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Pesawat MH17 Terhempas V3 : Ketua pemberontak sudah hubungi Malaysia #1
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UN Security Council passes MH17 resolution
The resolution, unanimously passed, calls for for an independent investigation and full access to the site. Julie Bishop, Australia's ambassador to the UN, describes the resolution:
"Armed groups in control of the crash site provide safe access immediately to allow for the recovery of the bodies. These armed groups top any actions that compromise the integrity of the crash site. There must be a ceasefire in the immediate area around the site.
"Russia must use its influence [among] separatist [groups] to ensure this. [Russia] must use its influence to bring the conflict in east Ukraine to an end."
The resolution calls for a "full, thorough, independent and international investigation into this act".
Bishop continues: "We owe it to the victims and their families to determine what happened and who is responsible. It is despicable that this access is not being provided. It is an affront to the victims … all states, all groups must cooperate."
"We have an overriding objective to restore dignitiy respect and justice to those killed on MH17 … We will not rest until we bring them home." |
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Doakan segalanya dipermudahkan |
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sian MAS kalau insurance tak cover. mcm ada x lena antara apa yg aviation declare selamat dengan insurance punya policy wording. pads aku war zone tu dibawah dan above 32 000 feet tu bukan war zone |
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Semoga perancangan ni berjalan lancar. Sama-sma kita doakan |
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Tahniah Russia dengan minor amendment to the resolution diaorg tak menggunakan veto..walaupun US dan sekutu sebelum ni propa mcm mereka akan menolak |
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nasib baik ada progres
harap sempat lah kebumikan jenazah2 penumpang mh17 di mesia sebelum syawal
kalau tak harus jibby beraya di ukraine sana jah  |
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Muntz posted on 21-7-2014 09:51 PM
Tapi election tahun lepas dia menang noks. Haruslah menunjukkan betapa Aussies majoriti sayangkan ...
Khenn... kawan2 i termasuk lecturer byk yg kutuk heols... yg undi heols pun yg tua2. Alah mcm yg kt sini lah... |
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rusia bersedia utk memberikan kerjasama
dan tak lupa utk menghencap US dan ukraine sekali.
"Russia is ready to provide any assistance necessary," Vitaly Churkin, Russia's UN envoy, has told the UN.
Churkin says that Russia fully supports an investigation to "shed light on the truth", and that "all elements of truth, including the lack boxes, should be provided to ICAO", the international aviation agency.
He says that "on the ground there must be access" and that international experts' security must be ensured, possibly with "some kind of humanitarian corridors". He adds that though it's good that "representatives of Donbass, Donetsk … and involved countries" are on the ground, "there needs to be a full compliment of experts at the crash site."
Russian ambassador to the United Nations Vitaly Churkin. Photograph: Spencer Platt/Getty Images
"There's no need to turn the international investigation into a tragedy into a farce," Churkin continues, denouncing Kiev's government and retorting US ambassador Samantha Power sharply.
"But there can be no jumping to conclusions nor political statements here. What's going on today is absolutely inadmissible. It seems that Kiev is attempting to draw on the international community to step up its attack [of] indiscriminate air strikes, hitting cities and killing civilians."
"During the investigation, Ukraine will have to answer a number of questions, [such as about] the activity of its air traffic controllers, and why one of its Buk systems was in one of the area."
Of the recordings and materials the Ukrainian government alleges link the Kremlin to separatists, Churkin says "the controversial recordings of … rebel commanders … seem to be touched up, altered conversations, that had taken place before 17 July. A video that apparently showed a Buk complex … was actually filmed in Ukrainian territory, and thus could not have been controlled by rebels."
Churkin calls for a "swift halt to the clashes and violence", saying "Let's not forget that the reason for the incident was an armed conflict."
Finally, Churkin turns his attention to the US:
"It seemed to me that today's meeting was not going to be controversial, but the American representative chose a literary track. Perhaps the US does not know about efforts taken by Russia … to ensure international experts [safety and access].
"If that's the fact, then the American embassy should be better informed."
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sebelum tuh, statement dr US
"There is one party from whom we've heard too little condemnation, and that is Russia," says US ambassador Samantha Power, who has again spoken out against Russia at the UN Security Council.
"If there really is consensus that these crimes merit immediate … investigation, why did we meet here today to demand one?"
"Not everyone is supporting … the investigation. … If they did, [investigators would have] unimpeded access to the crime scene, all the wreckage would've been left preserved. … [But] we have literally heard the sound of debris, all of it evidence that needs to be carefully preserved, crunching beneath separatists' feet."
US ambassador to the UN Samantha Power. Photograph: Spencer Platt/Getty Images
Power now says "Russia's muteness over these dark days sent a message to illegal armed groups: we have your backs."
"Russian officials have publicly insinuated that [blame falls] on Ukraine, [and] [previously] blamed Ukrainian air traffic controllers."
She says that if Russia were interested in a transparent and thorough investigation, then "surely, President Putin would've told the separatists, many of whose leaders are from Russia, to maintain the scene at all costs."
"We welcome Russia's support for the resolution, but no resolution would've been necessary had Russia used its influence to get separatists to lay down their arms … on Thursday, or on Friday or on Saturday.
"President Putin did [call on Monday] to secure the security of international experts, however, and this is critically important, President Putin did not … call on separatists to lay down their arms."
"Russia's muteness over the dark days … sent a message to the illegal armed groups: we have your backs."
Power says this implicit message is sent by supplying weapons, by never calling on rebels to disarm, and by "massing thousands of troops at the Ukrainian border".
"Today we have taken a step toward combating impunity … we have adopted this resolution but we are not naive. If Russia is not part of the solution it will continue to be part of the problem. … Russia can use its influence." |
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cloudy_83 posted on 22-7-2014 04:07 AM
nasib baik ada progres
harap sempat lah kebumikan jenazah2 penumpang mh17 di mesia sebelum syawal
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Kalau bab diplomasi mmg Malaysia juara....agaknya sbb tu kedua black box tu pemisah nak bg kat Malaysia saja....pemisah dgn kita mentimun... |
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"Grief, anger and despair" are the theme of the message by the Dutch foreign minister, Frans Timmermans, who was visibly shaken as he delivered a moving statement to the UN. "In the victims' final moments, did they lock hands with their loved ones? Did they hold their children close to their hearts? Did they look each other in the eyes one final time in a wordless goodbye. We will never know. "The demise of almost 200 of my compatriots has left a hole in the heart of the Dutch nation. … We have one overriding objective: bring the victims' remains home."
Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans, with Vitaly Churkin, Russian envoy to the UN. Photograph: Andrew Gombert/EPA
Timmermans now takes a moment to address the ambassadors "not as representatives of your countries, but as husbands and wives". "In the last couple of days we've received very disturbing reports of bodies being moved about, and looted for their possessions. Just for one minute, I'm not addressing you as representatives of your countries, but as husbands and wives, [fathers and mothers]. "Imagine … that you first get the news that your husband was killed, and then within two or three days you see images of some thug removing the wedding band from the hands. Just imagine that this could be your spouse. To my dying day I will not understand that it took so much time for the rescue workers to be allowed to [reach the site and work]. Referring to comments by other representatives of political accusations, Timmermans says "This is the political game that has been played with human remains, and it is despicable. Images of children toys being tossed around, luggage being opened, and passports, including passports of children, being shown on television." "They are turning our grief into anger. … We demand access. We demand respectful treatment. We demand dignity for the victims. "I call on anyone with influence, allow us to bring victims' remains home to their loved ones without any further delay. They deserve to be home. "I pledge that the Netherlands will do its utmost to ensure that all remains will be identified and delivered home, wherever that home may be. Please, provide full cooperation so that justice can be served. We will not rest until all facts are known and justice is served."
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In Donetsk, black box negotiations remain murky and fraught, Shaun Walker reports. From the hotel where the Malaysian delegation met rebel leaders, he tells me that "Talks are ongoing, but it's unclear if this is a handover or a negotiation." When the initial meeting took place, a "massive media scrum" took over the hotel lobby and it seems the black boxes never actually arrived with the rebel representatives. The Kyiv Post's Christopher Miller and Buzzfeed's Max Seddon have similar accounts.
 
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Asked if #MH17 black box would be handed over tonight, Malaysia delegation tells me, "we have no idea." 4:29 AM - 22 Jul 2014
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The Malaysians drive off to Borodai's office. #MH17 4:26 AM - 22 Jul 2014 Ukraine, Ukraine
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yg penting we able to reveal the truth. siapa yang buat tak kisah la pemberontak pro Russia ke Ukraine. pandangan aku walaupun dalam aviation law ada sebut 'place of accident/occurrence' aku rasa tak boleh diguna pakai dalam konteks ni sebab ni kes shoot down dan possibility tu ada Ukraine terlibat dan mcm aku highlight mereka mungkin juga boleh dituduh cuai menilai safety zone untuk air-space mereka. memang mcm resolution di UN independent investigation perlu dilaksanakan dan tidak di ketuai oleh Ukraine (walaupun dengan kerjasama mereka). ni bukan kes kerosakan air plane atau kecuaian ATC dalam mengendalikan pesawat in & out
kita dah dengar 8 hujah Ukraine dan persoalan2 dan hujah2 from Russia. kedua-dua mereka ada fact masing2 tinggal scientific & fair investigation sahaja boleh sahkan. so kena kemukakan bukti. |
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Muntz posted on 22-7-2014 04:39 AM
Kalau aku lah family member mangsa, aku tak kisah pun jenazah tu dikebumi mana2, tak bawak balik p ...
yup agree... |
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Post time 22-7-2014 03:21 AM
