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Originally posted by jaundice at 17-1-2009 11:38 PM 
First Noble Truth is that Life is Suffering. But don't you think that many people don't really suffer that much? They're not really bothered with small setbacks, and little pleasures make them pe ...
Dear Jaundie,
This is where Kamma comes in.
Whatever one experiences in this life is the results of every consciousness that arose in the past. (immediate or in the long past, even from past lives). Some people experience more hardship in this life, some people experience less hardship and less dukkha. People born in the western countries live like gods nowadays with riches, entertainment, powerful economies, etc.. as compared to people who live in some African country like Chad where boys will be kidnapped from 5 years old to carry weapon to become child soldiers, or girls be raped by soldiers in war-torn countries.
The degree of Dukkha varies. It also depends on the mental attributes of a person. Something that is perceived as Dukkha by one, might not be perceived as dukkha by others.
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Dukha tidak bermakna tiada suka/happiness. Tapi suka duka sering berganti....
orang kaya, banyak gewe keee, adakah mereka sering gembira dengan apa yang mereka dapat.? Orang miskin...adakah mereka sering menderita? ye... dari segi fizikal mungkin nampak mereka derita, dari segi rohani... x semestinya....Pandangan n pengalaman i je |
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Balas #19 tickmeoff\ catat
The current Malay Language has been Enlish-nized.
Everyone experience a degree of suffering regardless whether you are rich or poor.
There is no such thing a richman never experienced sadness, depression, worry and etc in their life.
Life itself is suffering. |
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Not sure of that term. But I guess it has similarity of belief that there is no life hereafter.. that we only live once, that our actions have no consequences., and that there is no reason to do good or to refrain from evil. Enjoy to the max, for tomorrow we die. 
In Buddhism, human existence is considered one of the Sugati (happy destination), being the results of good kamma from previous existence. All the pleasant things one experience is the result (vipaka) of their past Kammas. Even the quality of pleasant experience will depend on the manner how the good Kamma had been executed (whether with good roots, evil roots, etc). Some people can be rich, but they cannot enjoy their riches being born with mental problems, marital problems, health problems, etc . Some people can be rich, but the circumstance exists for them to enjoy their riches are there.
However, all good kammas, when their results (vipaka) have been reaped, would be undone. It's a matter of time when the good kammas would finish their effects. If a person does want to enjoy his life (nothing wrong with that literally), he needs to continue to do good things like giving donations, be generous and virtuous. But the problem is, when a person becomes a hedonist, he would disregard those teachings (who ask humans to do good things in all religions), and become irresponsible in conduct.
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Originally posted by Tillingtan at 14-1-2009 07:28 AM
Like Son of Odin wrote " You are the learned one".
I know a bit only lar... there are many who know more than me , but they choose to keep quiet ... those are the truly wise ones......
The arahants ... they would never be in the forum one.. all secluded in the forests, scared of merit hunters.... 
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According to Buddhism, is Mara just a personification of our desire, or is Mara real? Is Mara seperate, or part of us? |
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Originally posted by jaundice at 20-1-2009 11:11 PM
According to Buddhism, is Mara just a personification of our desire, or is Mara real? Is Mara seperate, or part of us?
Dear Jaundice,
Thank you for the question. Lots of things in buddhism you read especially from the western sources are the trimmed down version through the eyes of a western scholars, not practitioner. They really threw out all the metaphysical part of buddhism and write it as if it's only a philosophy. I would call it Buddhism 101, or western Buddhism. This type of buddhism is a very common type especially among intellectuals and atheists who would prefer to look at buddhism that way.
Now, Mara is being mentioned in the Buddhist suttas as actually a 'real person'. Some would put it that we all have our own 'internal Mara' and 'external Mara'. Internal Mara being our own attachment to sensual desire, and the external one would be the that troublemaker. Of course, in buddhist POV, it's definitely our task to conquer and defeat the internal mara.
The external Mara, or Mara himself, is seen as a troublemaker. He disturbed the Buddha at the night of Nibbana, and he also persuaded to buddha not to teach but to pass away peacefully into Nibbana. (he asked the buddha to die indirectly). He also went to many of Buddha's disciples taking forms of various beings to distract them. None of his efforts were successfully to the mindful disciples of the Buddha.
He is a deva (heavenly being).
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good information on dhamma, sometimes i also confuse |
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Originally posted by cabang at 21-1-2009 08:35 PM
good information on dhamma, sometimes i also confuse
Mara disturbed many noble disciples of the Buddha , but he got scared after the Buddha told him that he acquired lots of demerits by doing that. The good devas always have problem with Mara, if we look at other religion's scriptures, there is a well known trouble maker in the heaven too whom the devas cannot totally get rid of. (because Mara sits on the highest heaven and he has lots of peminat...) |
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may be heaven being also hv their own believe.....i hv heard from my muslim fren said 'Jin islam ..jin kafir'.. There are also wars there coz by religion?:@ :@ :@ :@ :@  |
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Tickmeoff..
Your inputs are very informative..
How did you begin your journey into Buddhism? |
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Reply #31 cabang's post
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I have read about it too. |
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Originally posted by cabang at 5-2-2009 11:23 PM
may be heaven being also hv their own believe.....i hv heard from my muslim fren said 'Jin islam ..jin kafir'.. There are also wars there coz by religion?:@ :@ :@ :@ :@
oh yes cabang... in the heavens there are many devas that do not care about anything except pleasures. In the suttas, some of the devas worship Mahabrahma too.
Some of them follow Mara , because Mara is one of the most powerful deva in the celestial realms, sitting on the highest heaven of "power over creation of others".
There are problems with Asuras also in the lower heavens (Travatimsa and 4 Young devas realms), and the Asuras will go to war with the devas once in a while to reclaim their rightful place in the Travatimsa heaven.
Devas do fight with each other , but it's very rare , and generally their existence is very peaceful, interrupted only by brief period of problems with Mara and Asuras. Otherwise, their existence is blissful. |
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Originally posted by Tillingtan at 6-2-2009 08:42 AM
Tickmeoff..
Your inputs are very informative..
How did you begin your journey into Buddhism?
Hard question to answer. Nothing happens without causes and conditions. I must have made some aspirations in the past lives to follow this path. A lot of things need to happen to a person before he could follow the Teacher's path. Started to be serious 3 years ago.
I am also very grateful to my parents who allow me to explore my own path in life, and who did not indoctrinate me with any religion from young.
How about you?
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Reply #35 tickmeoff's post
still active here?  |
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From the Buddhist POV which heaven may be the Creator GOD live?  |
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Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 13-2-2009 12:26 PM
still active here?
not really, you? |
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Reply #35 tickmeoff's post
I have been "shopping" around.
My late mother who was born Buddhist but have very little knowledge on Buddhism. My late father different religion also have very little knowledge about his birth religion... they produce confused children.
May they be in peace and joy!
An experience I had when my mother was passing on brought me further in Buddhism. |
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Post time 18-1-2009 08:50 AM
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