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Post time 13-6-2008 12:48 AM | Show all posts
When people want to understand, or ask you to explain about things, they are actually asking for another person to explain it in term of them, of what they think to be true. So, most can only see what they want to see.

btw usopp, what i talk above is generalization and not specifically about you.
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Post time 13-6-2008 12:50 AM | Show all posts

Reply #201 hamizao's post

btw hami, why the change of quote?

where goes beingness?
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Post time 13-6-2008 12:55 AM | Show all posts

Reply #202 Agul's post

Well, the last time I read this thread IS of Science, Technology and Mathematics. Any opinion may be expressed in that context too.

I do like the Theory of Everything thing. I wonder if it's the same as the unified theory? Any takers?
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Post time 13-6-2008 12:59 AM | Show all posts

Reply #204 Agul's post

You may call it  rebranding ...heheheh. Khalil Jilbran gone home.
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Post time 13-6-2008 01:26 AM | Show all posts

Reply #205 hamizao's post

Yeah, but the lowest I think you can go is modern physics eventhough it's still limited. Former mechanical physics just don't't cut it.

If you went deeper into TOE, unified theory, all the stuff of modern physics and how physicalities really is, you'll see that we are in a really big cosmic soup of energy. Which may or may not exist since everything is only perception of mind projection, and there are absolutely no objectivities in the world.

The mind like to label, understand. This topic is still in the level of mind, but you can come to certain speculation. However to see the absolute truth, one have to go beyond the mind. may be mind boggling, or just boggling.  

At this moment, to me this seems to be an exercise in futility. And you won't find the answer in a million years, but it's good to pass up time. However, you might find out the answer if you can upgrade it to the level just above the mind. Beyond thinking and knowledge. Just knowing, or being. Btw, this is as scientific as it is. Maybe a little above the realm of Edison pragmatic scientific approach, up to the realm Tesla and above operates in.

Ok, ok just go on discussing. Yaayyy!

I once know a good site on toe, not sure where it is, right now they are working to prove this,in a grand scientific studies that may takes couple of decades, or more. Or you may be interested to read on The Elegant Universe, by Brian Greene. At least a little bit of light can be found there.
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Post time 13-6-2008 01:27 AM | Show all posts

Reply #206 hamizao's post

ha ha, this one maybe little bit funkier.
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #198 ussopp's post

bertanya tu kan bagus Ussops becoz if u rather ap[proach in non confrontational way then it will be a heakthy good discussion in anything...so yes..
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:04 PM | Show all posts

Hai Hami not a goosebumps

not really  a mature person like thsi forumner Paparock will alway write good, mature answer as u could noice on this thread in the previous pages Hami , these are great people, outside the cyberscape they are doc, engineers and what u knpw Hami just look how much questions ..tonnes  and loads of questions were thrown at them and they answered  ~  the key is  the perception....if u think that person who asked alot  is only meant to challenged  or to  bring u down you kan Hami, then it is sad lah  kot kan Hami , ? if u think it makes you grow and  brush up ur communication skills then it's ok, kan Hami?U cannot expect every one faham u at the instant ....and  my weakness is i malas nak elaborate huhuhu as i always finda way to escape by saying tak per lah  u tak faham tak poer but it is pretty rude for me lah actually  so sorry and i know it's very annoying....so my mistake.

[ Last edited by  mbhcsf at 13-6-2008 02:09 PM ]
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:06 PM | Show all posts

eh Ussop

a person like Mail golok is good for quentum discussion , it is just that i could net get him here..ntah dah boring kot kat sini sebab tak der yg the "usual" regulars...that 's what keeps this board going
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mbhcsf at 12-6-2008 06:06 PM
hi handsome ,, what have u gotta say?hmm?

all those the event horizon and so forth ?

Ussop  are u into this thing? the quantum etc etc? let us talk about ur field of reserach ...boleh tak?


event horizan? why? r u discussing about this? aku jenguk jer, x bace post kowang... ahahaha...
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ussopp at 12-6-2008 06:21 PM
saya tak kerja lagi....tgh stadi in mechatronic engineering....tapi saya memang minat fizik tapi tak dapat masa apply dulu....

walopun tak dapat tapi rasanya tak dak masalah sebab saya buleh t ...


sye ade 1 website yg menarik utk belajar fizik part time.. PM sye...

[ Last edited by  aku_EnSeM at 13-6-2008 02:44 PM ]
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ussopp at 16-5-2008 11:05 PM
hallo.....hallo....

takde orang nak bagi komen ke

tentang persamaan antara neraka dan black hole?


Neraka n black hole? kekeke... tak tau r, uni x ajar bende tu...

Nk ckp neraka tu black hole ker? uhuhuhu... Tp bg aku_EnSeM (ensem ker? hahaha) diorg mungkin share properties tertentu, tp they are not entirely the same. Ini kerana jika neraka itu black hole, neraka akan hilang melalui Hawking Radiation..
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Post time 13-6-2008 02:51 PM | Show all posts
well, modern physics almost forget about 1 theory that might have the ability to form the TOE.

Look for Information theory. And slame aku blaja, xpernah ade org citer psl bende ni.. Die slalunye dlm computer science, but afetr i finished reading the book 'Decoding The Universe' yg mana writer die citer psl Information Theory, saye rse teori ni cukup powerful! It even explains why the quantum effects only apply for minuscule particle... Die menerangkan dengan jayanye...

Namun, teori ni sangatlah sedikit dibincangkan pada peringkat fizik... Programmer jer yg gune teori ni selalu...
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Post time 13-6-2008 03:17 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Arissa_Sofea at 13-1-2007 07:15 AM


tu taktaulaa...tak pnah ader eksperimen yang boleh tunjuk apa jadi....

tapi setakat data yang boleh dicollect...kita hanya tau apa akan jadi sampai kat event horizon jer....kat situ tidal  ...


ahaha... n disitulah terletaknye sume sampah2 universe...
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Post time 13-6-2008 03:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Arissa_Sofea at 14-10-2006 01:29 AM
Halaju lebih dari kelajuan cahaya....according to current theory is possible....
1st, further elaboration of relativity theory dan experimental observation, scientist theorize that dalam space 4 ...


ahaha.. that is really great... but i think, speed kite dlm subspace tu still restricted to below c kan? Xtau betul ke x... hehehe...

Imagine that kite ni tinggal dlm dunia 1 dimension jer. N 2 galaxy terletak kt hujung diameter bulatan. Utk org dlm world 1 dimension ni, diorg kene travel along the circumference and it takes them ages to travel form the 1st to the second galaxy.. Namun if they somehow are able to enter the 2nd dimension, they can now travel along the diameter of the circle and it takes shorter time for them to travel between the galaxies. Relative to the 1-dimensional universe, they travel faster than c but in the 2-D world, they are still restricted to the speed of light limit...

Tp in this case of subspace, tatau r analogy ni boleh pakai ke x.. Cuma sye rse klu diorg travel through subspace, speed diorg dlm subspace tu still less than c but relative to any body who lives in our 3+1D universe, they travel faster than light... Betul ker nie?
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Post time 13-6-2008 03:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mbhcsf at 13-6-2008 02:00 PM
bertanya tu kan bagus Ussops becoz if u rather ap[proach in non confrontational way then it will be a heakthy good discussion in anything...so yes..


ya...dan saya prefer to go slow....

saya tak mo tanya banyak pasai quantum lg sebab, saya even tatau saya nak tanya apa.....huhu...
perasaan paling teruk bukan perasaan tak tahu.....
tapi tak tahu apa yg kita tak tahu... so sy betul2 nak go slow....

sebenarnya sy tertinggal banyak pasal benang ni so sy nak masuk2 sket2.....tak nak interrupt flow kat sini....

dan apa yg sy nak discus kan ialah tentang api warna hitam di neraka(seperti dalam hadis)....sebab regarding to black hole characteristic, yes a star(fire) can be black....
so the black neraka not that ridiculous in perspective of science...plus its logic and parralel with science...
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Post time 13-6-2008 03:56 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aku_EnSeM at 13-6-2008 02:41 PM


Neraka n black hole? kekeke... tak tau r, uni x ajar bende tu...

Nk ckp neraka tu black hole ker? uhuhuhu... Tp bg aku_EnSeM (ensem ker? hahaha) diorg mungkin share properties tertentu, ...



yap, bukan suma tapi tertentu, dan apa yg saya nak higlight ialah pasal api warna hitam tu....which both hell and black hole have.
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Post time 13-6-2008 04:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #219 ussopp's post

api wrne hitam? tatau pun... ...
x alim kot aku nie... kekeke...

1 thing, api wrne hitam, die bebas haba... Black hole x bebas haba kot....

Jika api tu wrne hitam, it means that it doesnt emit visible light. However, it may emit photons with different energy that are not visible to our eyes, which makes it hot, and so i think it is no longer a black hole. Pasal no photon can leave black hole...

perlukan pandangan org lain...

[ Last edited by  aku_EnSeM at 13-6-2008 04:03 PM ]
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Post time 13-6-2008 04:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #210 mbhcsf's post

I am sorry but could you please write in a more intelligible way. A bit hard to understand.
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Post time 13-6-2008 04:05 PM | Show all posts

Reply #221 Agul's post

aik? ade org gaduh ker?
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