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Dapat Arahan Mahkamah Rawat Suami Positif Covid-19 Guna Ivermectin
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Hahahaha. Tadi cakap saya insult intelligence bila saya cakap Ivermectin bertindak dengan cara suppress virus.
Bila dah diberikan bukti, journal sendiri yang cakap Ivermectin bertindak sebegitu, terus la twist cakap taknak layan ye.
Itu lah, lain kali, jangan terlampau confident bila bercakap sesuatu.
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Point saya tunjuk paper tu, sebab nak menunjukkan journal sendiri cakap Ivermectin bertindak dengan cara suppress/inhibit HIV virus.
Sebab ada forumer cakap, saya insult dia punya intelligence bila saya menyatakan Ivermectin bertindak dengan cara inhibit/suppress virus. Nampaknya paper tu pun, insult intelligence pembaca juga la, sebab menyatakan Ivermectin bertindak dengan cara suppress virus.
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Edited by Samerosie at 1-9-2021 11:35 PM
supermum replied at 1-9-2021 11:03 PM
Cer tepek full text. Takleh masuk kena bayar pulak. Lecturer ipta mesti boleh access guna uni puny ...
Journal published May 2020. I dah tau uni dia, so I tau dah ni bukan bidang research dia. Main tepek je supaya org ingat dia pandai.
But that paper yg dia tepek tu bukan actual discussion on ivermectin supressing hiv -1 virus, author tu was making reference to other paper. So tak tau dia buat trial on monkeys ke human ke apes ke tak tau zero info.
Penbetulan: journal published march 2020. Rasanya kalau betul la kan dah masuk dalam the cocktail tu. |
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Edited by Inadori at 1-9-2021 11:56 PM
The point is, journal tu ada kata Ivermectin menyekat/suppress HIV virus. Previously ke, currently ke, the point is still there. You cannot deny that.
We previously identified the small molecule ivermectin as an inhibitor of HIV-1 integrase nuclear entry, subsequently showing ivermectin could inhibit DENV NS5 nuclear import, as well as limit infection by viruses such as HIV-1 and DENV.
Tadi kata saya insult intelligence bila saya kata Ivermectin bertindak begitu. Bila diberikan journal juga menyatakan Ivermectin bertindak suppress HIV, awak twist ke lain pulak kan.
Dah terkantoi menghina orang menyatakan insult intelligence, twist ke lain pulak.
Pusing selagi boleh kan. Asalkan ada berbaur hinaan.
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Inadori replied at 1-9-2021 11:03 PM
Hahahaha. Tadi cakap saya insult intelligence bila saya cakap Ivermectin bertindak dengan cara sup ...
Still insulting people’s intelligence. You sendiri tak tau apa isi the whole paper in fact no one knows the key findings sebab you cuma tepek abstract je. Plus author was referring to previous paper bukan yg dlm u tepek ni.
In fact, they keywords for this paper yg u tepek ni tak de pun hiv, but
Flavivirus
Nuclear transport inhibitor
Importins
Viral infection
West nile virus
Dengue virus
Zika virus
Mana hiv nye?
Tepek la lagi ye sampai lebam.
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Astagfirullahalazim. Takde HIV ape kebendenya. Nak kena tepek berapa kali ni?
We previously identified the small molecule ivermectin as an inhibitor of HIV-1 integrase nuclear entry, subsequently showing ivermectin could inhibit DENV NS5 nuclear import, as well as limit infection by viruses such as HIV-1 and DENV.
Inhibit HIV nuclear entry. Inhibit HIV dari masuk ke dalam nucleus cell.
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Samerosie replied at 1-9-2021 05:31 PM
Dr. Ryan Marino Covid trends like ivermectin are deadly distractions. Why can't we stop them?We need ...
Terima kasih atas perkongsian. |
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Edited by Inadori at 1-9-2021 11:57 PM
Desperate much? Sampai kaitkan dengan tak ada dalam keywords? Tak ada dalam keywords, tapi ada dalam teks, abaikan je la ye?
Gila dah tahap pusing ni. Nak cover malu, tadi dah tuduh orang insult intelligence. Bila bagi bukti journal pun cakap macam tu, dia pusing lagi, pusing lagi.
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Edited by Afie13 at 1-9-2021 11:41 PM
Samerosie replied at 1-9-2021 10:24 PM
Tq sis for the link. Macam kes lady ni kan, tak boleh ke request post mortem? One of the criteri ...
I x pasti diaorg ada buat post mortem atau tak sbb normally yg meninggal jika umur dah 40an ke atas biasa family request utk x buat post mortem mcm arwah mil i x buat post mortem pun masa meninggal 6 tahun lepas
Mcm kes ni doktor bagitau mak dia meninggal sbb penyakit n bukan sebab vaksin. I nak tepek link fb dia pun x boleh sbb dah selamat didelete oleh fb. I rasa kalau buat post mortem pun maybe x boleh dikaitkan directly dgn vaksin covid sbb tu lah KKM berani claim xde kes kematian disebabkan oleh vaksin |
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dee4ellese replied at 1-9-2021 10:36 PM
Kata researcher.. Tadi KJ cakap yg kena aefi based on yg self update kat mysejahtera yg betul2 ter ...
Ha baru la nampak ada akal
Dah kena basuh macam macam
Macam aku kata, bersyukur la keluarga kita tak kena apa apa kesan
Tu data
Ko ingat orang nak ambik peduli ke benda macam tu?
Kalau dalam keluarga si abang dah cucuk
Lepaa cucuk collapes paatu koma
Si adik tetap yakin
Pegi cucuk juga
Lepas cucuk collapes juga terus ke IJN
ko agak adik beradik lain sepupu sepapat lain nak continue cucuk jugak dah tengok benda jadi depan mata ?
Pasru ko datang depan diorang tempek data KJ tu
Ko rase? Jalan ke?
Syukur la kita tak jadi apa apa
Orang lain tak macam tu
Assume 2 keluarga besar 20 ke 30 orang termasuk sepupu sepapat semua yang tolak vaksin sebab isu sepupu sepapat diorang
Kalau 10 keluarga ? Kalau 100 keluarga ?
Kalau 1000 keluarga ?
Versus dengan population memang nampak sikit
Tapi bila yg sikit tu adalah dapam keluarga ko
Jiran ko
Ko akan nampak obvious
Ha cop lah mereka ni antik vaksin
Cop lah mereka ni tolak ubat modern bagai
Wal hal selama ni aman aman je derang telan ubat moden yg dah diguna berpuluh tahun
Datang kat vaksin yang terang terang FDA approve sebab emergency use ni korang cop diorang tu antivacc
Aku membebel panjang panjang ni sebab keluarga aku sendiri jadi macam ni
Tu sebab aku cakap merata rata aku belum cukup doss kedua
Aku nak sebar kesedaran kat orang yang macam ko cop orang macam aku yang dulu antara pengecop orang anti vaksin juga
Karma is a bitch dekkk |
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Edited by Inadori at 1-9-2021 11:52 PM
Aha. Ni paper, membincangkan Ivermectin suppress HIV Virus dengan cara menghalang HIV virus masuk ke nucleus cell. Nampaknya paper ini juga insult intelligence pembaca.
In the present study, we characterized in detail the nuclear transport inhibitory properties of Ivermectin, demonstrating that it is a broad-spectrum inhibitor of importin α/β nuclear import, with no effect on a range of other nuclear import pathways, including that mediated by importin β1 alone. Importantly, we establish for the first time that ivermectin has potent antiviral activity towards both HIV-1 and dengue virus, both of which are strongly reliant on importin α/β nuclear import, with respect to the HIV-1 integrase and NS5 (non-structural protein 5) polymerase proteins respectively.
Ivermectin is a specific inhibitor of importin α/β-mediated nuclear import able to inhibit replication of HIV-1 and dengue virus. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22417684/.
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i'd say, let the natural selection take its course. 
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Inadori replied at 1-9-2021 11:51 PM
Aha. Ni paper, membincangkan Ivermectin suppress HIV Virus dengan cara menghalang HIV virus masuk k ...
Aha apa nya? You ni betul ke lecturer sebab tahap pemikiran macam still student.
The first journal yg you tepek tu published date I jumpa kat researchgate March 2020 which was last year. You baca tak derang buat in controlled lab guna vero cell from monkey sebab dia nak test zika virus ke jadahnya. Bukan HIV-1.
Authors ckp “they identified previously” via another research done in 2012 (Wagstaff et al) which was also an experiment done in controlled lab done close to 10 yrs ago.
Kalau betul la ivermectin ni boleh suppress hiv infection lama dah guna tapi tak de pun dalam cocktail list. Denggue treatment pun tak pakai ivermectin.
You ni betul ke reseacher? I rasa u ni pemikiran lebih ke macam undergrad je tak pun baru phd candidate.
Ok last la i reply ni i dah tak koser layan you dah. U je ka post sampai lebam ok. You win i sad boohooo… |
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Fortiori02 replied at 1-9-2021 11:37 PM
Terima kasih atas perkongsian.
Sama sama. |
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byk kes yg dpt blood clot tapi doc kata x boleh ops tu apa pulak solution nya cth penyanyi azian mazwan... bcoz of that doc x bagi dia ambil 2nd dose.. then mcm mana nak treat blood clot.. takkan nak biarkan je.. matter of time b4 dpt stroke..
seriously scary... yg dah lps dan xde side effect tu byk2 lah bersyukur..
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Samerosie replied at 2-9-2021 12:14 AM
Aha apa nya? You ni betul ke lecturer sebab tahap pemikiran macam still student.
The first jou ...
Paper tu tahun bila pun, tak kisah la. The point is, paper tu ada menyatakan Ivermectin inhibit HIV virus dengan cara halang kemasukan ke nucleus cell.
Sesuatu yg awak katakan saya insult intelligence bila saya katakan Ivermectin suppress HIV virus.
Nak spin tahap mana lagi makcik? Terima la hakikat dah salah cakap. |
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Samerosie replied at 2-9-2021 12:14 AM
Aha apa nya? You ni betul ke lecturer sebab tahap pemikiran macam still student.
The first jou ...
As usual, serang peribadi. Hahaha. Sleep well tonight ye makcik, walaupun dah tersalah cakap.
Dah tuduh orang insult intelligence, tapi terbukti gitu je journal pun ada cakap the cold hard facts how Ivermectin works againts HIV. |
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Samerosie replied at 2-9-2021 12:14 AM
Aha apa nya? You ni betul ke lecturer sebab tahap pemikiran macam still student.
The first jou ...
Bab konpident bercakap, walaupun salah, memang ko champion. Kahkahkah.
Dulu ko suruh orang demam supaya DEhydrate. Bila aku tegur, ko spin cakap salah eja. Boleh diterima la.
Tapi bila dah kantoi tuduh orang insult intelligence, rupanya ko sendiri yg tersilap, mampooo pusing je la kan???? Takkan nak cakap salah eja pulak dak?
Kahkahkahkah. |
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JessePinkman replied at 2-9-2021 12:56 AM
Bab konpident bercakap, walaupun salah, memang ko champion. Kahkahkah.
Dulu ko suruh orang dema ...
Setakat nak ulang sampai kau mampus typo aku tu je kau mampu. Aku tak payah ckp lebih2 dgn kau cuma aku nak ckp Kau faham tak kenapa forumers sini panggil dia bini blast? Kau tunggu je la esok kau gaduh dgn dia gak macam kau gaduh dgn blast. Masa tu aku (dan mungkin forumers lain) senyum sinis je la tengok. |
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xpe baguslah tu. biarlah pesakit tu jd tikus makmal ivm pulak, asyik org amek vaksin je kena cop jd tikus makmal. so org tu rela diuji dgn ivm, klu xde side effect kt org tu elok la tu. mcm org amek vaksin la, ada yg elok, ada yg cucuk makin menegang aset, ada yg demam, ada yg dpt kobid jgk. musim2 pandemik (buatan-konspirasi or natural source) terpaksa berikhtiar dan bertawakal gitu. cengkih, habatussauda, ketum, air kelapa amek je. kontemporari kan gaya mencegah. x salah pun. |
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