Why Christians bitch about Islam when there is a gangbang in Ezekiel 23?

MENJ

Debmey

Did God in the Bible endorse rape like Quran and hadiths endorse rape and paedophilia by muslims?

Oreng

The story for what if not an endorsement ?

Debmey

No sir, the Bible presents sins of people. Is every sin presented in the Quran endorsed by allah?

Oreng

1. aha, the bible like to present the people making sin.

2. ... while actually there is no sin because sin is all the time already washed by your cross. So, the presentation of those 'sin' is actually no sin. You forget the principle of your own faith ?

3. Where is the punishment for those sin ? Can you do sinful act without god punishing you ? If it is no punishment, then the presentation mean to encourage the sinful acts. Paul was so clever that he induce you indirectly to do sinful things.

4. If indeed the presentation is merely a presentation, then you mention of 'sin' means nothing.


FYI, in the Quran, if there is a mention of sin, Allah followed immidiately with punishment. Satisfied ? Logical, isn't ?

[ Last edited by  Oreng at 29-8-2006 04:02 PM ]

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 29-8-2006 02:35 PM
No sir, the Bible presents sins of people.  

By allowing a gangbang?

- MENJ

Originally posted by MENJ at 29-8-2006 04:08 PM


By allowing a gangbang?

- MENJ

why such writings in the bibles? is it becos its done by humans?

13Friday

23:30 I will do these [things] unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen, [and] because thou art polluted with their idols.

23:31 Thou hast walked in the way of thy sister; therefore will I give her cup into thine hand.

23:32 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou shalt drink of thy sister's cup deep and large: thou shalt be laughed to scorn and had in derision; it containeth much.

23:33 Thou shalt be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, with the cup of astonishment and desolation, with the cup of thy sister Samaria.

23:34 Thou shalt even drink it and suck [it] out, and thou shalt break the sherds thereof, and pluck off thine own breasts: for I have spoken [it], saith the Lord GOD.

23:35 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast forgotten me, and cast me behind thy back, therefore bear thou also thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.

23:36 The LORD said moreover unto me; Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? yea, declare unto them their abominations;

23:37 That they have committed adultery, and blood [is] in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through [the fire], to devour [them].

23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.

23:39 For when they had slain their children to their idols, then they came the same day into my sanctuary to profane it; and, lo, thus have they done in the midst of mine house.

23:40 And furthermore, that ye have sent for men to come from far, unto whom a messenger [was] sent; and, lo, they came: for whom thou didst wash thyself, paintedst thy eyes, and deckedst thyself with ornaments,

23:41 And satest upon a stately bed, and a table prepared before it, whereupon thou hast set mine incense and mine oil.

23:42 And a voice of a multitude being at ease [was] with her: and with the men of the common sort [were] brought Sabeans from the wilderness, which put bracelets upon their hands, and beautiful crowns upon their heads.

23:43 Then said I unto [her that was] old in adulteries, Will they now commit whoredoms with her, and she [with them]?

23:44 Yet they went in unto her, as they go in unto a woman that playeth the harlot: so went they in unto Aholah and unto Aholibah, the lewd women.

23:45 And the righteous men, they shall judge them after the manner of adulteresses, and after the manner of women that shed blood; because they [are] adulteresses, and blood [is] in their hands.

23:46 For thus saith the Lord GOD; I will bring up a company upon them, and will give them to be removed and spoiled.

23:47 And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch them with their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn up their houses with fire.

23:48 Thus will I cause lewdness to cease out of the land, that all women may be taught not to do after your lewdness.

23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye shall bear the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.

nightlord

And MENJ i think you should start wearing glasses.

Maybe contacts might make you look better.

Have you not heard of stories being told.

AND THIS STORY WAS BEING TOLD BY GOD TO EZEKIEL in refering to the cities of Samaria and Jerusalem ie the sisters.

READ YOUR OWN POSTING BEFORE MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF.

IT IS NOT ABOUT REAL PEOPLE.

Know the word parable?

[ Last edited by  nightlord at 30-8-2006 12:00 AM ]

MENJ

Originally posted by 13Friday at 29-8-2006 06:55 PM
23:30 I will do these  unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen,  because thou art polluted with their idols.

23:31 Thou hast walked in the way of thy sister; therefore wi ...

Yeah, just a continuation of the gangbang story. Oh yeah, maybe I didn't scan it because there was no point continuing the gangbang saga?

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by nightlord at 29-8-2006 11:59 PM
And MENJ i think you should start wearing glasses.

I do wear glasses, dickhead.

And the story of a gangbang by men of Assyria on two Egyptian whores doesn't strike me as anything that God would ever relate.

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by nightlord at 29-8-2006 11:59 PM
READ YOUR OWN POSTING BEFORE MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF.

IT IS NOT ABOUT REAL PEOPLE.

Know the word parable?

Oh its very much literal. Oholah and Oholibah sounds like a parable to you? Assuming that it is indeed a "parable", I really see no reason why there should be a GANGBANG being described in such lurid detail in the first place.

- MENJ

Samuel 11:2-4  "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?'  Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home."  

Whats the moral of this story, can any christians explain ?

MENJ

Votes are piling up. LOL.

- MENJ

MENJ

Oh yeah....

- MENJ

pirate.pete

stupid poll this is. look at the choices. this guy menj must have serious self-boosting-ego issue. :lol

nightlord

His only issue is like most muslims, they laugh at the Torah which their beloved Muhammad use as a reference book.

And then they say Muhammad is referred in it somewhere.

No sense at all.

nightlord

And look at the heading of the post :

SAMARIA AND JERUSALEM ARE LIKE TWO IMPURE SISTERS.

Maybe MENJ doesnt understand the headline or he is just turned on by the story...........you never know sexual represssion can sometimes blow up in his face.

MENJ

Originally posted by nightlord at 31-8-2006 12:08 AM
And look at the heading of the post :

SAMARIA AND JERUSALEM ARE LIKE TWO IMPURE SISTERS.

Maybe MENJ doesnt understand the headline or he is just turned on by the story...........you never kno ...

"Samaria and Jerusalem" have "emissions like asses and donkeys" pumped into them? ROTFL.  And even if it is an analogy, so what? The fact remains that it is a disgusting story. It would be interesting if this were to be read aloud in Sunday class in front of children.

- MENJ

nightlord

Well taking things out of context seem to be your specialty.

And didnt your prophet ask you to refer to the people of the book if you are lost?