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Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-12-1 12:52 AM:
Where are the objective criteria and who gets to be judge of this competition? Show us good ones and I will beat the Quran on the spot. So what are you fellas waiting for?
I'll show you a good one. You can start by showing proof that the 2:23 is a really an issuance to a challenge and that the gist of the 2:23 speaks ONLY OF A CHALLENGE and nothing else.
So what are you waiting for?
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fuzzman, ada faedah ker terang kan bende2 nie kat debney n the rest? dorang belh terima ker? dis is one sensitive issues to talk bout n we will never agree upon each other... dorang takkan bleh faham, agama pon da berlainan kan? saya sangat sedih dan agak tertekan bila tau ada orang guna theard utk. kondem agama masing2...cuba lihat apa yang telah diperkatakan oleh kedua2 pihak?
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kenapa tak biarkan apa yang mereka percaya? jika discus lebih mendalam pasal agama ker...bertanyakan soalan ker atau apa yang boleh meningkatkan pengetahuan tentang agama saya tak kisah malah amat bersyukur lagi, tapi ini tidak..kondem tentang sesuatu perkara yang teramat sensitive utk dibincangkan...saya tidak memihak kepada mana2 pihak cuma saya rasa lebih selesa berbicara tentang hal ini ngan saudara fuzzman, itupon kalau sudi terima pandangan saya...terima kasih...
saya tak tau laa nak cakap benda nie kat saper sebenarnya tapi memandangkan saudara fuzzman arif tentang hall ini...so saya harap dgn cara nin dpt membantu .... |
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Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2004-12-8 12:29 AM:
I'll show you a good one. You can start by showing proof that the 2:23 is a really an issuance to a challenge and that the gist of the 2:23 speaks ONLY OF A CHALLENGE and n ...
Where? Where is the objective criteria? Please show me. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 6-1-2005 07:22 AM:
Where? Where is the objective criteria? Please show me.
because u cant answer it  |
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How can anyone join the competition when there are no objective criteria.
I may produce a great verse but how can we tell whether I won or lost if their is no objective criteria to compare? We nee Fuzzman around here. He left a trail of shit on this forum and never bothered to pack up his shit before disapearing.
Perhaps I can't blame Fuzzman cos he was born a muslim and get stuck in thsi shit that eh cannot get out w/o abandoning his faith. |
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howabout u posting shits and lies? |
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It may sound better that suras in the Quran for all you know.
You see, w/o objective criteria, even shits can sound better than Quran.
So where? Where are the objective criteria for the competition? |
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I am only showing yu the truth abt the Quran, so how can I be lying? |
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1. by narrow interpertation of the quranic verses
2. u posted lies before, so your words are no good |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 7-1-2005 12:24 PM:
I am only showing yu the truth abt the Quran, so how can I be lying?
you don't lieall this time about the qoran and islam? you must be living in the cloud nine then. you only think what you said is right.you cannot accept the truth. |
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How did I possibly lie? If the Quran is so great, why does it need to be tested?
If the Quran is real, why are Muslism shying away from spelling out objective criteria for the competition? Is it because they are scared that the Quran will lose? |
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I'm back Debmey, so I guess that ends your romp in my sandbox. Now from what I've been reading from the guys that had been posting way up, you still fail the simple task of saying what needs to be said on the issue of the Objective Criteria, of which you had chosen to be very much evasive over. The request from them are simple and yet you choose to dwell and mull over issues that aren't even pertinent to the subject at hand.
Why don't you tell us all why the soora 2:23 fails as a objective criteria and how is it that you perceive the soora 2:23 of being a challenge when it really isn't ? I can sorta gauge the kinda reply I'm gonna get from you but I'll let it roll for the time being. Give you a handicap sorta, if you will, in coming up with a tsunami of a reply.
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objective criteria., a criteria that is reasonbale and objective ie. measurable.
Does the Quran provide any of these? |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-1-10 01:36 AM:
objective criteria., a criteria that is reasonbale and objective ie. measurable.
Does the Quran provide any of these?
You're still avoiding the question. Why?
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Originally posted by Debmey at 9-1-2005 07:36 AM:
objective criteria., a criteria that is reasonbale and objective ie. measurable.
Does the Quran provide any of these?
if we humans can understand the revelation perfectly, we dont need prophets as our guides rite  |
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Originally posted by Fuzzman at 9-1-2005 07:49 AM:
You're still avoiding the question. Why?
ARI FUZZMAN
he cant answer it |
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Originally posted by snipersnake at 2005-1-10 08:15 AM: he cant answer it
Surely he can't as revealed in Soora 2:24 because he cannot find probable cause to support his argument. This can only prove one thing. Quran is perfect and not written by Mankind. And Debmey is a lost cause every time.
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