What Soora 2:23 really says to SFE Talk?

Debmey

Yes Fuzzy, Where are the objective criteria for the challenge? I'm still waiting. Its been so long.

sonny~~

there goes the buzzin agin bout "no objective criteria for that sura challenge" etc.  hehe  

wot can one expect from a pious trinity donkey who couldnt differentiate between god (whos formless) n man (who can shit pizz n die) n ghost/spirit (whos shadowy)?  no hard feelin.  jest HARDreality  :bg:

peace

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-9 04:18 PM:
Yes Fuzzy, Where are the objective criteria for the challenge? I'm still waiting. Its been so long.

So what is your defination of the objective criteria? The reason you've been waiting so loong is because you cannot tell us what you mean by the defination of "objective  criteria" How about trying it out now? So talk away SFE Talk! LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Criteria that can be measured objective, its as simple as that.
At least you admit you have yet to show us any objective criteria for the sura like it challenge.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-10 11:44 PM:
Criteria that can be measured objective, its as simple as that. At least you admit you have yet to show us any objective criteria for the sura like it challenge.

Wrong understanding again from you. Allow me to educate you once again.

WHAT OBJECTIVE CRITERIA MEANS?

In the case of Objective.

Taken from The American Heritage

Debmey

So where are the objective criteria for the challenge? Where?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-11 12:19 AM:
So where are the objective criteria for the challenge? Where?

it is of no wonder that you get trampled upon most of the times because you cannot even see the elephant that's staring you right between the eyes! LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-11 12:19 AM:
So where are the objective criteria for the challenge? Where?

First of all ask yourself this question : Do you know what means "objective criteria"?

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

criteria that can be objective measured. So where are the objective criteria for the challenge? I'm sorry but a couple of cut and pastes dictionary terms won't help you. hahahahahahahahahaha..................

cheers

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-11 12:35 AM:
criteria that can be objective measured. So where are the objective criteria for the challenge? I'm sorry but a couple of cut and pastes dictionary terms won't help you. hahahahahahahahahaha....... ...

Really. But they do prove just one thing. They show that you so not know what OBJECTVE CRITERIA means? If you did we would not be going onto page twelve. LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

So where? Where are the objective criteria for the sura 2:23 challenge?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-11 01:04 AM:
So where? Where are the objective criteria for the sura 2:23 challenge?

First of all we need to have a common agreement on the meaning of "objective criteria". Are we in agreement that objective criteria can be taken to mean the below:-

A standard or a test formulated on an observable phenomena; presented factually on which a decision can be made.

We cross this hurdle first before we go elsewhere.

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

First of all we need to have a common agreement on the meaning of "objective criteria". Are we in agreement that objective criteria can be taken to mean the below:-

A standard or a test formulated on an observable phenomena; presented factually on which a decision can be made.

We cross this hurdle first before we go elsewhere.

Come on SFE Talk aka Debmey, it's bad manners just making people wait on you. Don't tell me you can't even agree on such simple issues as the above?

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

yep agree, but include an objectively measurable element to it.
so where are the objective criteria for the challenge? solong still nooo criteria?

Fuzzman

SFE Talk wrote: yep agree, but include an objectively measurable element to it. so where are the objective criteria for the challenge? solong still nooo criteria?

so finally SFE Talk concedes that objective criteria would be taken to mean the below [remember this post guys before SFE Talk changes his fickle mind!]:-
A standard or a test formulated on an observable phenomena; presented factually on which a decision can be made.

With that settled, SFE Talk  should therefore take the Quran as the " objectively measurable element" to which he will base his self-made challenge although Fuzzman takes the 2:23 to be only an invitation to doubtors.

The objective criteria of the 2:23 has always been this:-
" To create a chapter in likeness to any chosen soora with the assistance of your helpers from your faith who are directly your witnesses if and when you are in doubt that the Quran was not from Allah but the creation of Prophet Mohammad."

So please proceed with the next task of  creating a credibly authentic comparison or do you have some more questions?

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

LOL SFE Talk has once again just fizzled out and gone off-taste with Fuzzman. Fuzzman's always on the ready for you.

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Near a full day and SFE Talk isn't answering. Are you finally backing off from all the pressure? If you can't take on the heat no more, just raise the both of your hands real high where I can see em'. Then only will I sent in the paramedics to put you on life support. LOL

Been and will always be letting you know the same thing Mr SFE Talk - you just ain't no 2:23 material. And that's a fact boy!

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by Fuzzman on 18-1-2004 at 10:13 PM ]

Debmey

So finally, where are teh objective criteria for the 2:23 challenge? Where Fuzzy? Any Muslims wanna help him?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-1-18 10:22 PM:
So finally, where are teh objective criteria for the 2:23 challenge? Where Fuzzy? Any Muslims wanna help him?

I don't need no help from my Moslem brethren here because they know I'm doin' just fine on my lonesome doin' the thing I do best - i.e. takin' you down all the time where it hurts the most. From the looks of things in this thread, you don't seem to have much support from your Christian brethren do you? Any Christians wanna give SFE Talk a helpin' hand here? sorta easing his pain and making life as bearable as can be? LOL

So finally SFE Talk concedes that objective criteria would be taken to mean the below [remember this post guys before SFE Talk changes his fickle mind!]:-
A standard or a test formulated on an observable phenomena; presented factually on which a decision can be made.

With that settled, SFE Talk  should therefore take the Quran as the " objectively measurable element" to which he will base his self-made challenge although Fuzzman takes the 2:23 to be only an invitation to doubtors.

The objective criteria of the 2:23 has always been this:-
" To create a chapter in likeness to any chosen soora with the assistance of your helpers from your faith who are directly your witnesses if and when you are in doubt that the Quran was not from Allah but the creation of Prophet Mohammad."

So please proceed with the next task of  creating a credibly authentic comparison or do you have some more questions?

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by Fuzzman on 18-1-2004 at 10:37 PM ]

Debmey

Where? where are the measurable objectyive crtiteria you talked about? How do you measure likeness?