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Pesawat MH17 Terhempas V3 : Ketua pemberontak sudah hubungi Malaysia #1
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batusembilan posted on 22-7-2014 08:39 AM
nasib baik la ada org malaysia yang tubuh tinggi jugak.....
Besonye ketua diorg eh... kalau aku cam takutttt. Wakil kita nampak relaks je... salute! |
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scorpionkiki posted on 22-7-2014 08:36 AM 
Jom kita pujuk MAS toksah fly overseas untuk tahun ni..... sbb rasa ada orang nak kenakan kapal ki ...
uols ckp gitu tetibe iols teringat fb sharifar sofia smlm
yg katenye 2 MH akan jadi mangsa lagi
x kire la bohong ke hape
tp takut la jugak
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Nanti keluar lak speku, berapa najib byr borodai. As usual.... |
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fiza1 posted on 22-7-2014 08:39 AM
dengan muka kesian tu laa..najib berjaya runding dengan puak pemisah.
agak2 Najib buat video call ...
balik nnti dapat title Dato Seri la tuan colonel 
tahniah Dato Seri dan team
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the_killer posted on 22-7-2014 08:06 AM
Berdoa lah semoga mereka selamat.....
Sikap neutral kita sebenarnya yang memudahkan urusan rumi ...
betul. kita sbg negara yg bukan kuasa besar dunia, kena faham & masak mcm mana situasi politik dunia. Cakap baik2 & berunding selagi mana boleh.
kalau diikutkan, malaysia merdeka juga disebabkan kekuatan pejuang kemerdekaan dulu berunding dgn british... hehe
spt juga MH370.. nmpk mmg macam lembik, tp kebaikan dia malaysia masih tak cari gaduh dgn negara2 terlibat..
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siputsedut posted on 22-7-2014 08:36 AM
aku pun rasa mcm ukraine agak bermasalah kat sini...mcm saja nk buat drama..melambat-lambatkan penyi ...
setuju, patut dunia yg kecam ukraine..
tindakan lembap.. pasukan penyelamat dia dtg lokasi nahas, kumpul mayat mcm kumpul sampah (tony abbot kata). haha
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pagi2 dah rasa sebak bila tgk berita kat RTM1..berkat doa seluruh rakyat Malaysia pada bulan ramadhan yg mulia ni..good job najib.. |
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akusukaq posted on 22-7-2014 08:30 AM
Pg ni kt tv 3 ada ustat nasihatkan spy jenazah di kebumikan di sana tak perlu di bwk balik ke tanah ...
yup aku setuju.....sebab ni lebih mudah
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Contoh ummah berguna dlm malaysia..terharu 5 saat...tahniah dato seri.
Yang paling best ummah mulut busuk keyboard warrior menjilat kembali mucus mureka yang pekat lagi rich..alhamdulillah;) Last edited by famri7 on 22-7-2014 08:50 AM
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berusjamban posted on 22-7-2014 08:42 AM
Besonye ketua diorg eh... kalau aku cam takutttt. Wakil kita nampak relaks je... salute!
ofkos la rasa takut tu tetap ada
dh le delegasi kita tubuh kecik, x bersenjata pulak tu.....nyawa mmg hujung tanduk.
lain la keyboard warrior........pungpang2 pun nyawa sendiri gantung 
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MH17 black boxes handed over by pro-Russia rebels
Malaysian officials receive flight recorders from downed plane in ceremony after 12 hours of negotiations
Shaun Walker in Donetsk and Harriet Salem in Torez
The Guardian, Tuesday 22 July 2014
Four days after the Boeing 777 came crashing down into the fields of eastern Ukraine, the black box recorders from flight MH17 were finally handed over to the Malaysians at a surreal night-time ceremony in Donetsk.
Almost 12 hours after negotiations between the so-called Donetsk People's Republic and a Malaysian delegation began, a group of somewhat bewildered looking Malaysians (?) were given the two black boxes – chunky devices which are in fact orange – by Alexander Borodai, the self-styled prime minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, in a late-night press conference guarded by dozens of Kalashnikov-wielding rebels, on the 11th floor of a government building in Donetsk that has been occupied by the rebels.
Before handing over the boxes, Borodai took the chance to insist again that the pro-Russia rebels in east Ukraine had nothing to do with the downing of MH17, and blamed the Kiev government, which he said had "both the technical ability and the motive" to bring down the plane.
Colonel Mohamed Sakri, part of the Malaysian delegation, thanked "his excellency Mr Borodai" for agreeing to the transfer, which came after Borodai spoke personally to the Malaysian prime minister by telephone earlier in the day.
Most western capitals have accused the pro-Russia rebels of bringing down the plane using a Buk missile, possibly brought to Ukraine from Russia. Sakri refused to take questions on who might be to blame for the tragedy, and said that after the mystery of MH370 it was important to recover the black boxes this time.
"We show to the people of Malaysia that we are so serious to make sure that these things are recovered for Malaysia," he said. The Malaysian delegation, having signed documents to recover the black boxes, hoped to leave "immediately", Sakri said.
Ukraine's security services had previously released recordings of what it said were rebel leaders coordinating a ground search for the black boxes and insisting that they not be given to international leaders, as Moscow wanted to get them first. The rebels denied that the recordings were genuine.
Earlier in the evening, a train of refrigerated carriages finally rolled out of the station in the rebel-controlled city of Torez carrying bodies collected from the crash site in recent days. Borodai said the train contained the bodies of 282 of the victims, as well as 87 "other body fragments", and said that it had arrived in Donetsk after leaving the station of Torez near the crash. This came despite heavy fighting in the area around Donetsk train station on Monday. Borodai said the train would be joined by Dutch forensic airports and depart "soon" to the Ukrainian-controlled territory.
Bound for the city of Kharkiv, the bodies' departure from the crash site is likely to bring a small amount of respite to relatives, after a chaotic and controversial clear-up mission complicated by a military conflict rumbling nearby, the summer heat and what at times has appeared to be deliberate obstruction.
During the day, a trio of Dutch experts, the first to reach the train holding the bodies, paused, hands clasped together and heads bowed, before clambering up to the grey train carriages to inspect the interior. One of the three, Peter Van Vliet, said the experience had given him goosebumps, despite the sweltering heat.
In a whispered conversation on the station platform, observers from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) urged the rebels to do everything in their power to speed up the process of moving the bodies out of the conflict zone
"This train must move today, it cannot wait any longer. It will not be good for anyone – not the experts, not the families, not you," Alexander Hug, deputy of the special monitoring mission to Ukraine, was overheard saying to the rebels.
At 7pm local time, the train did indeed pull out of the station. When the bodies reach the Ukrainian-controlled city of Kharkiv, it is expected that the bodies of the victims will be loaded onto a transport plane and flown back to the Netherlands as soon as possible. The Malaysian delegation confirmed that all the bodies would be flown to the Netherlands, and would only then be sorted by nationality.
There is much work still to be done in Donetsk and at the crash site itself, but renewed fighting near the city's train station between pro-government forces and rebels, which left several civilians dead on Monday, provides an additional obstacle for any international experts trying to reach the site.
Getting appropriate permissions for international experts to enter the war-torn region has proved problematic. Michael Bociurkiw, a spokesman for the OSCE, called the process a "logistical nightmare". The three Dutch specialists, who travelled from Kharkiv, said that they had been accompanied part of the way by the Ukrainian army before being passed over to an escort of rebels.
Monday's violence made Donetsk an even more daunting venue to travel for international experts hoping to examine the MH17 crash site. The city's mayor advised all residents to stay indoors, the streets were largely deserted and there were reports that damage to infrastructure meant that the city would run out of water in a matter of days.
While the rebels have been heavily criticised for blocking access to the crash site, it was the Ukrainian army that seemed intent on disrupting expert work on Monday, as they apparently launched an offensive against rebel positions close to Donetsk railway station, as well as in other towns across the region.
The Ukrainian authorities said they were not targeting residential areas. "We are coming to the city, special assault groups are working there," Vladislav Seleznev, spokesman of anti-terrorist operation, told the Guardian. "Within city boundaries we are not using heavy artillery," he added.
However, there were a number of cases where what appeared to be Grad rocket fire had landed in residential areas. At one school building near the railway station terrified locals hid in the basement all morning, and two men were killed by shrapnel in the playground. A local named Sergei, who lives near the school, said he had helped to load dead bodies onto a truck provided by the rebels.
Adding to the sense of chaos, Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for Ukraine's national security council in Kiev, denied that the Ukrainian army was responsible for explosions in central Donetsk but said small groups of partisans could be engaging the rebels.
"We have strict orders not to use air strikes and artillery in the city. If there is fighting in the city, we have information that there is a small self-organised group who are fighting with the terrorists," he said.
The Ukrainian president ordered a ceasefire across a 40km (24 mile) radius from the crash site, but this does not include Donetsk, which is farther out.
The fighting near the station was an "added complication" for moving the train with the bodies, said the OSCE. They also said the body bags inside the train were tagged using a numbering system and stored at a temperature between 0C and -5C. Experts from several countries including the UK are in Kharkiv. The Dutch prime minister, Mark Rutte, said the swift return of the bodies was his "number one priority" at a news conference on Monday.
With most of the bodies now removed from the site, attention will turn to the other tasks of the crash investigation, most importantly attempting to find some proof of what exactly brought the plane down.
David Gleave, a former aviation safety investigator, confirmed that pictures appeared to show shrapnel damage from a missile to a section of fuselage from the stricken aircraft. "The markings are consistent with something external hitting the aeroplane," he said, describing the indentations as indicative of a missile strike.
"It looks like there are markings on the external to the internal of the aircraft, meaning it's not a bomb blowing outwards. That's not the main bit where the missile hit, it's the periphery of the explosion. It looks like secondary damage."
In spite of the delay in investigators arriving at the crash site, Gleave said it would still be possible to trace the manufacturer of the missile by forensically examining bits of wreckage and human remains for chemical traces.
"I'm not convinced [the contamination of the crash site] is quite as bad as people say. If it's a missile then all the conventional stuff we need for data-gathering goes out of the window. A black box isn't going to tell you it was a missile," he said.
The cleanup operation, which has been roundly criticised by the international community who fear pro-Russia rebels are contaminating the site to cover up signs of their involvement, was cautiously praised by Van Vliet, at least when it came to the collection of the bodies.
Given the hot weather, the size of the crash site and the military operations going on in the vicinity, the operation was "very difficult" and he was impressed with the efforts of local emergency workers and volunteers, who have spent three days sifting corpses and body parts from the crash site. He added though, that the area needed a "full, forensic sweep" by proper experts. |
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kazaraf posted on 22-7-2014 08:46 AM
betul. kita sbg negara yg bukan kuasa besar dunia, kena faham & masak mcm mana situasi politik dun ...
sebab tu aku kata,....Malaysia tak perlu ikut telunjuk US ka..telunjuk Russia ka..Pemberontak ka...Hubungan Persahabatan tu yang penting...kita bersahabat dengan US,,....kita bersahabat dengan Russia...Kita bersahabat dengan Ukraine...kita tak perlu jadi sekutu..mana2 Kuasa Besar...Dasar Hubungan Luar kita adalah Berbaik2 kepada Semua Negara...
dalam kes ni..sikap Malaysia tidak menunding jari kepada mana2 pihak telah menyebabkan operasi diplomasi mudah...harap2 mereka dapatlah balik ke Malaysia dan disiasat oleh Penyiasatan Antarabangsa. Biarlah Negara yang tidak berkepentingan yang menyiasat dalang kes ni.
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johnazizul posted on 22-7-2014 08:43 AM
Nanti keluar lak speku, berapa najib byr borodai. As usual....
yg ini mmg aku sedang jangkakan dan tunggu2 hahaha 
dan aku boleh agak sapa yg akan mulakan
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akusukaq posted on 22-7-2014 06:30 AM
Pg ni kt tv 3 ada ustat nasihatkan spy jenazah di kebumikan di sana tak perlu di bwk balik ke tanah ...
ye la kan...tp rmi famili request soh bwk blk..
kalo tanam kat sana...camne la gaknya proses nya tu...
kalo yg btl2 islam...ade ke rakyat islam kat sana yg bole uruskan..
serba salah gak kan...
tp dlm islam mmg suruh segera tanam x leh tangguh2 ...
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batusembilan posted on 22-7-2014 08:39 AM
nasib baik la ada org malaysia yang tubuh tinggi jugak.....
yg maba satu org kita yg tunggi tu? yg tgh belek black box kaler merah tu ke? |
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fifie_olin posted on 22-7-2014 08:53 AM
ye la kan...tp rmi famili request soh bwk blk..
kalo tanam kat sana...camne la gaknya proses nya ...
kat belanda sana pun ada komuniti org r islam. dont worry much about that. muslim cemetry pun mesti ada. sementelah kita ada hantar 10 org imam dlm misi ni. jadi hal pengurusan pengkebumian org islam bukan masalah besar. cumanya iols rasa family mangsa mesti nak all the bodies of their loved ones be brought back to tanahair. dah mmg tipikal org kita mcm ni la. still x boleh accept mayat dikebumi di tanah asing melainkan mekah gitu. Last edited by pittjie on 22-7-2014 09:04 AM
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Quote of The day
sometimes, we must work quietly in the service of a better outcome.- Najib
waktu dia cakap ayat ni semalam, aku terus terbayang PM Aus, Belanda, Obama yg duk marah2 dkt Putin. |
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batusembilan posted on 22-7-2014 08:57 AM
ye betulllll..........yg tgh dok belek blackbox merah tu.......check tulen ke tiruan ke hahaha :lo ...
sempat lg ko kait kan jawa. MN peyno apakah? kikiki
eh tp x tipu ... kezen2 aku yg jawa ada je yg rupa persis kokosyen tau. |
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Post time 22-7-2014 08:42 AM
