercayai..
Aku nak gak tau pendapat2 dari org2/saintis lain...
Kot2 kita x perlu pindah ker..  
Nak pindah, xkan aku nak pindah sorang...
Mesti kena bgtau family..
Family aku plak besarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Pastu jenis yg x mudah pecaya benda2 cenggini...
Percuma jek kang aku kena antar masuk spital bahagia...  

trebadoure7

aku cerita lah hal ni kat kawan aku pagi tadi
diorang bantai gelak jer..
ade sorang tu cakap kat aku yang jgn caya sgt benda ni
sebenarnya benda ni dakyah dari pihak barat je utk takutkan org islam
bila org islam dgr psl benda ni, diorang akn panik
secara automatik org islam akn dtg kat diorang bg meminta perlindungan
sbb diorang igt kita fikir yg diorang ni maju, moden
mesti diorang dah aware dan cipta alat yang canggih manggih utk mengelakkan disaster ni
so, senang la kerja diorang nak sesatkan kita sbb kita dah jd part of them
bila kita takut, kita sanggup buat apa aje kan utk selamat....tulah kata kawan aku
----penat jugak berdebat ngan dia tadik

apa pendapat korang? camna nak patahkan hujah ni?
esok nak sambung lagi nih.....


[ Last edited by  trebadoure7 at 21-9-2008 03:19 PM ]

trebadoure7

camna lah nak pindah masa tuh
kalau berlaku antara 2011-2012
masa tuh aku baru berumur 21-22 tahun
apalah agaknya remaja yg berumur sedemikian ghupe muleh buat
dahlah ekonomi tak kukuh lansung

demonagirl6

Originally posted by razhar at 21-9-2008 02:51 AM
----3 days of darkness, then 6 days of sunrise from the west, then a rotation...stoppage for 6 days.

--That's the drop dead signs. For submerged, Malaysia does not fare well.

yg neh dari hadis...tanda2 kiamat besar kan?
so yg neh sblm pole shift ka during pole shift?

demonagirl6

Originally posted by trebadoure7 at 21-9-2008 03:22 PM
camna lah nak pindah masa tuh
kalau berlaku antara 2011-2012
masa tuh aku baru berumur 21-22 tahun
apalah agaknya remaja yg berumur sedemikian ghupe muleh buat
dahlah ekonomi tak kukuh lansung

klu benar la mende neh berlaku...
aku masa neh leh tanggong sundri..
but...aku ader adik2 kecik...and parents..
takkan la aku nak biarkan dorg gitu saja...kat Miri tuh..and runaway to Kalimantan sorg diri..
my family would neva believe about this..

demonagirl6

Originally posted by mac_taylor at 21-9-2008 10:29 AM
Klu ikut kata ZETA, peta Malaysia akan lenyap bro...
Seluruh peta dunia akan berubah...  masa tu dah xde sempadan negara dah..
Bnyk negara2 akan tenggelam di dasar laut..
Ada daratan yg akan muncul dari dasar laut..

Tapi itulah, aku x tau sejauh mana kredibiliti ZETA dlm menyingkap tmpt2 yg selamat ni, blh dipercayai..
Aku nak gak tau pendapat2 dari org2/saintis lain...
Kot2 kita x perlu pindah ker..  
Nak pindah, xkan aku nak pindah sorang...
Mesti kena bgtau family..
Family aku plak besarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Pastu jenis yg x mudah pecaya benda2 cenggini...
Percuma jek kang aku kena antar masuk spital bahagia...  

well aku nyer thought on this is 50-50
it'll prolly happen or not...

klu mende neh benar2 terjadi
haha...that's the dilemma...
klu nak pindah...tak pat pindah sorg2...rasa bersalah..cos..kita tinggalkan loves one kita..
plan aku cam neh...tapi susah lah..
mula2 kita berusaha jadi kaya...
and then aku convince family aku to move to Kalimantan to retire there....
tapi family aku ader family business kat Miri...
and dorg jenis yg tak percaya mende2 neh berlaku..

klu tak pat convince dorg pindah tempat lain...
then prolly i'll have to stay...
plan2 nak ikot kursus ...contoh blaja healing and etc...
and if there's a capsule yg bley buat parents and adik2 aku sihat and kebal
mesti aku dah masok capsule tuh lam makanan and air2 dorg..

trebadoure7

ni semua by the way is just only a ramalan right?
not something which bound to be right?
cam demona cakap, 50-50...
kalau nak buat planning mau mkn bertaun-taun baru stabil hidup aku
alamat mati katak jelah....

tu hujah kat atas yg aku post tu
takde sape dpt patahkan lagik..
esok nak bertanding plak nie

demonagirl6

Originally posted by aizverus at 21-9-2008 05:57 PM
kenapa nak lari kan diri dari takdir????

kalau kita lari ke gunung sekali pun..kalu dah itu tempat matinya kita...so, it will be..even tak kena air bah pun...

hanya satu je prepared yang pe ...

makrifat tuh...yg macam psychic powers tuh ker boleh jadi kebal bagai?
maaf aku kurang pengetahuan pasal mende2 cam neh

demonagirl6

Originally posted by aizverus at 21-9-2008 10:11 PM
erk?

bila plak aku sentuh pasal kebal2 ni...orang kata..suh ikut takdir..sebab, kalu survive pun..mampu ke kita nak layari dunia yang dah hancur..tinggal nak meletup jerk..

camno tuh...

...

tapi mac cakap....
klu mati katak gitu saja...tak der buat persediaan or berusaha...dosa besar as if...bunoh diri..
so...do you mean that...kita...just...wait there and die?