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tiner posted on 30-10-2013 01:40 PM
Hmmm nk kata anak i tlalu attach dgn i pon x jugak sbb dgn org lain anak i ok...at least xde la di ...
ur maid baru kejeke? my maid baru kije 1 month wif me n tak pernah masuk mesia n tak pernah kije..jd, dia x phm lg ngan budaya n adab kita..
hrmmm..tula..x bagus jugala kalu selalu2 dia naik sore ngan anak2..my maidlak ade mood..sometimes ok..sometimes tak ok..sometimes dia ngomel..sometimes dia tak ngomel kalu disuruh...ade mase kene sound gak cik bibik kita...remind dia..yg dia dtg tuk bekerja..jadi, kene patuh n tak bolela nk merungut kalu boss suruh..lagipon bukannya kita suh dia buat jenayah pon! sblm2 ni my bibik if disuruh..ade masanya suke menjawab..tapi, ni ari..ntah kenapa..dialak yg offer diri nak masak itu dan ini..mungkin sbb dia harap i bayar gaji dia cash kot (aka dia bimbang dia tak diberi gaji cash sedangkan di indon family dia butu* wang)..
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tiner posted on 30-10-2013 01:40 PM
Hmmm nk kata anak i tlalu attach dgn i pon x jugak sbb dgn org lain anak i ok...at least xde la di ...
besa kalu budak tak suke..mungkin ade sesuatu yg tak kene pd bibik tu..or mebe anak kita sendiri dlm peringkat adjustment menerima stranger or new comer dlm family..nak2 kalu bibik tu bermuke kureng or jenis keras or tak sabar ngan bebudak...
Last edited by aryssaharris on 4-11-2013 05:48 PM
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tiner posted on 30-10-2013 01:40 PM
Hmmm nk kata anak i tlalu attach dgn i pon x jugak sbb dgn org lain anak i ok...at least xde la di ...
Hi Tiner,
Latest update..dlm 5 org anak2 i..ade 2 org yg x brp ngam my maid..sbbnya..my 4th tu mmg tgh manja ngan i..ape2 pon nak his mom..
my 2ndlak..sbb, bibik i suke marah2 dia..n i pon sendiri ngaku..my 2nd ni notty sket n keras kepala..suka usik adik2 dan abg..
My 3rdlak flexible..kkdg dia nak..kkdg dia tak nak..my bibik plak..altho umur da 31 yo n ade anak 3..perangai dia ade masanya bole jd happy go lucky dan keanak2an..kekdahnya melayan bebudak mcm kakak dan adik2..n dialak jenis tak sabo...ade one time..dia dok ty my 3rd nak minum ape..tapi, my 3rd plak tak jawab2..dia plak jd naik hantu..naik sore sambil cakap..'nak minum apa?? hishhh XX ni..entahla bibik tak tahu kamu ini, kamu tu mahu minum apa?' terus give up dan berlalu dr meja makan..kalu jenis penyabar..mesti anak2 kita tu da diusap2..tanya elok2 or dan kasik suggestion or tunjukkan jenis2 air yg lain..kiranya, skill memujuk tu tak brp ade..tp, mebe bole dipolish..
ade one time dia gitau i..'puan, si XX (my 4th) tak mahu dgn saya'..
dan secara spontannya i preview balik camne dia layan my 3rd child tempohari sambil gitau kat dia secara berseloroh..'yelah, macamana budak tu nak mahu dgn kamu kalu macam itu...kamu kene belajar sabar..kalu tak budak tak mahu, harus dipujuk..tak boleh nak menjerit'.
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i mmg tanya sana sini nk maid.
and tadi, dpt 1 call, if i nak bibik, klau boleh beri gaji rm800. dia nak lah.
amboiii....
x kenal agi dia, ok ke tak keje, dgn anak2 oke ke tak, da berani nak 800??
kenapa mereka demand, sbb senang da diorg ni dpt keje..
takde permit pun boleh keje carrefour dgn gaji rm1500????
UPDATE
--yg col nk 800 tu i ckp takleh. then dia col balik setuju utk 700--
Last edited by DIYAnIFA on 14-11-2013 10:20 PM
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tiner posted on 29-10-2013 10:08 AM
Salam,
Nk share pendapat uols semua..i ada maid, tp sangat berkira buat keje...actually buat keje ...
salam tiner...
this is just my opinion ajek yer....
u amek maid mainly utk jaga anak whilst u r not around kan?
kalau anak tak suker maid, u kena observe apa sebab? penting utk amek tau. amek ajek teladan dr kesah anak2 yg menangis melalak tanak pegi taska bebaru nie rupa2nyer kena mental and physical torture dkt sana. tp makpak igt anak simply mengader2 and they will eventually outgrown it. observe bebetol naper anak tanak dkt maid?
my maid has been with me for 6th years. my no.2 and 3, mmg rapat and easy with my maid. my no.1 on the other hand, ada masa dier ok, ada masa dier melawan. my maid, kalau i cakap kunci pintu, mmg dier kunci pintu tadek chance anak i even nak main beskal kat luar ke aper. my eldest child i understand dier dah besar nak kebebasan main dkt luar tp sbb zaman skang bahaya, only bila maid dah free (or my hb and i - eother one) ada dkt rumah utk tunggu dier main dkt luar baru dier dapat keluar. else, main dlm pagar ajek.
my maid in general, ok. TAPI, i ada cakap, if she ever screw up, i will not hesitate to fire her IMMEDIATELY. immediately means, i will pack ur bag and send u out from my house, regardless. benda2 kecik, i boleh bertolak ansur. contoh, dier kekadang kain baju pon tak berlipat 2-3 hari. its ok with me. sbb kalau i pon, blom tentu i can afford to take care 3 children whilst doing the housechore perfectly. tapi, hal2 anak....i wud never tolerate. i cakap, priority dier ialah MY CHILDREN. my children mesti makan pada waktunyer, makan menda yg berkhasiat (ada 14 days menu sesiap) terbela, terjaga,mandi pakai aper sumer. their overall well-being in general.
even ada maid, i suruh my maid pastikan anak2 i yg besar 2 org tue (7 and 5yo) to make their own bed, angkat pinggan makan sendiri and kemas their own toys and watnot. my maid akan jd observer ajek. tp ada hal2 yg lain, mmg maid kena buat.
my maid is not perfect, ada waktu mengade buat hal tue.....bengang gak. i will tell my husband and let him talk to her. part2 sound, its my husband job and my maid takot and try to improve. contoh, my maid akan cakap style menjerit jerit esp to my eldest. i tak suker. so, thru my husband, i bgtau that she needs to control her tone because we do not want her to send msg to our children that yelling to ppl is proper way to talk. nampakla that she tried to improve.
generally she's ok. benda2 yg patut kena tegur, i will tegur direct, tp kalau i takot i emo, my husband is the perantara la. tanak bengang2 dkt rumah sdiri ker haper. not healthy. not to offend her, tp this is my house, my rules. if u dont like it, u can go. and if i dont like you either, you will definitely out too. i ckp kat my husband, i tak kesah tadek maid dari ada maid tapi hati dan jiwa raga sakit. but over the last 6 yrs, she's doint pretty well.....alhamdulillah.... |
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DIYAnIFA posted on 12-11-2013 08:18 PM
i mmg tanya sana sini nk maid.
and tadi, dpt 1 call, if i nak bibik, klau boleh beri gaji rm800. ...
derang pandai demand salah kita gak.
sbb kita tunjuk hegeh sgt nak kat derang walaupon servis belum tentu lagik.
kalau kita tanak bayar 800, ada org sanggup bayar equal or more...tu yg naik toncit tue....its like take it or leave it gitewwwww for most of them...yg majikan lak, bila maid buat taik, majikan yg kena jeruk rasa sakit jiwa raga tetap nak bela derang gak...derang rilek jek mcm rumah nie aku screw up, ada seribu rumah lain nakkan aku......tue yg naik lemak tue...
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tina^^ posted on 13-11-2013 03:48 PM
salam tiner...
this is just my opinion ajek yer....
very best part of u and husband u.. tegas dan berterus terang serta husband u boleh marah dia.
mcm i.. my husband takkan marah directly macam tu..
i pon mmg suruh anak2 i basuh pinggan sendiri, basuh kasut sendiri, kemas katil sendiri.. macam kdg2 tak perfect keje dia mcm u ckp tu, i pon leh terima kekadang x smpat sbb klau i pun mcm tu jugak.. mana yg i x suka i tegur dan dia akan improved. cuma, demand gaji la. dr 600, setahun naik 700 lps tu 800.. last dia mintak 900 i tak boleh lagi dah nk bg, sbb tak baloi dgn tahap kualiti kerjanya dan rumah kondo 3 bilik je.. kerja rumah x byk, tp handle anak2 i tu mmg leh tahan la.. 3org.. 2 yg kecik tu lelaki.. bertahanlah bibik i yg tu dkt 3thn..
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tina^^ posted on 13-11-2013 04:53 PM
derang pandai demand salah kita gak.
sbb kita tunjuk hegeh sgt nak kat derang walaupon servis ...
tina.. ada ke org kita yg terhegeh2 sangat ngn diorg nie.. i rs dr simpan maid yg menyakitkan hati, baik xde maid...
derang mmg demand giler la. mmg ramai yg nak.. tu yg diorg perasaan tu. tp lau diorang yg perasaan mcm nie, i x rs la diorg leh kekal dgn satu2 majikan sbb x reti bersyukur..
lps bibik yg demand 900 tu leave, i dpt bibik lain. kerja tu oke la, tp bab anak2 tu fail. smpai sebulan kerja pun anak i taknak ngn dia. so i decide tak nak sambung dan minta tukar..
now dpt maid mcm oke.. at least ngn anak2 tu nmpk oke..
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tina^^ posted on 13-11-2013 03:48 PM
salam tiner...
this is just my opinion ajek yer....
Hi guys,
Any suggestion how to handle maid yg tak bule ditegur..eg. bila ditegur suka nak marah..or bila ditegur sket2 nak merajuk and say to cancel permit?
Have maid in the house recommeneded by my ex-cleaner. My maid keeps on saying sbb am not paying anything to her aunty. Therefore, she is freedom to leave the Company if she wants. Habis tu yg i dok bayar immigration of her permit tu..camno pulak? bukan duit or investment at riskke?
Last resort..better off, terminate kontrak minah ni..gaji rm700 pon x reti bersyukur..apa yg derang nak lagi pon tak tahulah...
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Anybod can share agent maid that can be trusted. My previous case agent pun lari..luckily my maid stayed with me for 4 yrs. In Feb 201 dia nak balik trus da..so need a replacement. The salary mmg min RM700 ye skrg? Last edited by bc75 on 24-11-2013 05:39 PM
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aryssaharris posted on 22-11-2013 03:14 PM
Hi guys,
Any suggestion how to handle maid yg tak bule ditegur..eg. bila ditegur suka nak marah.. ...
dia takot dgn your husband tak? kalau takot ngn your husband, suruh husband yg tegur.
i buat camtue. coz kita pompan dgn pompan, nanti emo lebe. kita pon emo gak bila maid naik toncet kan? so, part tue, i serah to my husband. sbb my husband akan bercakap dgn maid bila perlu ajek. unlike us, balik rumah tanyer2 maid abt kids and whereabouts kan. so, dier dah biasa borak santai2 with us.
maybe you kena beri dier kater dua. take it or leave it. like us, our maid recently tampal new cutting about min salary RM900 tue in her room. tho dier tak mintak naik gaji directly, but we read between the lines. i told my husband to clear the air, fast. coz i dont like the "double meaning" behind it. in our house, i tak suker nak pendam2 rasa or syak wasangka to the maid, vice versa. i nak dier clear and so thus us.
my husband made it clear that she will not get RM900 in nearest future because kita baru naikkan gaji dier RM100 tahun nie, lepas dier dpt permit. dier dulu, maid kosong. so bila ada pemutihan, we legalise her with all our cost etc etc. gaji dah revise as agreed with embassy. so, kita follow yg itu. embsassy taruk min RM700 and both agreed. so that's it.
alternatively, kena juga prepare back up plan kalau maid btol2 takde. i dah ready with it. nak hantar anak mana, macam mana etc etc, in the absent of helper at home. so, kalau dier nak stay with us, we are more than happy. but if she wants to leave, its ok. we already have planned on our own.
ada maid ok, xde maid pon boleh hidup, insya allah. so, kebergantungan pada maid tue so-so ajek, dan dier pon tahu. nak kerja, kerja btol2. tanak kerja, then we depart our ways...
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korang.... i trigt nk msk cni coz nk share stories ngn korang...
it is very2 sad story actually... sebab melibatkn my kasen...
dier amik maid melalui pemutihan... dh tua dh makcik ni... n she pkai her almost 4yrs dh..
my kasen mmg selalu puji2 maid dier... coz mmg cam xder prob laaaa...
but.. bebaru ni time nk renew permit, medikal mkcik ni failed...
tetiba detected ader hipetitis B / batuk kering n penyakit klamin...
pdhal selama ni x penah lak detect.. mkcik ni selalu la brkg kt ampang nun ngn kaum dier time cuti2 panjang or weekend... mebbi dpt time tu...
worst.... anak2 dier (2 org) pon dpt skali hep B... psal mkcik ni mmg memasak utk diorng... the hsbn n herself pon effected.... so kesian...
so, korg... brhati2 la if bibik bekas PATI ni.... we never noe history diorg camner... n jugak those yg cuti weekend... dier might bercampur ngn kaum2 dier yg illegal n ader penyakit.. n bwk blk penyakit kt famili kiter... nauzubillah...
One more.... biler dh terminate ni... baru tau bibik dok masukkn serbuk aper ntah dlm nasi yg dier masak n lauk pauk... catch pon tru cctv yg baru jer psang coz umah diorg sellau msk pencuri... n my kasen admit, ngn bibik cam x berani nk tegur or naik suara sgt... n even, keje umah pon byk dier yg buat cam sidai baju.... ironing.. bibik more tunggu umah, tgk anak2 n memasak jer... mop lantai pon dier yg wat...
as for me... now i am maid free.... hehehe... badan mmg penat, but hati sgt senang... so far mmg lgi laaa i xnk amik maid... takut... |
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nurryn posted on 27-11-2013 01:37 PM
korang.... i trigt nk msk cni coz nk share stories ngn korang...
it is very2 sad story actually... ...
kesiannya your cousin.....
my maid has been with us for almost 6 yrs.....
i do pasang cctv jugak at home, generally for safety coz husband always not around besides can monitor maid and kids at home.
kalau masuk2 benda dalam makananan nie, menakutkan ajek.....my maid does the cooking too, wanauzubillah!
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hi tina,
tx for d advice. laa bila plak tu ade kuar berita gaji 900? mcm over, ok..if u dont mind..how much hv u been spent to legalizekan ur maid? now, masih bule lagike? hrmm, actually, my ex-cleaner tu ari pon.. if can nak i kasik gaji rm800 tu her niece..yg i pasan..indon ni..bukannya amik kisah ngan brp byk yg kita spend for their permit..byk masa..derang cume nak tau untung bersih utk diri sendiri..
yg i pasan..my maid mmg suke kalu my hubby talk to her..ishhkkk..rasa lain mcm plak aku jadiknya..my hubby plak..kalu menegur bibik..alahai..mcm sopan santun baek gile...jgn minah tu terperasan udah! u ade suggestion x supaya bibik ni tak menggedik sgt?
i noticed sgt dia cam suke n giving extra attention to my kids if my hubby is around kat tingkat bawah in my absence..tak tahula apa yg dia sukakan sgt..btw, my maid is 31 yo janda..my maid mmg rajin memuji2 my hubby..sgt care abt my hubby's health...(tak surela cause she had gone thru pain taking care her sick husband sbb tu dia concern if tuan majikan jatuh sakit sampai berkali2 dok ty i samaada my hubby da recover or belum)...another hint, dia mmg observe my husband..cam dok gitau kat i..my hubby turun tingkat bawah minum pukul 12 malam, take care my kids very much, tak pernah tegur or bising2 kat dia and etc..anyway, aku mmg da pesan to my hubby tak yah nak cakap sgt ngan minah ni..takut2 mmg dialak terperasan yg my hubby syiok kat dia..
bc75...immigration takde plak menetapkan min gaji..rasanya, embassy indon tu je yg lelebih siap nk suh kasik cuti...
nurryn, long time have not heard ur story..ur maid da abis kontrakka? yelakan..da 2 taun berlalu since we exchg abt maid story..my youngest pon da nak masuk 2 yrs nxt year in Jan. Hrmm, takut jugak bunyinya tu siap ade penyakit kelamin segala..patutla gomen advise kita wat fomema setaun sekali..kalu idak..sampai bila2 kita ingatkan maid kita suci murni..heran b ajaib tu..punye bibik..tp, kitalak yg kene sidai baju n mop lantai..bagai ade yg tak kena...nauzubillah.. |
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Tak de sesiapa yg br ambk maid ke..nak cari agen yg boleh dpercayai... |
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hi aryssaharris
maybe you can suggest to your husband yg dier kena tegas biler bercakap dgn maid sbb dier ketua keluarga, the NO.1.....respect dkt no. 1 kena ada la. kena draw the line bukan kita nak tunjuk 'tuan' sgt, tp kita tau kalau beri muka derang naik kaduk (generally) so, better set the limit dari awal. maid nak menggedik, kalau tuan buat garang, takot dier i rasa. tapi kalau lebe lebe, baik cantas dari awal.
nah, ini kos legalise maid last year- kebetulan ada tulis dalam slip gaji dier.
Kos Pembayaran Passport & Permit 2012 (Ditanggung Majikan)
Bayaran Pendaftaran PATI (6 Aug 2011) RM350
Bayaran Passport (24 Sept 2011) RM350
Bayaran kepada Duta Indonesia (29 Dec 2011) RM18
FOMEMA (5 June 2012) RM190
Levi (5 June 2012) RM495
JUMLAH RM1,403
masa legalise tue dier akan panggil maid dan majikan interview skali. dalam tue embassy akan mintak min 700 salary dgn cuti setiap ahad. i think, its reasonable.
yg menyampah tue bila kerajaan mesia sibuk promote min salary RM900 to all workers, jadik maid2 nie fefeling gak nak naik gaji. eventually, someday gaji dier akan sampaila ke tahap tue insya allah kalau dier kerja lama ngn kitorang dan kerja bagus xde buat hal kan? i think sumer majikan x kesah nak bayar extra kalau kerja bagus. Last edited by tina^^ on 29-11-2013 05:30 PM
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DIYAnIFA posted on 14-11-2013 10:16 PM
tina.. ada ke org kita yg terhegeh2 sangat ngn diorg nie.. i rs dr simpan maid yg menyakitkan hati ...
maksud i , maid2 nie tau....kalau family A tanak dier, family B akan DESPERATE nak dier.
lepas tue, dier screw up....dier tau akan ada FAMILY C lak yg akan DESPERATE nak dier.
so the chain goes on. itu pasal maid2 nie tak kesah pon kalau kena benti keje ker haper sbb dier tau ada family2 lain yg akan SANGGUP amek derang anytime aje....
if boleh buat satu database kan....maid2 yg buat hal nie utk rujukan all majikan....haa......best sket....hihihi..sbb dkt imi, kalau maid lari pon i heard majikan yg kena bayar penalty RM500??
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assalammualaikum.
AKHIRNYA, maid ku lari jua....cisbedebah betul.
Remember yang dia nak balik bercuti sebulan sebab nanti nak sambung kontrak-nak beli rumah -rumah kena jual?
Dia dah bekerja 1 tahun 7 bulan. Kontak akan tamat MAC 2014.
Habis jek pantang, kena plak uruskan hal dia nak balik bercuti.
Sebelum balik bercuti, kena pergi kedutaan indonesia dahulu untuk endorse kan kontrak kerja as requirement untuk dia buat kad KTKLN bila dia balik Indonesia nanti.
Leceh jugak lah sebab nak kena sediakan a few documents lagi.huhu
Untuk endorse jek, dah kena amik cuti 1 hari.huhu
Tiket air asia aku dah siap beli pergi-balik.
Awal-awal sampai, adalah called bagitau dah sampai bla-bla-bla.
Seminggu sebelum balik sini, aku try call nak cakap dengan dia tak dapat-dapat. Laki dia aseklah buat alasan duit tak ada nak buat kad KTKLN tu. Suruh aku bank in kan duit.
Ha.Sorry naik lorry lah!
Since kontrak belum tamat, memang aku ada pegang duit gaji dia RM2k as cagaran.
Then bila tanya balik sini tak, asek jawap tak pasti.
So masa tarikh dia balik sini, aku tak tunggu pon. Tapi entah macam mana, instinct aku cakap, dia akan balik.
Rupanya, betul pon dia balik tapi melalaui PELABUHAN KLANG.
See, nampak sangat dah merancang nak lari.
Aku tau dia dah plan nak kerja dekat tempat lain. Either kerja kilang or PUB!
Ni aku dapat tau dari sms dia yang aku baca.
Konon dulu nak pakai HP sebab senang nak hubungi keluarga. puihhhh. Banyak sms dengan jantan-jantan kabaret adalah.
Dia ni keluarga aku layan punyalah baik. Kerja pon bukan susah mana pon. Tidoooo jek banyak. Aku tak nak bunyik sangat sebab takut dia apa-apakan anak aku.
Dia nak balik jek bercuti, macam-macam ole-ole yang dia dapat.
Betullah, rambut jek sama hitam. Hati lain-lain.
So now, i'm maidless.
Sesiapa ada trusted agency. Silalah beritahu. Nak buat JP Visa tak dapat dah.
Gaji RM700 pon okeh.
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