Ucapan Hari Raya

kucingblue

salam,

kalau rasa macam tu,
kucingblue kena hayati apa makna "HARI RAYA" dan "MAAF".
rosaline08 Post at 14-9-2009 08:56

I only have a problem with "maaf zahir batin". i don't know, maybe because it's overused.

apology is not something that I take too lightly. It's not something that I'd just say without actually meaning it (unless when I'm being sarcastic).

I hate hearing people that don't even know me wishing me that. Contohnya bile aku gi jamuan hari raya kat LA, ramai gak orang aku tak kenal. Some would say "Selamat hari raya, maaf zahir batin". Maaf for what?

Even orang yang aku kenal pon, I still don't like it if they're not telling me what they are apologizing for. Seriously, if you want to apologize to me, you might want to be clear about what you're apologizing for. Even if you want me to forgive just in case you may have done something not nice to me in the past, it still takes more than "maaf zahir batin".

"Maaf zahir batin" to me is not a "greeting" per se, it shouldn't be.

Lagi satu ape maksud "zahir" dan "batin"? Luaran dan dalaman? I don't really understand why it should be used with "maaf". Enlighten me.

mbhcsf

I only have a problem with "maaf zahir batin". i don't know, maybe because it's overused.

apology is not something that I take too lightly. It's not something that I'd just say without actually ...
kucingblue Post at 14-9-2009 11:09

oh ..interesting hmm interesting

dear , that 's what is termed as "SOCIOLINGUISTIC" - the presumed norms  when you are within the  same culture group, it is thus the "presumed" statement / wishes/  you know that people who shared the same values could appreaciate.
It is not for us  ( at that time  , to think - o do i know you etc etc)
it is just like people
say

HOW ARE YOU
you'd say  I am good/ fine. how are you  ( cakap balik  kat dia , bukan thank you ,,,hehehe kan? )

so u do not have to think

tapi i ada pragmatik problem ni di mana i have to think before jawab how are you ..i asked hmm..in what way,  hahahahaaa do you mean

obelisk

Ini bukan ucapan raya... mau penampor gamaknya...
bintang Post at 14-9-2009 09:27

kenapa sampai nak kene penampor? tu kan salah satu taktik romantis yang digunapakai mr darcy untuk menambat hati lady elizabeth..

ctaz

kucingblue

HOW ARE YOU
you'd say  I am good/ fine. how are you  ( cakap balik  kat dia , bukan thank you ,,,hehehe kan? )

so u do not have to think
mbhcsf Post at 14-9-2009 11:16

urgh, i hate that too. some people would say "how're u doing" or "how is it going" or something like that as if it's "hi". they don't even look like they expect an answer.

yeah, i always have a problem with social norms.

mbhcsf

urgh, i hate that too. some people would say "how're u doing" or "how is it going" or something like that as if it's "hi". they don't even look like they expect an answer.

yeah, i always have  ...
kucingblue Post at 15-9-2009 10:57

well ..would want to know this "pragmatic  impairment" - well i am not saying that you are having this but in my case if you are part of communication lecturers or scientist ? ker ? well errkkk..then well.....they will find this rather amusing / interesting actually... as some people would call it lain padang lain  something ( i lupa )

mbhcsf

urgh, i hate that too. some people would say "how're u doing" or "how is it going" or something like that as if it's "hi". they don't even look like they expect an answer.

yeah, i always have  ...
kucingblue Post at 15-9-2009 10:57

well, in a way , in a sense they are humans..part of being human i guess...is the need to communicate even my ayang said love = communication...anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

sunsuria3

kalau belah utara masa salam ni cukup panjang dialognya....minta ampun kalau ada salah silap.kalau terkasar bahasa....minta halal makan minum selama ni...ni partly aja ada lagi panjang meleret2...

obelisk

... as some people would call it lain padang lain  something ( i lupa )
mbhcsf Post at 15-9-2009 15:09

lain padang lain rumputnya....eh salah, belalang kot.....hmmm

blastoff

kalau belah utara masa salam ni cukup panjang dialognya....minta ampun kalau ada salah silap.kalau terkasar bahasa....minta halal makan minum selama ni...ni partly aja ada lagi panjang meleret2...
sunsuria3 Post at 15-9-2009 18:34

blastoff

jemputlah beraya di rumah..
asmert088 Post at 12-9-2009 11:19

tak yah mai rumah tak dak sapa semua balik kampung

bintang

tak yah mai rumah tak dak sapa semua balik kampung
blastoff Post at 15-9-2009 19:31

kesian lah pulak..

bintang

kenapa sampai nak kene penampor? tu kan salah satu taktik romantis yang digunapakai mr darcy untuk menambat hati lady elizabeth..
obelisk Post at 14-9-2009 12:14

Pulak dah... malas nak mengarut dengan kamu...

sunsuria3

30# blastoff

kau gelak ah...bayangkan orang yg tunggu turn nak salam ni..nak tunggu habis dialog drama ni punya satu hal berdiri aja tangan dah siap hulur nak salam orang depan tak habis2 lagi dialognya...tu baru sorang ...orang yg disalam tu pulak? dialog dia pun lebih kurang gak...dia punya turn pulak satu hal lagi nak menunggu...ada lagi skrip tu tak lengkap minta ampun dari hujung rambut sampai hujung kaki...lupa nak masuk ayat2 ni...now dah tau dah patern dia orang ni... bila nak berangkat aja i bangun salam dulu...minta ampun ya..tok cik, gitu lah so i salam semua orang tua2 tu dulu then tunggu kat luar...punya lah lama..so kalau satu hari beraya tu dari pagi sampai petang tu tak sampai 5 rumah pun...dok bersembang dah sekian lama..tanya kabar.. anak tu buat apa anak si polan tu kat mana?....sabar je...sib baik tahun ni raya pertama kat utara dulu so ikut adatnya rumah sape raya pertama petang raya dah balik rumah satu lagi...selamat lah tak yah pi raya rumah saudara mara jauh2 tu...raya on my side sempoi aja selamat hari raya...maaf zahir batin...udah..kadang salam aja..

pisang_goreng

penyapu

35# pisang_goreng

gambar kartun mcm nk sambut tahun baru cina je

savanna7

apa2 je lah...janji niat mau kena betul

blastoff

bayangkan orang yg tunggu turn nak salam ni..nak tunggu habis dialog drama ni punya satu hal berdiri aja tangan dah siap hulur nak salam orang depan tak habis2 lagi dialognya ...tu baru sorang ...orang yg disalam tu pulak? dialog dia pun lebih kurang gak...dia punya turn pulak satu hal lagi nak menunggu sunsuria3 Post at 15-9-2009 22:32

sama macam aku kena beratur kat cashier jaya jusco sebelum raya menunggu berderet kaki shopping kat depan yang borong bertroli -troli penuh barang letak satuuu-satu di atas kaunter  boring gila weh :kant:

...ada lagi skrip tu tak lengkap minta ampun dari hujung rambut sampai hujung kaki...lupa nak masuk ayat2 ni sunsuria3 Post at 15-9-2009 22:32

actually scene gitu sepatutnya di buat dengan family sendiri , mak ayah adik kakak abang tiap-tiap hari dok jumpa dan bergaul maka mesti ada terguris rasa terkasar bahasa segala , kalau nak detail minta maaf aku rasa dua minggu tak habis hitung dosa sesama family sendiri  , tapi selalunya orang mintak maaf cara express aje bila kat family sendiri kan . Yang tak pernah jumpa melainkan setahun sekali pulak jadi berleret-leret gitu :cf:

...now dah tau dah patern dia orang ni... bila nak berangkat aja i bangun salam dulu...minta ampun ya..tok cik, gitu lah so i salam semua orang tua2 tu dulu then tunggu kat luar...punya lah lama..so kalau satu hari beraya tu dari pagi sampai petang tu tak sampai 5 rumah pun...dok bersembang dah sekian lama..tanya kabar.. anak tu buat apa anak si polan tu kat mana?....sabar je...
sunsuria3 Post at 15-9-2009 22:32

terutama orang-orang tua , memanjang sembang bab pencapaian anak-anak, cerita anak berjaya aje, anak yang kerja kuli buat-buat tak wujud ..... kita tak pernah jumpa anak dia seumur hidup pun dia kalut cerita detail-detail pulak tu anak gi oversee gaji 4 ribu rumah banglo baru beli bla bla bla punya bangga macamlah dia boleh bawak harta benda anak dia tu masuk kubur sekali padahal anak dia pun duduk jauh nuuuh bukan selalu boleh mai tengok dia pun  

blastoff

nak raya berpusu-pusu orang islam masuk court dengan rela hati ............................. court mammoth   rumah depa barang semua bertukar baru bersinar-sinar memancar, lepas raya tiga empat bulan kena tarik balik sebab tak bayaq

sunsuria3

38# blastoff

la sungguh na cite hal anak2 tak habis2 kan...tapi tak adalah yang career bagus je semua cite...tu yg jadi lama..i senyap je..bila orang tanya jawab..sbb saya tak kenal pun sape2 yang dibincangkan...baca paper boleh repeat 2 kali lah he he...tapi kan dia tu pun jumpa setahun sekali je..masa tu lah tanya hal masing2..biark pi lah asal bahagia...

ada mak sedara husband tanya hang anak berapa? saya jawab 4, 2 lelaki 2 pompuan...ish pandai hang no..patut hang jadi cikgu matematik anak hang pun tersusun baguish...