[MERGED] -- Athritis Reumatoid

Will milk do good for relieving bone aches of a 55 years old lady? Can you suggest a milk product to help alleviate the aches? Is it normal for ladies to have aches at the soles of her foot? Are these pains and aches leading to rheumatism? If to seek medical help, which doctor to I request for? General practitioner or some other doctor? How is rheumatism different from osteoporosis? I read somewhere that too much of calcium in-take for old people makes the bone brittle and is dangerous. Is this true? How much of calcium intake is advisable?

Pls advice.Thank you!

[ Last edited by DARSITA on 5-8-2004 at 11:15 AM ]

ukey dukey

i dont know if its a myth:re:
well i THINK its a myth:2cool:
that drinking milk will automatically improve your bones:eek::eek:

setahu saya la.. bone desity(ketumpatan tulang) kite akan bertambah until you are in your late 20.
lepas tu dier akan slowly deteriorate(or in a nearly plateu stage)..
lepas tu bila dah berhenti haid.. teruih menjunam ke bawah.. dan mendapat osteoporosis(kekurangan ketumpatan tulang)
(??do you understand what tumpat is??cam pelik je bahasa ni:re:)

minum susu, makan makanan yg banyak calcium and do exe..
banyak membantu masa tulang kite tgh tumbesar tu(before 30 y.o)..
but after that???emm.. does it really help???

maybe it will help dgn calcium store dalam badan..
but untuk meningkatkan ketumpatan tulang?? dun think so la

kalu mak2 kite sakit2 tulang tu.. kite rasa biasa la.. proses penuaan...
tapi kalu sakit sgt.. baik jumpe dr pakar tulang
kalu takut sgt ttg oseoporosis tu.. bole la buat bone scan.. tgk tulang camne

osteoporosis tu cam tulang yg dah ilang ketumpatannya
rheumatism plak cam..cam apa ye:eek: tu rheumatic arthritis ka?? tu adalah masalah tulang sendi akibat masalah sistem pertahanan badan
but kite rasa la.. awak nak tau ttg osteoarthritis kot...masalah sendi akibat proses penuaan

makan byk calcium x merosakkan tulang
tapi terlalu byk.. takut dapat batu calcium plak dalam pundi kencing ka..etc etc..cam tu la

emm..
mana pakar tulang yg nak komen ni..??
cepat2
dun be shy
kite semua nak dengaq ni:bg:

mbhcsf

hi and good evening..
for your information..I am NOta doctor but you can also browse any authorised medical website...
as far as i am concerned,
osteoporosis refers to a Bone'y" thing okay...your bones is described as being brittle and easily fractured if you were to fall...tend to occur commonly  in women after menopause due to the lack of oestrogen...
other risks factors are
1) being thin
2) low calcium intake
3) drugs esp steroids
40 inactive /sedantry life style
how much calcium do you need depends on your gender and age..really

rheumatisms denote joint problems like rheumatoid athritis / aaaetc ..nothing to do with OSTEOPOROSIS

but  you could go for a DEXA bone scan though..it's good...

Osteo = bone
rheuma = and the likes = joint

okay....bye..good luck and take care

[ Last edited by mbhcsf on 21-6-2003 at 12:30 AM ]

asalamualaikum,

Sesiapa yang tau pasal sakit athritis ni........mcmana nak kurangkan sakit dan makanan apa yg takboleh dimakan......saya nak tau sebab saya dah kena penyakit ni......skrg dlm rawatan doktor pakar.......nak tau sesiapa yg ada sakit(athiris) ni ceritalah sedikit pengalaman semasa sakit......makan ubat apa.....

thanks

Nak tanya  Athritis Reumatoid ni symtom nya macam mana?
Azura, boleh tak bagi tau dr. pakar tu kat mana?


First time arwenn sakit lutut masa form 5, teruk juga...sampai tak boleh berjalan. dalam sebulan lebih. nasib baik le lepas SPM. Lepas tu it comes on and off. tapi tak de la sampai tak boleh berjalan. cuma the pain is there.

Masa form 5 dulu, lepas x-ray dan blood test, dr pun tak tau apa punca sakit lutut arwenn ni.

Baru2 ni arwenn kena sakit lutut balik. sebab utama tak pasti.

Tapi ia berlaku selepas 1 bulan lebih arwenn dok exercise e.g walking/jogging.  

Sakit lutut sebelah kiri. Rasa sakit esp bila nak bend the knee e.g naik tangga, nak sujud dalam solat.

Lepas tu siap ada bunyi clicking, meletup2 gitu.. rasa macam orang tua..

Paling tak tahan pada air sejuk..rasa ngilu. so, kena mandi air panas. kadang2 tu rasa tak nak madi pun ada hehehe.

Baru ni arwenn tak pergi klinik pun coz selalunya dr akan kasik ubat tahan sakit dan gel (voltaren emulgel). Arwenn just sapu voltaren beli kat farmasi dan ambil minyak ikan+flaxseed oil.

Memang hari tu ingat nak cari dr. pakar...tapi kebelakangan ni dah tak rasa sakit dah...alhamdulillah.:pray:

Arwenn tak pasti apa yang arwenn alami ni termasuk dalam arthritis ke tak. tapi kalau baca kat web ia dikategorikan sebagai knee pain. knee pain among young adults....like me....

[ Last edited by arwenn on 28-7-2004 at 11:49 AM ]

Originally posted by arwenn at 28-7-2004 11:44 AM:
Nak tanya  Athritis Reumatoid ni symtom nya macam mana?
Azura, boleh tak bagi tau dr. pakar tu kat mana?


First time arwenn sakit lutut masa form 5, teruk juga...sampai tak boleh berjalan. da ...

Akum arween......yg zura tau sakit tu terlibat disemua sendi badan kita......paling sakit waktu pagi dan time sejuk2 bertambah sakit...lutut, sendi2 jari, tengkuk dan lain2 la.........zura mula2 sekali kena masa umur 17tahun gak..ingatkan sakit biasa jer......lpstu abis sekolah sakit kat tumit kaki dan buat rawatan kat klinik biasa.....lpstu tu ok skit...........ingat kan dah hilang rupanya bertambah teruk.

2 tiga tahun selepas tu sakit bertambah teruk melibatkan seluruh badan.........apalagi zura terus pegi hospital universiti........buat x-ray, ambik darah rupanya zura disahkan mengidap sakit Athritis Reumatoid......jiak tak buar rawatan mungkin jadi lumpuh...............
Skrg alhamdulilah dah ok skit sebab rawatan doktor pakar hospital universiti.........KL

nasihat zura.......jika arween alami lagi sakit tu lepasni terus je pegi hospital sebab rawatan dihospital lebih bagus dan selamat sebab kita boleh jumpa doktor pakar tentang sakit Athritis Reumatoid ......lagipun ubat2 diklinik sakitnya hilang sekejap je lepas tu tambah sakit.....................

Zura, thanks for your advice. Nanti arwenn akan pergi hospital.

Tiba2 sakit lutut datang balik.

effa

//Firstly, we must understand what is arthritis in order to manage & cope with the disease...




//Arthritis is a disease of the joints. Joints is the place where bones meet. A material called cartilage keeps the bones from rubbing each other during motion. Between the 2 pieces of cartilage in a joint, there is synovium which secrete fluid that help lubricate the joint.
//There are many types of arthritis actually. Osteoarthritis, post-traumatic arthritis, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis etc. Typically, arthritis leads to pain & restriction of movement of the involved joint.

//In Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA), the synovium is inflammed. There is usually also swelling, redness & tenderness in the joints. It is 3 times more common in women than in men, generally strikes between the ages of 20-50 yrs old but also can effect very young childre & older adults.
//RA often affets metacarpo-phalangeal joints (between palm of the hand & fingers), between the vertebrae of the spine, hips, knees & wrists.

RA is a chronic inflammation of the joints. It can cause joint pain, deformities and severe joint stiffness

[ Last edited by effa on 1-8-2004 at 03:16 PM ]

effa

//Symptoms
- early signs of RA include pain & swelling in the joints of the hands & feet. The disease affects both sides of the body at the same time.
- other symptom include aching & stiffness in the muscles & joints (especially after sleeping), loss of motion or strength in the affected joints & last but not least.. low-grade fever.

//Complications
-when the arthritis is VERY SEVERE, both bones in the joint may actually grow into each other, leading to FUSION of the joint.
-small lumps called rheumatoid nodules may form under the skin near at the  affected joint. The size may vary from pea to walnut size.
-in some cases, RA can cause inflammation in body parts other than joints such as tear glands, salivary glands and the lining of the heart & lungs.

effa

RA cannot be cured, but it can be managed through medications & self-care.

Exercise Regularly
- start a regular exercise program after checking with your doctor/physical therapist. Different type of RA require different exercises.

Manage Your Weight
- being overweight puts extra pressure on the joints. Exercise & eating a balanced and nutritious diet are important for weight control.

Apply Heat or Cold
- heat can ease pain by increasing the flow of blood. A hot shower/bath can help reduce arthritis pain. Cold treatment can also decrease the sensation of pain. Ice packs maybe recommended during flare-ups.

Do Not Over-Exert Your Joints
- maintain good posture, lifting with both hands & use large muscles to lift.

Positive Attitude
- in some people, the on-going pain can cause depression. It is important to keep a positive attitude and to learn how to relax & rest. If needed, doctor can prescribe anti-depression medication.

Medication
- anti-inflammatory medications such as ibuprofen & aspirin. it helps reduce pain & inflammation but there is side effects include damage to the stomach.
- steroids can also reduce inflammation & slow joint damage but also may have side effects.
- sometimes, medication used to treat cancer such as methotrexate ay be use to reduce inflammation.
** This should be taken as prescribed and should not be stopped abruptly without the recommendation of the doctor.

Physical Therapy
- to keep affected joints in adequte shape.

//The patient's willingness to participate in their own treatment and self-care plays a big role in controlling RA.

mbhcsf

okay nak mencelah sikit OKAY DAH CONFIRM KER DIAGNOSIS ?

sapa bagi? consultant Rheumatologist? doc pakar? sbb kalau doc biasa it is a bit hmm.. tapi kalau tangan you tu ada bentuk  mcm deviated " to the midline" then ...hmm.. okay

okay lah

no pantang - pantang tapi keep on seeing your doctor suruh dia buat regular check ups DAN JGN AMBIL UBAT THN SAKIT memandai mandai tau.. nanti i takut ..kalu Malaysian ni just beli ubat kat pharmacy dan  bukan depa tau apa yg depa buat kat themselves.. okay lah

gi doc pakat bebtul yg hospital g'ment i would suggest ..okay?
sbb ini i tak akan ambil RINGAN Okay???

take care...

i tak akan pandan enteng kalau RA tapi saya akan regular check up dgn SPECIALIST RHEUMALTOLOGIST..- ini kalau saya sbb saya tahu yg kesannya tak habis kat situ saja....
wassalam take care
bless you sister

thanks byk2 pada effa sebab byk bagi info tentang rhem. athiritis...........dan pada semua yg byk bg info2 yang berguna utk zura baca........

Originally posted by arwenn at 1-8-2004 02:22 PM:
Zura, thanks for your advice. Nanti arwenn akan pergi hospital.

Tiba2 sakit lutut datang balik.

sama2 arwenn...........jgn lupa terus pegi jumpa doktor di hospital utk pemeriksan adake awak kena Rhemutoid Athritis mcm saya......ok take care

Hornbill

salam semua saya nk tanya pasal sakit sendi atau atriatis .. ada sesiapa yg arif tentang atriatis ada ker cara cara nk meringankan beban penyakit nie... dan bagaimanakan cara nak mengubatinya...
saya amat amat berharap kepada anda semua

hai..
na bertanya, doc ckp "ta ada gris" eh ?? kena pd bahagian mana?? apa keputusan doc ??

Hornbill

kena bahagian buku lali lutut... selalu pagi pagi kerap kena... hari ini baru tahu sebab last week ada buat blood test

anti cite eh ape keputusan check up .. dan ape doc ckp..
tq..

mardhiah12

assalamu`alaikum

i'm still new in this forum. i was diagnosed with RA quite a few years back. i went to see a specialist and he prescribed me predniselone. usually it helps, even in small doses. currently, i'm on predniselone, MTX, arava and vioxx. Alhamdulillah, it helped me a lot

for your knee, you might need some kind of steroid injection if the pill doesn't work. usually the injection is only given in severe cases where your knee wobbled and hurts when you walk. i was given two injections, due to my severe condition and i was stopped taking arava due to the fact that i'm married and was expecting my first child.

bear in mind, the injection can only be done max twice a year. if that doesn't work, you might need to consider operation

wak_teknikal

Minta pendapat@panduan,

Mak aku kene sakit sendi awal bulan tahun ni, umur dia 50 thn, berat badan dalam lingkungan 60 kg, tidak tergolong dalam golongan obesiti,ada sejarah keluarga kene gout. Dia kena penyakit ni suspect gout gak, pastu bwk ke uia medical, inject antibiotik okey sket, dan bleh genggam tangan sket, tapi lutut sakit lagi, susah sgt nak jalan.

Sekarang ni masih sakit, tapi dia makan ubat aje. Kesian sangat tengok bila dia nak sembahyang, pegi bilik air. Aku try google jumpe la sedikit sumber. AKu suggest makan ikan tuna/mackeral yang tinggi omega-3 nya. Satu lagi makan daun herba misai kucing. Mak aku baru nak cuba.

So kepada doc yang ada disini, mintak pendapat, ape yang perlu dibuat?betul ke suggestion yang aku bagitau mak aku tu ok?dan suggestion dari doc sekalian camne nak mengatasi masalah ni, at least kurang2 boleh mengurangkan kesakitan, dan ape punca sebenarnya penyakit ni. terima kasih

aabu

Originally posted by wak_teknikal at 4-7-2006 17:07
Minta pendapat@panduan,

Mak aku kene sakit sendi awal bulan tahun ni, umur dia 50 thn, berat badan dalam lingkungan 60 kg, tidak tergolong dalam golongan obesiti,ada sejarah keluarga kene gout.AKu suggest makan ikan tuna/mackeral yang tinggi omega-3 nya. Satu lagi makan daun herba misai kucing. Mak aku baru nak cuba.
  ...

Ko suruh dia makan Tuna nanti lagi sakit gout  mak ko nanti... Kang tak bangun kang..Kalu setakat Omega -3, baik ko beli kat pamasi jer. Beli yang cap ayam pun takpe...Colestrol pun boleh reduce & lebih murah compare with tuna... Itu je la nasihat aku ...