The assumptions we make, make us

my-alja

petikan dr article..

We have assumptions on how life works. But where did our assumptions come from? Well, we were indoctrinated as children, taught as students, and as adults continue to be influenced by society. The problems are, we usually don't stop to question our assumptions, fail to understand how false ones limit our enjoyment of life, and don't realize we have the power to change them at any time...

http://www.personal-development.com/chuck/presuppositions.htm

seribulan

kena keluar kepompong larr ni...memang sukar...

Agul

Which belief box do you want to get into...

redsinner

in order to be ready for everything...dont make assumptions esp about people

my-alja

me nak bawak perbincangan dlm pembentukkan minda anak2...tak kisahlah anak sendiri atau anak2 disekolah...

tak senang nak jadi sorang yg berfikiran positif jika sesorang dikelilingi oleh pengalaman hidup yg sebaliknya, dikelilingi oleh org2 yg sebaliknya.....secara tak sedar, input yg bersifat neutral sekalipun, dihadam oleh otak yg bersifat negatif...pasti negatiflah output nya...

pengalaman me hidup pun byk bergaul dan bertukar-tukar perspektif...tapi yg pasti, anak2 yg dijaga oleh ibubapa yg positif dapat membentuk minda anak2 yg positif.....mak/ayah begini ade kepahitan hidup tersendiri tapi cara dia menikmati hidup membuatkan org lain rasa kepositifannya...

jadi me rasa, nak elak anak2 terlalu negatif dgn diri sendiri....kita kena ajar cara berfikir dgn betul, tak mudah tapi ianya bersifat pelaburan jangka panjang.....sebagai permulaan, bagaimana andaian kita tentang org lain, andaian kita pada mak/ayah.....sebab apa2 pun andaian yg kita buat, ianya bersifat self-prophecy...

jadi cakap senang, me pun tak terkecuali dlm isu nie.....mak2 nie selalu fikir yg negatif sebab sayangkan anak tapi secara tak sedar mak nie jugak menanam sifat negatif dlm diri mereka.... , pada yg bernasib baik jika dapat pasangan yg sebaliknya....bayangkan kalo pasangan pun sama aje negatif fikiran dia.....kesian anak2...

SleepyFish

yes one should be aware of their self fullfilling prophecy . cause we are what we believe. kalau hari2 buat andaian yg org ingat kita "bodoh" when in fact we are not. However after much years of so called abuse we believe and in the end live it.

[ Last edited by  SleepyFish at 24-5-2007 09:37 AM ]

SleepyFish

I heard about this book long ago but never did took the time to read it till now. Its very thin yet filled with info. the summary of it is

the four agreements - don miguel ruiz

agreement 1

Be impeccable with your word - Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

agreement 2

Don抰 take anything personally - Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won抰 be the victim of needless suffering.

agreement 3

Don抰 make assumptions - Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

agreement 4

Always do your best - Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse and regret.

ajinomotonosuga

ikan di laut masin.. kelilingnya air masin tapi ikan  tu sedap di makan gak, tak masin cam ikan masin pun

ramai manusia depa berkawan dengan grup buat pekara tak elok macam isap dadah, berjudi, mengumpat tapi individu itu tetap maintain bagus, dia kawan gak tapi tidak terpengaruh

saya lagi suka nak kata ianya soal self belief, rather soal assumptions. Individu buat sesuatu out of belief. And this begins with thinking. If one thinks it is the right thing to do, so one will do it.

saya ramai kawan cam ni. depa ikut budak2 isap rokok, duk berkawan tapi depa tak isap rokok langsung. depa berkawan dengan budak2 main judi tapi depa tak main judi..duk tenguk saja or layan mende lain lai pekdah. Yang saya perhati depa ni tak suka nak condemn apa pun, langsung tak tegur, cuma sengih2 jek kalo kawan2 usik or ajak2 judi or merokok sama.

so i think, pengaruh luar still secondary, masih tetap pekara luaran, paling penting soal dalam diri, and i think it is about self belief, ada kata maybe self image. Kalo misal individu itu self image nya, yang dia salu kata pada diri dia, i am clean from all vices maybe kalo dia kawan dengan samseng pun dia tetap dia, clean dari aktiviti samseng.

there is no truth actually in this life , except the truth one hold in one MIND (faith, belief). So truth is relative. In fact apa  pun dalam hidup ni adalah RELATED to at least something else. Saya sebut penggantungan.

i think maybe ramai keliru, tendency to assume itu lebih pada personal view or opiniated by the individual itu saja. It is not an assumption but personal view. But we need this assumption, in order to predict or make a future plan and most importantly to find temporary solution. Contoh nya 'what if' analysis perlukan kita assume certain matters are fixed. We tend to categorize it as truth when it fit the 'context' , related to the examined matter, contemporarily, if it is accepted by many so it is 'considered' true. The view or the opinion or the assumption is 'true' until proved otherwise.

wei_loon5063

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 29-5-2007 07:23 PM
ikan di laut masin.. kelilingnya air masin tapi ikan  tu sedap di makan gak, tak masin cam ikan masin pun
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Yala..... kerana ajinomoto kita assume makanan........

makanan tak ada rasa.. tambah ajinomoto.. jadi sedap pula.....

blastoff

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 29-5-2007 07:23 PM
ikan di laut masin.. kelilingnya air masin tapi ikan  tu sedap di makan gak, tak masin cam ikan masin pun  

Ikan laut ketika dia masih hidup walaupun dia dikelilingi oleh air laut yang masin pun badan dia masih boleh remain neutral . Hanya setelah dia mati saja badan dia dapat dipengaruhi oleh persekitarannya .
Maka manusia yang dapat dipengaruhi oleh persekitarannya yang tak baik ialah manusia yang mati jiwanyalah.. baguih metapora hang ni nooo, logik gak .

[ Last edited by  blastoff at 31-5-2007 09:48 AM ]

my-alja

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 29-5-2007 07:23 PM
ikan di laut masin.. kelilingnya air masin tapi ikan  tu sedap di makan gak, tak masin cam ikan masin pun

ramai manusia depa berkawan dengan grup buat pekara tak elok macam isap dadah, berju ...

make sense pak aji...cemana dgn nasihat2 ulamak kita yg suruh kita berkawan dgn org yg berniaga minyak wangi supaya kita terpalit dgn baunya...

analogi pak aji tentang ikan tu menarik tapi apa pendekatan nak ajar anak2 tentang ilmu self believe....pak aji dah tua, dah puas makan ajinamoto...

pak aji takleh setakat nak cakap, takyah rasa ajinamoto sebab tak sedap....mereka nak rasa, biat mereka sendiri yg kata sedap atau tidak....jadi bagaimana nak ajar anak yg umpama ikan nie, teguk dulu air masin dan dia putuskan nak telan atau tidak?

my-alja

Originally posted by blastoff at 31-5-2007 09:47 AM


Ikan laut ketika dia masih hidup walaupun dia dikelilingi oleh air laut yang masin pun badan dia masih boleh remain neutral . Hanya setelah dia mati saja badan dia dapat dipengaruhi oleh pers ...

apa yg dikatakan persekitaran yg baik atau tidak...bukankah baik atau tidak tu berdasarkan andian yg kita buat?

my-alja

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 29-5-2007 07:55 PM



Yala..... kerana ajinomoto kita assume makanan........

makanan tak ada rasa.. tambah ajinomoto.. jadi sedap pula.....

nie pun btol.....setiap kali makanan tak sedap, mesti tambah ajinamoto..sebab dlm otak nie dah ada assumption....bila tambah, MESTI SODAPPP

my-alja

Originally posted by SleepyFish at 24-5-2007 09:33 AM
yes one should be aware of their self fullfilling prophecy . cause we are what we believe. kalau hari2 buat andaian yg org ingat kita "bodoh" when in fact we are not. However after much ...

susah nak ajar concept nie dgn sistem pembelajaran disini.....sesapa tak pandai dlm logik thinking, kureng cerdik......siannn

blastoff

Originally posted by my-alja at 31-5-2007 11:48 AM


nie pun btol.....setiap kali makanan tak sedap, mesti tambah ajinamoto..sebab dlm otak nie dah ada assumption....bila tambah, MESTI SODAPPP

Deria rasa sedap ke idak makanan ni kat otak atau kat lidah ? Hang ni biaq betoi .. cuba lidah hang kebaih tengok atau lidah orang baru baik demam tu errrr payau ? ... lupa pi dah aku pun ...    so boleh rasa ke idak apa yang hang makan waktu tu ?...aku rasa hang tambah 14 tan pak aji naik moto pun hang takkan rasa apa punya  ...  

[ Last edited by  blastoff at 31-5-2007 12:09 PM ]

my-alja

Originally posted by blastoff at 31-5-2007 12:03 PM


Deria rasa sedap ke idak makanan ni kat otak atau kat lidah ? Hang ni biaq betoi .. cuba lidah hang kebaih tengok atau lidah orang baru baik demam tu errrr payau ? ... lupa pi dah aku ...

btoi gak hang punnn ...lidah tu pra-syarat utk rasa, otak tu yg nak mentafsirkan rasa...

tu sebabnya pakar2 surgeon akan nasihatkan pesakit dia pi buat rawatan psikology selepas rawatan fizikal....kalo otak kata OK, benda busuk cam belacan pun SODAPPPPPP.....