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Untold History : "Iskandar" Puteri Karut dan Scottish Mabuk

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Post time 1-12-2011 12:01 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Post Last Edit by unekspekted_XII at 1-12-2011 12:22

pade aku laa.. this is the biggest fabrication in modern history.

TANJUNG PUTERI

Earliest record were etched in Sejarah Melayu name asal Johor Bahru were "Tanjung Puteri" to marked the beauty of Puteri Mayang Selida.



It end there.. takde lagi mane2 reference yg menunjukkan name lain sehinggalah tahun 1886..


MEMORYLANE

Temenggung Ibrahim membuka "Tanjung Puteri" and HH Albert Baker yg menamekan semula "Tanjung Puteri" sebagai "Johor Bahru" in 1866.




Bandar "Tanjung Puteri" asal merupakan Bukit Kastam, yang berbentuk tanjung... coastal line were much outer sebelum reclamation works di kawasan Kastam dan Tambak Johor... thus the name 'tanjung' were derived.


FABRICATION

Bile gomen mewujudkan "IDR" in 20th century... name "Iskandar" pun muncul out of sudden.

TAKDE DALAM SEBARANG RECORD = even sebelum R.O Winstedt or anything from dari zaman dulukale 1600's sampai kezaman moden tahun 2000... wujud name "Iskandar Puteri" di Johor Bahru... korang bleh check

The name were fabricated sebab ingin bodek Sultan Iskandar Mahmud... but he know better... sebab tu dia suruh ganti name jadi Bandar Rahman Andak... sudah kantul... dibelit pulak yg name tu MEMANG DAN WUJUD sejak zaman dulu.

Since then...... ramai yang angguk2 yang name "Iskandar Puteri" were the ancient name for Johor Bahru

ORIGINAL 'ISKANDAR' PUTERI

Only in 1860's... then only wujud satu tempat bername "Iskandar" di tanjung Puteri... TAPI.... tempat ni dimiliki sorang Scottish... bukan orang Melayu.

Rumah rasmi kediaman Dato' James Alexander Meldrum merupakan istana besar yang terletak di atas ancient bukit Tanjung PUteri yang asal = yang sekarang terletak hotel Grand Bluewave.



Rumah tersebut dinamekan "ISKANDER HALL".. remarkable palace on commanding summit, built sometimes in 1860's.

There were few record keratan dari english newspaper memangil rumah Dato' Meldrum sebagai "Iskander Hall".. bukan "Alexander Hall".





I began to believed, sejak itu.. "Iskandar" sebagai name rasmi sebuah tempat telah pun mendapat iktiraf oleh bangsa2 asing dan digunapakai sebagai name tempat.

NOw... bile aku dah tua.. and anak cucu aku tanye nanti "Taikorr... sape yg bukak Iskandar Development Region???".. aku akan jawab... "Drunken Scottish!!!!!"

Hahaahahahahaaaaa

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 Author| Post time 1-12-2011 12:03 PM | Show all posts
siyut punye katak!
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Post time 1-12-2011 12:14 PM | Show all posts
katak ape pulok ko nih. aku tgk molek ade je kuar gambar tu
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Post time 1-12-2011 12:47 PM | Show all posts
gamba ok, tak kluar katak pun.     
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Post time 1-12-2011 12:50 PM | Show all posts
Skotis Mabuk
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Post time 1-12-2011 12:51 PM | Show all posts
katak...mana katak...
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Post time 1-12-2011 01:35 PM | Show all posts
IDR tu memang nampak le gaya nak bodek almarhum Sultan...tapi siapa pulak yang kata nama 'Iskandar Puteri' tu nama lama JB?
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Post time 1-12-2011 01:43 PM | Show all posts
unek maksudkan ex pm kot yg kata camtu.tp ni baru pestime aku dgr 'Iskandar Puteri' tu
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 Author| Post time 1-12-2011 02:43 PM | Show all posts
IDR tu memang nampak le gaya nak bodek almarhum Sultan...tapi siapa pulak yang kata nama 'Iskandar P ...
alphawolf Post at 1-12-2011 13:35


Lerr.. ko tak tau lagi ker????



Even... dlm buku tok guru aku.. Dr LIm Phui Huen printed in 2009 pun menceritekan bende2 mcm  ni = but not in ancient account.



So... bile aku trace balik dari mane dia dapat cerite karut ni.. aku jumpe satu tempat.. = Persada Johor.. kat lukisan besar kisah pembukaan Johor Bahru yg ditulis khas utk Johor Corporation bullshit.
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Post time 1-12-2011 03:00 PM | Show all posts
cerita iskandar puteri ni baru2 ni je dengar
dulu2 tak pernah dengar...nampak sangat rekaan

"wilayah pembangunan...eh amende pulak iskandar pulak kat sini ni?"
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Post time 1-12-2011 03:15 PM | Show all posts
Jadinya perubahan dari Tanjung Puteri-->Bandar Iskandar Puteri-->Johor Bahru tu auta aje le?

Anyway, nape Dato' Medrum namakan residence dia Iskander?
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 Author| Post time 1-12-2011 03:43 PM | Show all posts
Reply 11# alphawolf

Sebab.. "Iskander" tu name dia... = James ALEXANDER Meldrum..... a corrupted version of 'alexander' in malay language is 'Iskandar' = ALEXANDER the great : ISKANDAR zulkarnain etc. etc.

Owing his loyalty and respect to Albert Baker family, dia stay kt JB sejak kecik.. kawin dan mati kat JB... even adopt a local culture and language.
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Post time 1-12-2011 08:21 PM | Show all posts
Nit picking a little bit ...

Iskander" tu name dia... = James ALEXANDER Meldrum..... a corrupted version of 'alexander' in malay language is 'Iskandar'


Ni dah betul dah ...

ALEXANDER the great : ISKANDAR zulkarnain


Yang ni terkehel sikit .... Alexander memang sama dengan Iskandar, The Great tak sama dengan Zulkarnain / Dhul-Qarnayn dalam Quran.

Of course, it is still debatable ...

Please continue with the topic at hand ....
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Post time 1-12-2011 08:37 PM | Show all posts
Nice thread..{:4_181:}
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Post time 1-12-2011 10:24 PM | Show all posts
hoh begitu rupenye cite nye...
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Post time 1-12-2011 10:41 PM | Show all posts
hahaha... kiranya umno sudah tipu sama kita la ni...
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Post time 2-12-2011 02:54 AM | Show all posts
dari pelusuk mane dtg nye nama "Bandar Iskandar Puteri" ni...?? tiba2 aje muncul
bukan satu nama aje ke... just "Tanjung Puteri"....
SUNGGUH MEREPEK...!!!
dan sesgt tak logik dikenali sbagai "Bandar Iskandar Puteri" coz prkataan "bandar" adalah bahasa melayu moden....
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Post time 2-12-2011 07:35 AM | Show all posts
jap.. aku kompius..

bukan ker Wilayah Iskandar tuh adalah kawasan baru yang sebelum nih memang nama lain.. so bila kerajaan persekutuan bangunkan kawasan tuh, depa berikanlah nama baru..

sama kes jugak macam Putrajaya jugak.. dulu kawasan tuh nama lain, pastu kerajaan persekutuan bangunkan then dorang beri nama lain untuk kawasan tuh..

ker aku refer pada tempat yang berbeza nih..??
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Post time 2-12-2011 08:48 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 2-12-2011 08:50 AM | Show all posts
punyalah ramai menteri kabinet dari Johor tapi cuma TT je yg nmpk citer ni  
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