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~MERGED~ Shamsiah Fakeh

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Post time 21-10-2008 01:44 PM | Show all posts
who care about PKM, PKR,
we talk about Shamsiah Fakeh
sekian terima kaseh
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 21-10-2008 01:03 PM
Yang mana yang tolak agama tu? Mana buktinya? Cabang komunis mana satu?

Ataupun sebab ko dengar/baca/tengok dalam BTN/National Geographic/TV Pendidikan/CD RM5.00/Ceramah Nordin Kardi/Ucapan Tun Mahathir yang komunis ni jahat dan tolak agama, terus ko percaya?


tadi ko juga cakap, komunismes ni ada cabang2, bila aku kata ada tolak agama

jadi, memang ada ler yg tolak agama, yg cabang2 kata selain drpd tu ko ler cari

UMNO tak payah bagitau jahat pon aku tak jahat

tu yg panjang2 tu, bila org kata komunis yg tolak agama, nak sembang komunis yg tak tolak agama
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 21-10-2008 02:01 PM


tadi ko juga cakap, komunismes ni ada cabang2, bila aku kata ada tolak agama

jadi, memang ada ler yg tolak agama, yg cabang2 kata selain drpd tu ko ler cari

UMNO tak payah ba ...


Penat dah aku nak bertanya...

Aku tanya ko akhir kali: Komunis mana yang tolak agama? Apa buktinya depa tolak agama? Memang dasar depa yang tolak agama atau depa mengubah dasar komunis depa untuk menolak agama?
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:06 PM | Show all posts
perginya seorang tokoh yg bersejarah
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:10 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 21-10-2008 02:04 PM

Penat dah aku nak bertanya...

Aku tanya ko akhir kali: Komunis mana yang tolak agama? Apa buktinya depa tolak agama? Memang dasar depa yang tolak agama atau depa mengubah dasar komunis depa untuk menolak agama?
The People's Republic of China was established in 1949. Its government is officially atheist, which viewed religion as emblematic of feudalism and foreign colonialism.
Religious belief or practice was banned because it was regarded as backward and superstitious by some of the communist leaders, from Vladimir Lenin to Mao Zedong, who had been critical of religious institutions.[6]
Houses of worship, including pagodas, temples, mosques, and churches, were converted into non-religious buildings for secular use during its early years. The Cultural Revolution led to a policy of elimination of religions; a massive number of places of worship were destroyed.
This policy relaxed considerably in the late 1970s at the end of the Cultural Revolution and more tolerance of religious expression has been permitted since the 1980s


suka sangat ko ni nak panjangkan cerita yer Juwaini walaupon ko sendiri pon dah tahu
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dafina at 21-10-2008 11:20 AM


Ye..itu yg aku nak tekankan gak...
bukan nak naikkan martabat Shamsiah Fakeh semata or komunisme...
tp nak tegaskan bahawa pejuang haluan kiri juga pejuang kemerdekaan...
jgn hanya pandang ...


itu la yg kit abincangkan kat sini tapi spt biasa those idiots mana paham...
otak mereka dah tak boleh nak pikir ikut banyak angle..hanya nampak satu jln jer pemikiran mereka...
just like robot or binatang??
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 21-10-2008 02:10 PM
suka sangat ko ni nak panjangkan cerita yer Juwaini walaupon ko sendiri pon dah tahu


Kalau jawab camni kan mudah. Ada bukti, ada fakta.. :re:
Kalau setakat sebut ada, tapi tak kasi bukti, budak sekolah pun boleh buat brader...

The People's Republic of China was established in 1949. Its government is officially atheist, which viewed religion as emblematic of feudalism and foreign colonialism.

Religious belief or practice was banned because it was regarded as backward and superstitious by some of the communist leaders, from Vladimir Lenin to Mao Zedong, who had been critical of religious institutions.

Houses of worship, including pagodas, temples, mosques, and churches, were converted into non-religious buildings for secular use during its early years. The Cultural Revolution led to a policy of elimination of religions; a massive number of places of worship were destroyed.

This policy relaxed considerably in the late 1970s at the end of the Cultural Revolution and more tolerance of religious expression has been permitted since the 1980s.


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Post time 21-10-2008 02:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by razhar at 21-10-2008 11:25 AM


dia mana pernah masuk tentera...dia cuma masuk bulan sabit je...dia dan 'sedara2' dia mana tahu tentang susah payah...dia tak tahu perit jadi anggota tentera....setakat duk kat setarbuk sambi ...


dah jadi tentera tak nak pegi perang..semua pakat nak lepak kat kem...buat apa jadi tentera??
sikit2 perit tentera..
dah itu keja depa...
buat apa nak komplen??
:re:
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:19 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 21-10-2008 02:16 PM
Kalau jawab camni kan mudah. Ada bukti, ada fakta.. :re:
Kalau setakat sebut ada, tapi tak kasi bukti, budak sekolah pun boleh buat brader...


buat apa ler aku nak bagitau, kalau terang2 ko dah baca post tu
lain ler takder org bagitau ko lagi Ju
sebab tu ler aku tak bg pon bukti kat ko, sebab ko dah baca pon bukti tu
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 21-10-2008 02:19 PM


buat apa ler aku nak bagitau, kalau terang2 ko dah baca post tu
lain ler takder org bagitau ko lagi Ju
sebab tu ler aku tak bg pon bukti kat ko, sebab ko dah baca pon bukti tu

:cool:

Aku suka baca hujah dan kupasan. Sebab fakta dan statistik bisa berdusta...
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 21-10-2008 11:33 AM
Secara jujurnya aku betul-betul pelik...

Kenapa depa tak habis-habis nak kaitkan ideologi komunis dengan fahaman tak percayakan Tuhan?

Memana ideologi (kecuali teologi) akan mengasingkan ko ...


kalau betul,
mati koma la kat USSR dan china dolu2 takde penganut islam segala katanya
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:23 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 21-10-2008 02:20 PM

:cool:

Aku suka baca hujah dan kupasan. Sebab fakta dan statistik bisa berdusta...


nasib baik ler yg bawa bukti tu org lain, kalau aku yg bawa mesti ada 100 soalan lagi menunggu

org yg menyokong Shamsiah Fakeh ni pon, teragak2 nak sokong komunis dlm pada masa yg sama

pakat2 kata, sokong Shamsiah Fakeh jer, PKM takder kena mengena
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by razhar at 21-10-2008 11:36 AM


aik tak tgk kat soviet dulu kaaa? ...mmg buta sejarah....


apa kau hengat islam , kristian tak wujud masa USSR dolu?? :re:
ker islam dan kristian hanya wujud di bekas2 wilayah USSR after runtuh nye USSR??:re:
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ashna at 21-10-2008 02:24 PM


apa kau hengat islam , kristian tak wujud masa USSR dolu?? :re:
ker islam dan kristian hanya wujud di bekas2 wilayah USSR after runtuh nye USSR??:re:


Lepas kerajaan Mikael Gorbachev tumbang, semua Muslim kat sana automatik dapat hidayah untuk masuk Islam kot..
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:30 PM | Show all posts

Balas #469 juwaini\ catat

mungkin juge
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:30 PM | Show all posts
Innalillah....Al Fatehah

Syamsiah adalah seorang nasionalis walaupun kendaraan perjuangannya berlainan.

Semangat perjuangannya harus dicontohi pemimpin hari ini.
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:31 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bluemenx at 21-10-2008 11:43 AM
korang kena racun dengan amarika kononnya kominis tu jahat ..
aku tetap nobatkan Shamsiah Fakeh sebagai SRIKANDI NEGARA !


kau jgn...
ada org tu kata kita masih tak paham pasal komunis katanya...
seolah2 mereka yg dok baca buku teks benar belaka faktanya
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:32 PM | Show all posts

Balas #467 DTECCONAN\ catat

begitu jua diamnya mereka yang menyokong British...risau kot2 dilabel sebagai talibarut Kristian
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:33 PM | Show all posts
nasib baik ler Nazi tak masuk Malaya

kalau Nazi masuk Malaya, dan tertubuhnya Parti Nazi Malaya dan menentang penjajah2 lain, dan menuntut kemerdekaan pon mesti dipuji juga
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Post time 21-10-2008 02:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mjla at 21-10-2008 11:50 AM
Sapa yg dok sokong idealogi komunis dan apa2 yg berkaitan dengannyer .....  pilah dok kat China tuh...

Senang kira...  mati sok kasi bakau jer....

Test dulu kat dunia neh seblm  ...


nampak sgt kau bodoh mcm babi...
babi pun tak bodoh mcm kau...
pernah baca otak babi sama ngan akal budak 4 tahun...
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