Tolerance.....how can we achieve it?

eastrun

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 5-7-2006 01:39 AM

Let me show you how Quran teaches you to "care" about others.

Qur抋n:9:5  So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them  ...

I have made the commentary about those verses in 'anybody wants to comment about this' thread.Feel free to read them to clarify yourself.

Originally posted by juwaini at 3-7-2006 05:10 PM


why did in this thread, relatively only small number of person posting here?
because this is not a holier that thou thread?
or because there's no clown?

Because there's no clown :lol

yusmar

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 5-7-2006 10:19 AM
by BeanDiesel   

yeah, and thn somebody will come and show intolerance in the Bible and all other books. Great, that's how we can acieve tolerance huh?  

You achieve tolerance by practising  ...

and you have every right to judge others is it? and you as a hindu is practising tolerance is it? At least I am trying to make a difference by not insulting your religion......what are you trying to do about it? Instead of wingeing about how bad Islam is.....why dont you tell us how your religion or you would do to achieve tolerance ?

as how i see it....you are not showing anything here except your disparaging remarks of Islam.......so much for enlightment.:no:

BeanDiesel

Originally posted by 13.Friday. at 7/4/06 10:24 PM


Because there's no clown :lol

No complaint necessary regarding this person's nick. I have reported it to Admins and SuperMods.

Originally posted by yusmar at 5-7-2006 03:04 PM


and you have every right to judge others is it? and you as a hindu is practising tolerance is it? At least I am trying to make a difference by not insulting your religion......what are you tryi ...

Hear hear!

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by yusmar at 5-7-2006 02:29 AM
Not one of you is a believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.
Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi 13

You hv to accept the fact that you lied when you claimed thisr -> -The Muslim Holy Quran teaches: 'No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.'

Maybe if you had said hadiths than i may agree.. bacause most of the hadiths are hearsays.. people can make-up stories to raise Muhammad's credibilities..

anyway who is an-Nawawi? are those hadiths authentic? where is the sorce?
when you say "his brother" who are they.. all humans or just muslims?

Originally posted by yusmar at 5-7-2006 02:29 AM
I have read a lot of books and no religion teaches anyone to be at war

obviously you have not read the quran.

Originally posted by yusmar at 5-7-2006 02:29 AM
Quran treaches muslims to be at war with non-muslims.

We are in Malaysia....and TOLERANCE is part of our Vision 2020.......why do we keep bringing up issues that would create detrimental arguments that would lead to name calling and religious bashing? Haven't we had enough ?

Yes we can tolerate but that does mean we must accept stupidities.

I can tolerate muslims screaming publicly using loud speaker 5 times a day.. irritating others by declaring that there is no other god but only thier god Allah. yes i can tolerate the muslim's nonsence of noise polution because their are victims of their arab masters. The poor people don't even know that Allah don't exist.

yusmar

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 5-7-2006 06:54 PM

You hv to accept the fact that you lied when you claimed thisr -> -The Muslim Holy Quran teaches: 'No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself
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Yes we can tolerate but that does mean we must accept stupidities.

I can tolerate muslims screaming publicly using loud speaker 5 times a day.. irritating others by declaring that there is no other god but only thier god Allah. yes i can tolerate the muslim's nonsence of noise polution because their are victims of their arab masters. The poor people don't even know that Allah don't exist.

well FaithHealer.....so much tolerance you have by saying the above.....by discriminating about others belief, by insulting ones religion.......but u know what.......i am not going to be like you.......filled with hatred for a religion that you know nuts about.....for a religion that you perceive you know but u actually  dont understand.

i deeply regret knowing that in Malaysia....exist this kind of feeling among Malaysians. so much for wanting peace and harmony when you yourself cannot give and take....so much for calling Islam all kinds of names when you yourself are not practising your true beliefs.

you have your views and i have mine.....and if this is the kind of world you want to live in.......by all means go ahead. when people have progress and evolve...you are still thinking about how it was then.....but you know what....thats your life....and when you see ppl progress.....you won't stop wingeing because you blame everyone else except yourself. you blame religion when it is actually u who stop your being  from growing.

thank you very much.......for you certainly have enlighten me about you.

[ Last edited by  yusmar at 5-7-2006 08:48 PM ]

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 5-7-2006 06:54 PM

You hv to accept the fact that you lied when you claimed thisr -> -The Muslim Holy Quran teaches: 'No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himse ...

: Ini rakyat Malaysia ke bukan ni? kang kalo aku bukak cite kang.......bole gaduh. ini jenis orang talk without thinking. No common sense

yusmar

Originally posted by Itsmylife at 5-7-2006 11:50 PM



: Ini rakyat Malaysia ke bukan ni? kang kalo aku bukak cite kang.......bole gaduh. ini jenis orang talk without thinking. No common sense

You don't have to create insult just because someone else insult us.......why do we have to stoop as low as them?

juwaini

Originally posted by yusmar at 6-7-2006 12:17 AM


You don't have to create insult just because someone else insult us.......why do we have to stoop as low as them?

yes, we're not idiot, we have decency..

Originally posted by juwaini at 6-7-2006 12:23 AM


yes, we're not idiot, we have decency..

yes, i know, tapi kengkadang dorang ni ikut sedap mulut je cakap, mengata ugama orang lain. cuba kalau kite cakap pasal ugama dorang, mulala dorang cakap Islam terroristla, Islam BS la....melenting lenting dorang.

actually, dorang cakap x srupa bikinla, they don't walk the talk.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by yusmar at 5-7-2006 08:47 PM
well FaithHealer.....so much tolerance you have by saying the above.....by discriminating about others belief, by insulting ones religion.......but u know what.......i am not going to be like y ...

Welcome to real world.

Do you think your azans are creating tolerance?

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by yusmar at 5-7-2006 08:47 PM
thank you very much.......for you certainly have enlighten me about you.

Now can you enlighten me. Where in your Holy Quran mentions anything similar to the Golden Rule that you paste in your first post.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by Itsmylife at 6-7-2006 12:43 AM
actually, dorang cakap x srupa bikinla, they don't walk the talk.

memang muslim yg bikin tak serupa bikin.

kononya agama "peace" tapi diseluruh dunia kita lihat muslims are going to "pieces".

Sephiroth

by yusmar   

and you have every right to judge others is it?

If you don't want to listen to the truth, then go and live in a jungle somewhere. ;)

As far as I know, three failed species - Christians, Muslims and Atheists have problem listening but they have no problem shooting their mouths. ;)

and you as a hindu is practising tolerance is it?

Yes - despite of history of Muslim invasions in India since 900 A.D, despite of Muslims STEALING Hindus' right to exist and educate themselves and despite of the Muslim government's attempt to undermine Hindus' Constitutional rights (for educations etc), Hindus are very tolerant to this day. WHY? Because they have God, Muslims do not. :no:

At least I am trying to make a difference by not insulting your religion......what are you trying to do about it? Instead of wingeing about how bad Islam is.....why dont you tell us how your religion or you would do to achieve tolerance ?

Islam IS evil. Period. I'm not doing anything to show how bad it it. Islam IS Evil and there is no need to show anything. :no:

As how i see it....you are not showing anything here except your disparaging remarks of Islam.......so much for enlightment.  

You're blind and TRAINED like a pig to see only good things about your own pathetic race and now how evil your race is. I will not have further discussion with trained chimps. Thank you.

juwaini

Originally posted by Itsmylife at 6-7-2006 12:43 AM


yes, i know, tapi kengkadang dorang ni ikut sedap mulut je cakap, mengata ugama orang lain. cuba kalau kite cakap pasal ugama dorang, mulala dorang cakap Islam terroristla, Islam BS la....melen ...

yang mengata dan menghina agama lain adalah orang bodoh yang tiada sifat toleransi dalam diri..
manusia dilahirkan dengan agama yang berbeza-beza, kenapa ketaksamaan itu tak kita wujudkan usaha untuk saling mengetahui antara satu sama lain kan?

juwaini

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 01:38 AM


memang muslim yg bikin tak serupa bikin.

kononya agama "peace" tapi diseluruh dunia kita lihat muslims are going to "pieces".

where?
the only thing that i've seen is how israel kills palestine citizen...
... and also USA illegally occupied afghan and iraq...

juwaini

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 01:13 AM

Now can you enlighten me. Where in your Holy Quran mentions anything similar to the Golden Rule that you paste in your first post.

that's hadith...

juwaini

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 01:06 AM
Welcome to real world.

Do you think your azans are creating tolerance?

why not?
we're in malaysia and islam is our official religion...
get your facts right dude...

juwaini

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 6-7-2006 08:26 AM
Islam IS evil. Period. I'm not doing anything to show how bad it it. Islam IS Evil and there is no need to show anything.

it's shame to read accusation like this..
stop ridiculing yourself... :gila: