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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) THE PROPHET OF ISLAM

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Post time 29-8-2006 04:22 PM | Show all posts
you haven't answered my question...
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 Author| Post time 29-8-2006 04:31 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 04:22 PM
you haven't answered my question...


My answer is in my question to you.
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Post time 29-8-2006 04:31 PM | Show all posts
1) Being Hebrew male infants, both Moses and Jesus
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Post time 29-8-2006 04:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 04:12 PM

the question is that, is Jesus a God when he was on earth? yes or no? simple as that


so what is he when he was on earth...?
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Post time 29-8-2006 04:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ussopp at 29-8-2006 04:49 PM


so what is he when he was on earth...?

human with godly nature?
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Post time 29-8-2006 04:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 04:53 PM

human with godly nature?


it means whatever human form he is he is still the god right....???

so...
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He was God but Moses is not. Its what im saying, they are different[\quote]
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 Author| Post time 29-8-2006 05:03 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 04:31 PM
1) Being Hebrew male infants, both Moses and Jesus
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:03 PM | Show all posts
tell me ussopp, what do you understand by the meaning of godly nature.
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 29-8-2006 05:03 PM


I have given u also the similarities between Moses and Muhammad. Anyway u havent answered to me when was Jesus considered as God ?

the similarities that you gave in reply #146 is all about jesus is god that's why he cannot be the prophet. but haven't i already tell u that what jesus did was for the prophecy? jesus is considered as god when he's raised to the heaven.
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 Author| Post time 29-8-2006 05:07 PM | Show all posts
jesus is considered as god when he's raised to the heaven.


But Moses is not considered as God after he died.
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:10 PM | Show all posts
is moses even considered god in the first place ah? jesus was god before he came down to earth as a human with godly nature.
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 Author| Post time 29-8-2006 05:15 PM | Show all posts
is moses even considered god in the first place ah? jesus was god before he came down to earth as a human with godly nature.  


What are u confusing here? The fact is for Christians Jesus is God, but Moses is not a God. This alone can throw out Jesus from that prophecy in 18:18. Because Jesus is incomparable to Christians coz he is considered God. Get my point? You cant compare God with any human. But you can compare human to human.
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:18 PM | Show all posts
jesus came down to earth as a human with godly nature. he came down to earth as a mediator between the people in earth and the God in heaven.
"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 Timothy 2:5
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:37 PM | Show all posts

okay...

Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 05:03 PM
tell me ussopp, what do you understand by the meaning of godly nature.


simple, hes good... or has the god  quality...if im wrong tell me yours....

no offence im a leaner...
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posted by weedkiller
jesus is considered as god when he's raised to the heaven.

posted by wedkiller
jesus was god before he came down to earth as a human with godly nature.



no matter when jesus was god, i think moses has never been a god and will never consider as god in any time line....

so its valid to say jesus was god but moses is not...
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:43 PM | Show all posts
Yes Jesus was God before he came down to earth. But he humbly came as a human with godly nature to earth, to serve mankind and to redeem their sins. And when he died and raised to heaven 3 days later he became God again. When he's on earth as a human, why can't he be compared to Moses?
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:49 PM | Show all posts

status...

he can be compared to moses if the god status changed...
was the status changed...???
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 Author| Post time 29-8-2006 05:50 PM | Show all posts
Yes Jesus was God before he came down to earth. But he humbly came as a human with godly nature to earth, to serve mankind and to redeem their sins. And when he died and raised to heaven 3 days later he became God again. When he's on earth as a human, why can't he be compared to Moses?


But Moses wasnt God before he came to earth and he didnt became God after he died. How could you compare God and Human? Are you desperate here ?
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Post time 29-8-2006 05:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 29-8-2006 05:50 PM


But Moses wasnt God before he came to earth and he didnt became God after he died. How could you compare God and Human? Are you desperate here ?

Jesus being God in heaven has nothing to do with Moses. Moses was on earth as a man, so we compared him to Jesus as a man when he was on earth. Don't understand simple common sense?

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form. Collosians 2:9


after he's resurrected from the dead before ascending to the heaven he still has a bodily form.

They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."  Luke 24:37-39

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Post time 29-8-2006 06:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 05:55 PM

Jesus being God in heaven has nothing to do with Moses. Moses was on earth as a man, so we compared him to Jesus as a man when he was on earth. Don't understand simple common sense?



after  ...


i have a question...?
when you compare jesus when he was on earth, what kind of man he was...? a "human man" or a god in human form???
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Post time 29-8-2006 06:28 PM | Show all posts
Jesus is God and he came to earth to become a human to serve mankind, so he's God in human form and is still bound to the limitations of man. For example:

Jacob's well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about the sixth hour. John 4:6


this shows that Jesus is a human and can feel tired. and is also subjected to other trials, like being tempted by Satan, feel pain when he is lashed and so on.
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