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motif penyalahgunaan INDIE???

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Post time 14-4-2010 09:58 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
kenapa cikgu norman selalu jah ckp:

"sori daus, walaupun awak minat INDIE tapi this week kita bagi lagu boy band "

"kita akan bagi arrangement INDIE kepada lagu ni (benar-benar) "

padahal pada kefahaman aku, INDIE itu adalah satu konsep macamana artis tu dlm industri samada bernaung dlm syarikat atau independent singer. bukannya genre muzik ke hapa. even lagu dangdut pun leh masok konsep INDIE kalau album dangdut itu dibuat independently (record & publish sendirik!)
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 Author| Post time 14-4-2010 10:00 AM | Show all posts
fyi, sah2 statement norman tu merujuk kpd genre :re:
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Post time 14-4-2010 10:21 AM | Show all posts
kenapa cikgu norman selalu jah ckp:

"sori daus, walaupun awak minat INDIE tapi this week kita bagi lagu boy band "

"kita akan bagi arrangement INDIE kepada lagu ni (benar-benar) :laugh3 ...
af_mania Post at 14-4-2010 09:58


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Post time 14-4-2010 11:18 AM | Show all posts
sorry..i tak berapa faham indie mindie ni... uouls faham ker??? please xplain
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Post time 14-4-2010 01:37 PM | Show all posts
seperti yg dah dijelaskan kt atas tu la
ramai sbnarnya yg dh konfius ingatkan indie ni satu genre, padahal sama je ngan kalau nk dibandingkan dengan pemahaman mengenai filem indie.
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Post time 14-4-2010 04:30 PM | Show all posts
iols b4 af ni lagi dh heran org sebut muzik indie
since band indie ni mkin byk masuk dunia mainstream nih
padahal sah2 la indie tu bermaksud independent (cara dorg rakam lagu, buat album, promo, etc) :re:

Indie tu bkn genre muzik but cara management. mcm yg iols ckp td la, indie ni mksdnya independent, means sumenya org tu sendiri yg buat.
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Post time 14-4-2010 04:37 PM | Show all posts
indie is a genre
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Post time 14-4-2010 05:41 PM | Show all posts
cuba xplain skit uols yg tau

band2 indie tu....sbnrnyer genre apa deyols bwk??? rock??
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Post time 14-4-2010 09:39 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by gogo at 14-4-2010 21:42
cuba xplain skit uols yg tau

band2 indie tu....sbnrnyer genre apa deyols bwk??? rock??
PeminatSiti Post at 14-4-2010 17:41



x semestinya band indie kne bwk lagu rock. cuma org mesia (except for yg mmg btol2 minat n fhm konserp indie) dh salah anggap. since band indie yg masuk mainstream skrg byk bwk genre rock, punk rock. contoh mcm  estranged, hujan, bunkface, meet uncle hussein, love me butch, etc. so dorg ingt indie tu a genre yg more to rock. rock is a genre.

From Wiki :
A genre is a loose set of criteria for a category of composition; the term is often used to categorize literature and speech, but is also used for any other form of art or utterance. Genres are vague categories with no fixed boundaries

Genre tu jenis/kategori muzik. For example, rock, punk rock, metal, ballad, jazz, hiphop, country music, blues, reggae, rock and roll, ska, n byk lg. genre muzik ni terlalu byk to be listed. klo nk tau sume, sila gugel

Opposite to indie is MAINSTREAM.
From wiki :
It is a term most often applied in the arts (i.e., music, literature, and performance). This includes:
  • something that is available to the general public;
  • something that has ties to corporate or commercial entities.


Apa yg membezakan indie n mainstream ni :

|management|
Indie - x terikat dgn recording/management company, bergerak bebas
Mainstream - terikat dgn recording/management company

|lagu, album, promo, show|
Indie - sume kne buat n usaha sendiri
Mainstream - sume company yg uruskan

|Mass Media| <---majalah, paper, tv, radio
Indie - Tak (maksudnya dorg xdela kluar kt majalah ke paper ke tv or radio)
Mainstream - Yes

|Show|
Indie - Gig, private function
Mainstream - rancangan hiburan (kluar kt tv, radio, etc)

Yg tu secara general jerla. But skrg ni rasanya dh lbih kurg jer indie n mainstream. Indie skrg byk dh kluar majalah, kluar kt tv, radio.

So, klo korg nk kata INDIE tu genre rock, YUNA tu rock ke???

Btw, my fevret indie band is bau, couple n hijau
Couple pun skrg dh masuk mainstream
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Post time 14-4-2010 09:59 PM | Show all posts
lagu Benar Benar tukar arrangement? tapi rasanya arrangement lagu daus bawa tu sama ngan lagu Benar Benar yang asal nyanyian Rifa & Ejie..... sebenarnya aku prefer Rifa & Ejie banding Adam
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 Author| Post time 14-4-2010 10:03 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by gogo at 14-4-2010 21:42




x semestinya band indie kne bwk lagu rock. cuma org mesia (except for yg mmg btol2 minat n fhm konserp indie) dh salah anggap. since band indie yg ma ...
gogo Post at 14-4-2010 21:39

kalau iols mod sini i akan kasi credit for ur explanation pjg lebar.

musim ni mod agak mls nak kasi credit:re:
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Post time 15-4-2010 01:42 PM | Show all posts
kalau iols mod sini i akan kasi credit for ur explanation pjg lebar.

musim ni mod agak mls nak kasi credit:re:
af_mania Post at 14-4-2010 22:03


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Post time 15-4-2010 04:42 PM | Show all posts
10# toritonz82

lagu benar-benar Adam ni cover version ka? baru aku tau
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Post time 15-4-2010 05:04 PM | Show all posts
lagu Benar Benar tukar arrangement? tapi rasanya arrangement lagu daus bawa tu sama ngan lagu Benar Benar yang asal nyanyian Rifa & Ejie..... sebenarnya aku prefer Rifa & Ejie banding Adam
toritonz82 Post at 14-4-2010 21:59



2 orang pompuan bajet sore sedap yang sentap kat melodi dulu tu ke...
kononnye dorang bawak lagi best dari adam...
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Post time 15-4-2010 11:21 PM | Show all posts
kalau iols mod sini i akan kasi credit for ur explanation pjg lebar.

musim ni mod agak mls nak kasi credit:re:
af_mania Post at 14-4-2010 22:03


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Post time 15-4-2010 11:44 PM | Show all posts
lagu Benar Benar tukar arrangement? tapi rasanya arrangement lagu daus bawa tu sama ngan lagu Benar Benar yang asal nyanyian Rifa & Ejie..... sebenarnya aku prefer Rifa & Ejie banding Adam
toritonz82 Post at 14-4-2010 21:59


klo dgr based on yg kita tgk kt diari, yg dorg tunjuk beberapa saat jer daus prektis tuh&#160; x sama pun version daus n version rifa n ejie ni

cuba dgr balik



version rifa n ejie ni more to pop. version daus more to rock lbih kurg la.

tp apa pun, tgu la hari sabtu nnt ok. sbb yg kt diari, dorg tunjuk berapa saat jer daus prektis lagu tu. choyyy sgt khennn astro, budak prektis tunjuk brapa saat jer, part cintan cintun korek personal life org 90% dr diari tuh&#160;
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Post time 16-4-2010 08:19 PM | Show all posts
yang aku faham indie ni shortform dari independant ....makna nya artis solo or berkumpulan yang tidak bernaungdi bawah mana2 label..mereka bergerak sendiri..menerbit kan lagu sendiri dgn bajet sendiri...bukan genre muzik ka hapa... most indie band pulak lagu2 mereka kebanyakan nya alternative rock atau pun fusion jaa ...
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Post time 17-4-2010 09:29 AM | Show all posts
Indie rock is a genre of rock music that originated in the United Kingdom and the United States in the 1980s and earlier. The term is often used to describe the means of production and distribution of independent underground music, as well as the style of music that was first associated with this means of production.[1] Indie rock artists are known for placing a premium on maintaining complete control of their music and careers, releasing albums on independent record labels (sometimes self-owned and operated) and relying on touring, word-of-mouth, airplay on independent or college radio stations and, in recent years, the Internet for promotion. Musicians classified as indie rock are typically signed to independent record labels, rather than major record labels, although there are many examples of indie musicians switching to major labels mid-career. This practice blurs the lines between indie and mainstream music and is often the subject of debate amongst fans. Indeed, some bands that have spent most of their careers on major labels are still occasionally referred to by the press as indie rock because of their sound or aesthetic.

A variety of musical genres and subgenres with varying degrees of overlap are associated with indie rock. Some of these include lo-fi, sadcore, C86, math rock, shoegaze/dream pop, jangle pop, indie pop, noise rock, noise pop, riot grrrl, post-hardcore, twee pop, post-punk revival, garage rock revival, dance-punk, indie folk, baroque pop, chillwave, and indietronica.
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 Author| Post time 17-4-2010 04:24 PM | Show all posts
Indie rock is a genre of rock music that originated in the United Kingdom and the United States in t ...
caca_eric Post at 17-4-2010 09:29

nox, paham tak beza INDIE ROCK & INDIE sahaja??? :re:

indie rock itu sah2 la genre. kalau uols cari wikipedia apa itu INDIE DANGDUT harus cakap itu sbg genre gak. cuma peminat dangdut malas nak create kat wiki. oh ye,, sapa2 pon boleh jah add article dlm wikipedia tuh tak kira fakta or aota

masalah nya skrg cikgu norman selalu mention "INDIE".... takde plak ckp INDIE ROCK ke hapa kan.
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Post time 18-4-2010 11:46 PM | Show all posts
Reply 19# af_mania


    hihiiii.. nex time iol pesan kat cikgu norman.. kene sebut "indie rock" jgn sebut indie jah..
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