If 揾onesty is the best policy

lealaurielle · Post time 13-7-2008 03:41 AM

Santeira · Post time 13-7-2008 03:53 AM

Not all things should be revealed in the name of honesty. Ada perkara2 yang tak boleh diberitahu truth, more untuk melindungi perasaan-perasaan yang terlibat, sama ada perasaan sendiri atau perasaan orang lain. Dalam sesetengah perkara, honesty is the best policy, dalam sesetengah perkara lain, secrecy adalah lebih bagus.

naz_bella · Post time 13-7-2008 04:09 AM

why do ppl lie?

~it depends to the situation their in

~it depends to the individual - whether they are the type who carry the guilt 4 d rest of their life for lying, or they can just lie and lie and live happily

~ it depends to their surrounding ppl - if a person surrounding u cant accept truth, then u end up lying just 4 them

many2 more reasons...

but one thing we end up sayin MOST of the time: " I should hv just told the truth"

:victory:

ussopp · Post time 13-7-2008 07:14 AM

i dont believe theres a good lie....never...there are no such thing....

you can shut up if you dont want to tell anything....but you can never lie....

if people can lie easily without feeling guilty, then it is a lacking of quality.....go to hell with american way of dealing problem, they say lie can increase self esteem among children, what a coward way of life they have there....

im sick of watching american tv series which always promotes lies and giving fabricated reasons....which represent a corrupt life....such of stealing, backstabbing,
husband-wife cheating deceit each other, 'rasuah" etc.....

lie is the basic instict in any evil act...while honesty is the basic instict of any good deeds.

lying is just a coward way in delaying something that will reveal....

I believe lying will kotorkan hati....

theres also saying that says dont apologize, it just shows our weaknesss.....what a coward way of living....which is a lie basic way of life....

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tom5190 · Post time 13-7-2008 07:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by lealaurielle at 13-7-2008 03:41 AM

If 揾onesty is the best policy

ussopp · Post time 13-7-2008 08:02 AM

agree....

money can buy any policy....but it doesnt mean money is the most powerful thing in the world....
i

I have just a plastic bag to teach me about what is the strongest thing in the world....its just an ordinary wrinkle and crease plastic bag, but its written.....

"TRUTH and LOVE are the most powerful thing in the world.."

the sentence may be better, I forgot already.

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lealaurielle · Post time 13-7-2008 02:24 PM

good respond... Akak suker! *cepat! pose pose tepok2 tangan! hhehehe

ajinomotonosuga · Post time 13-7-2008 02:29 PM

Originally posted by ussopp at 13-7-2008 08:02 AM
agree....

money can buy any policy....but it doesnt mean money is the most powerful thing in the world....
i

I have just a plastic bag to teach me about what is the strongest thing in the ...

truth , love and beauty

u better Jiddhu Krishnamurthi skit..good for the brain

google nama tuh

lealaurielle · Post time 13-7-2008 03:03 PM

kalau i ols malas nak google and just straight tanye who is Jiddhu Krishnamurthi, boley get the jawapan dari u ols tak? kekek

ussopp · Post time 14-7-2008 06:35 AM

thanks

i have googled...wonderful piece of mind...i enjoy reading the way hes thinking....

hmmm....

but some how he has a statement your god is not god....

then it must be broken somewhere....

i just can enjoy certain2 only.

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ussopp · Post time 15-7-2008 12:33 AM

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 13-7-2008 02:29 PM

truth , love and beauty

u better Jiddhu Krishnamurthi skit..good for the brain

google nama tuh

hmmm... i found somethin funny....

the teacher jiddu krishnamurti stated that education cannot be organized by religion or something like that...(correct me if I misinterpret)....
he said truth is pathless.....cannot be organized.

but he himself actually is organizing certain2 way of thinking....teaching it and accidentally organizing it.....

hes against his own idea.....

i think theres a limit of this quantum theory way of thinking......

maybe unnecessary truth is not important and its okay if it cant be determined......but the basic and most important truth that govern all universe should be 'determined-able' and must be determined.....

like einstein said, God does not play dice.

am I talking nonsense?

lealaurielle · Post time 15-7-2008 03:32 AM

I somehow feels i ols shoulds googles this jiddhu person also, kans? Hehehehe

Agul · Post time 15-7-2008 11:04 PM

Originally posted by ussopp at 15-7-2008 12:33 AM

i think theres a limit of this quantum theory way of thinking......

what do you mean by quantum theory of thinking?

Einstein waqs claime to have said "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
I think he really means it, when he say this.

ussopp · Post time 16-7-2008 01:04 PM

actually what i mean is this kind of thinking----> alah. ko berusaha banyak2 bukan ko berjaya pun...

alah, berusaha tak semestinya berjaya....

belajar tak smestinya pandai....

a kind of thinking which against cause and effect principle...

if im wrong , correct me.....i may have confuse myself also.

Agul · Post time 16-7-2008 07:32 PM

but quantum is cause and effect too, right?

An action in someplace will cause reaction in another place?

ussopp · Post time 17-7-2008 06:50 AM

yup2....

maybe i should say its about the uncertainty in the theory...

blackmore · Post time 20-7-2008 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by lealaurielle at 13-7-2008 03:41

If 揾onesty is the best policy

Agul · Post time 20-7-2008 09:32 AM

Originally posted by blackmore at 20-7-2008 02:05 AM
...dulu2 time sekolah rendah...memang aku slalu diterapkan ngan prinsip nie...sampaikan kena buat composition tuk menunjukkan yang aku faham apa maksud honesty is the best policy....but...as i ge ...

Well actually, your boss hairstyle at that time is great. Te problem is, your perception, and everyone else perception is in error.
So, you should tell your boss, wow, what a great hairstyle! and ask her where she did that so that you can have one too.

Maybe in the next 300 year everyone will have the same hairstyle....

The 70's are not that far off...

sofiajane · Post time 20-7-2008 10:03 PM

ada setengah2 perkara tu mak.,kalau kita cakap terus-terang or direct,org cop mulut laser lak...tak pun org tegur "oi,mulut tu x de insuran kew?!" ...tak gitu mak..?

ussopp · Post time 21-7-2008 07:49 AM

hallo...
i have other opinion....

biasanya orang akan guna alasan jaga hati untuk membenarkan pembohongan....

sebenarnya tidak boleh tipu walau apa alsan pun....

dalam situasi bos anda tu, apa kata guna kaedah psikology sopan yg biasa kita guna kalau nak tegur orang....iaitu first sekali , appreciate apa usaha dia dulu....beritahu betapa kita menghargai usaha dia buat rambut dia......

kemudian bagitau la apa kurangnya stail dia tu.....bukankah itu jauh lebih elok dari berbohong secara mutlak lantas membiarkan dia dalam keadaan buruk tu dengan memberitahu stail tu elok semata2 nak jaga hati...

mana lebih kejam jikalau kita mengetahui?
tipu sebab jaga hati, atau beritahu perkara sebenar sambil jaga hati...

kalo rasa nak jaga hati sangat boleh saja mengelak, atau diam, tetapi janganlah didik diri supaya menipu....

sebenarnya, ada perkara yang kita boleh buat pilihan tanpa melakukan kesalahan, tetapi, memang ada setengah perkara yg kita tak ada pilihan melainkan betul dan salah...

bayangkan lah kerana situasi yg anda pilih bersama bos anda tu utk dijadikan contoh, maka ia menjadikan bohong nampak baik dan jujur nampak tak tepat, maka dijadikan alasan utk diamalkan pada perkara2 lain pula....

pastu mulalah seorang anak dengan pemikiran sama dgn anda berbohong pada ibunya; alasan tak mau mak risau, nanti mak sakit.
padahal kesalahannya di luar berleluasa...

atau suami bohong pada isteri; alasan nak jaga hati; kesian kat isteri....tapi pasang 2....

isteri bohong pada suami, alasan; sayang sangat kat suami....
padahal curang di belakang....

saya still believe, bohong adalah basic instict utk perkara2 jahat....dan begitulah sebaliknya.

satu lagi, ada satu lagi bahaya dalam satu konteks yg lain iaitu akan menyemarakkan satu pemikiran lain iaitu pemikiran niat mengahalalkan cara.....
ini lebih dahsyat kerana mempergunakan perasaan manusia utk judge baik buruk, lantas menimbulkan kekeliruan...
antara contoh yg pernah dicapai oleh jenis pemikiran macam nie ialah, boleh melacur demi menyara anak2; alasan ;kesian kat anak.

nauzubillah.......

perkara2 begini akan terjadi bila common sense mengenai baik buruk diabaikan kerana judge ikut perasaan...