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Sejarah Bangsa Mongol

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Post time 9-5-2006 12:15 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Ada yang punya informasi sejarah kekuasaan bangsa Mongol mulai dari Genghis Khan sampe Kublai Lhan juga wilayah kekuasaan dan  pengaruh dari kekuasaan Bangsa Mongol terhadap wilayah pendudukkannya

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Post time 13-5-2006 01:31 PM | Show all posts
rasanyer topik ni da dibincangkan
ermm .. try ler selak2 kat page belakang ...
kalau xde ... maybe da hilang .. sebb x digest ...
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Post time 14-5-2006 12:00 AM | Show all posts
Yalah dulu ada. Hami ingat dah hilang bila dimergekan dulu. Sayang sekali.
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Post time 14-5-2006 12:57 AM | Show all posts
kalau x salah ada cite pasal
bangsa mongol nie nak jajah negara Hungary
tp x dpt sebb ketua diorg kene bunuh pd mlm perkawinan diorg
ada yg ngatakan sume nie sabotaj ....
ntah ler tul ke idak .. sebb sume cite tanpa bukti yg kukuh
kalau rajin ... leh check kat wikipedia ....
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 Author| Post time 15-5-2006 10:11 AM | Show all posts
bisa cari linknya lagi nggak ya
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Post time 15-5-2006 10:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by fly_in_d_sky at 14-5-2006 12:57 AM
kalau x salah ada cite pasal
bangsa mongol nie nak jajah negara Hungary
tp x dpt sebb ketua diorg kene bunuh pd mlm perkawinan diorg
ada yg ngatakan sume nie sabotaj ....
ntah ler tul ke idak ...


tu bukan bangsa mongol tu tetapi Bangsa Hun di china dikenali sebagai Xia

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Post time 15-5-2006 11:07 AM | Show all posts
monggol empire ... i admire them a lot ... an empire that bulit by war but ruled by law ... huhu ~
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Post time 23-5-2006 11:48 AM | Show all posts
empire yg kuat tp bodoh.....akal hanya taruk kat pedang...
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Post time 23-5-2006 02:49 PM | Show all posts
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
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Post time 24-5-2006 12:52 AM | Show all posts
no comment tp yg pasti mase pemerintahan kublai khan rakyat china idup senang....x mcm akhir zmn pemerintahan dinasti song....
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Post time 24-5-2006 11:40 AM | Show all posts
Pada Hami, sudah tentu bukan calang2 orang/kaum yang dapat mengembangkan empayer ke merata rantau Asia dan Eropah pada masa itu. Mereka juga ada sampai ke Indonesia buat seketika.  Dari satu sudut sudah tentu mereka dipandang ganas. Tetapi adakah lain2 empayer seperti Rom atau juga kumpulan Knights Templars di Timur Dekat tidak ganas?

Benar, ramai yang gentar akan mereka. Legenda Jerman mengataka mereka adalah satu kaum Bani  Israel yang hilang ......jadi ini telah memberi sebab kepada mereka membunuh orang2 Yahudi diperbatasan dengan tuduhan menyeludup senjata. Orang2 Hungary pula memanggil mereka "dog-faced Tartars". Seorang paderi Pranchis ada memberi diskripsi bagaimana rakusnya soldadu2  Mongol dan putera2 "dog-headed" mereka. Pihak gereja juga tidak ketinggalan . Mereka mengaitkan Mongol dengan Mogogoli, anak kepada Magog. Cina pula telah lama membina tembok besar untuk mengawal  jajahan mereka dari orang2 "barbarian".

Asal usul Mongol adalah satu kaum yang amat rendah (humble). Apabila dibandingkan dengan pencapaian mereka, kita boleh merasakan betapa mustahilnya itu semua! Oleh itu ada banyak yang boleh dipelajari dari pembangunan mereka sebagai satu negara(nation) yang pada suatu masa itu meluas sehingga 1/3 dunia yang diketahui manusia.

Kalau ada masa, Hami akan cuba ceritakan sedikit tentang mereka dari perspektif Hamilah.............

[ Last edited by  hamizao at 24-5-2006 11:43 AM ]

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Post time 24-5-2006 12:25 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 hamizao's post

yang pasti satu masa dulu mereka dah berjaya menakluki hampir seluruh asia dan hingga ke eropah

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Post time 24-5-2006 12:44 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ShadowChaser at 24-5-2006 12:25 PM
yang pasti satu masa dulu mereka dah berjaya menakluki hampir seluruh asia dan hingga ke eropah


Mengikut cerita novel 'Poland ' oleh James Michener mongol sampai ke dataran Poland dan menewaskan kerajaan Poland waktu itu. Berlakulah pembunuhan beramai2 dan kaum wanita dirogol. Jadi tak hairanlah orang2 Poland ni ada perwaktakan oriental.:hmm::hmm:

[ Last edited by  thamrong at 24-5-2006 11:53 PM ]

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Post time 24-5-2006 02:01 PM | Show all posts
nak takluk...........tp alhamdullilah.....Islam berkembang tanpa ingin kan perperangan..dan adil .
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Post time 24-5-2006 07:50 PM | Show all posts
tapi korang kener ingat yg baghdad penah di hancurkan oleh tentere mongol nih.semuar salah si gabenor islam kat samarkhand tuh.saper suruh bunuh konvoi perdagangan yg gengis khan antor.kan satu negare hancur di buat nyer.

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Post time 24-5-2006 08:16 PM | Show all posts
Pada penghujung kurun ke-12, Mongol adalah  satu puak normad diantara beberapa puak yang diam di dataran tinggi di tengah2 Asia Tengah. Dataran ini dilindungi oleh banjaran2 gunung2 seperti Altai dan Tien Shan di sebetah barat, hutan2 sejuk Siberia di sebelah utara, Gurun Gobi di sebelah selatan dan Pergunungan khinghan di sebelah timur dari serangan2 luar buat berkurun2.

Akan tetapi geografi gurun tinggi itu menyebabkan penghidupan yang  sentiasa berpindah2 untuk mencari cuaca dan keadaan yang lebih sesuai. Kekadang mereka juga bertembong dengan puak2 normad yang lain. Iklim amat ekstrim

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Post time 25-5-2006 12:11 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by thamrong at 24-5-2006 12:44 PM


Mengikut cerita novel 'Poland ' oleh James Michener mongol sampai ke dataran Poland dan menewaskan kerajaan Poland waktu itu. Berlakulah pembunuhan beramai2 dan kaum wanita dirogol. Jadi tak ha ...



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Post time 25-5-2006 03:10 AM | Show all posts
Genghis Khan (c. 1162[1]朅ugust 18, 1227)  (also spelled as Chengez Khan in Turkic ,Chinggis Khan, Jenghis Khan, Chinggis Qan, etc.)was the founder of the Mongol Empire (1206

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Post time 25-5-2006 03:14 AM | Show all posts
Family
Main article: Family tree of Genghis Khan
Genghis was related through his father to Qabul Khan, Ambaghai and Qutula Khan who had headed the Mongol confederation under Jin Dynasty patronage [citation needed] until the Jin switched support to the Tatars in 1161 and destroyed Qutula Khan. Genghis' father, Yesugei, khan of the Borjigin, and nephew to Ambaghai and Qutula Khan, emerged as the head of the ruling clan of the Mongols, but this position was contested by the rival Tayichi抲d clan, who descended directly from Ambaghai. When the Tatars, in turn, grew too powerful after 1161, the Jin moved their support from the Tatars to the Kerait.

Tem黬in had three brothers, Imaad (or Qasar), Khajiun, and Tem黦e, and one sister, Tem黮en (or Temulin), as well as two half-brothers, Bekhter and Belgutei.

Genghis Khan's empress and first wife Borte bore him four legitimate sons, Jochi (1185

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Post time 25-5-2006 03:14 AM | Show all posts
Childhood
Based on legends and later writers, Tem黬in's early life was difficult. His father delivered him to his future wife's family when he was only nine. He was supposed to live there until he reached the marriageable age of 12. Shortly thereafter, his father was poisoned by the neighboring Tatars while returning home. This gave Tem黬in a claim to be the clan's chief, though his clan refused to be led by a boy and soon abandoned him and his family.

For the next few years, he and his family lived the life of impoverished nomads, surviving primarily on wild fruits, marmots and other small game. In one incident, Tem黬in murdered his half-brother Bekhter over a dispute about sharing hunting spoils. Despite being severely reproached by his mother he never expressed any remorse over the killing. In another incident in 1182, he was captured in a raid by his former tribe, the Ta'yichiut, and held captive. The Ta'yichiut planned on executing Tem黬in, but he escaped with help from a sympathetic captor, the father of Chilaun, a future general of Genghis Khan. His mother, Hoelun, taught him many lessons in survival in the harsh landscape and even grimmer political climate of Mongolia, especially the need for alliances with others, a lesson which would shape his understanding in his later years. Jelme and Borchu, two of Genghis Khan's future generals, joined him around this time. Along with his brothers, they provided the manpower needed for early expansion and diplomacy for Tem黬in.

Tem黬in married Börte of the Konkirat tribe around the age of 16, being betrothed as children by their parents as a customary way to forge a tribal alliance. She was later kidnapped in a raid by the Merkit tribe, and Tem黬in rescued her with the help of his friend and future rival, Jamuka, and his protector, Wang Khan of the Kerait tribe. She remained his true love and only empress, although he followed tradition by taking several morganatic concubines. Börte's first child, Jochi, was born roughly nine months after she was freed from the Merkit, leading to questions about the child's paternity - although Genghis fiercely contended that Jochi was his son.

Tem黬in became blood brother (anda) with Jamuka and thus the two made a vow to be faithful to each other for eternity

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