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Originally posted by mnm77 at 15-5-2007 07:58 PM
Fatwa Albani banyak dikritik hebat oleh ASWJ. Website tu tujuannya menyesatkan orang. Wajarlah beristighfar banyak2 kerana diperdaya dan percaya kesesatan website tu sampai menyesatkan orang ...
Sorry...Sheikh Albani is much better that the mufti from South Africa. I tak ikut mufti Afrika selatan yang berbangsa India yg bukan pengikut Sunnah. |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 15-5-2007 08:04 PM
Tak betul. Ada usaha dakwah di Makkah dan di Madinah dan Jemaah Dakwah dan Tabligh bergerak dari rumah ke rumah tanpa sekatan. Awak telah buat satu FITNAH LAGI. BERISTIGHFARLAH WAHAI SAUDARI....
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Proof it! Never heard such thing. |
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Reply #516 BikerLady's post
Sebab tak pernah dengar dah cukup kuat nak buat fitnah ke? |
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Originally posted by BikerLady at 15-5-2007 08:09 PM
Sorry...Sheikh Albani is much better that the mufti from South Africa. I tak ikut mufti Afrika selatan yang berbangsa India yg bukan pengikut Sunnah.
Satu lagi fitnah. You have to prove it! |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 15-5-2007 08:16 PM
Satu lagi fitnah. You have to prove it!
Dia lebih banyak membela kumpulan2 sufi yang tak pernah ada dalam Islam. Itu saja sudah cukup memadai yg bertentangan dengan sunnah. |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 15-5-2007 08:11 PM
Sebab tak pernah dengar dah cukup kuat nak buat fitnah ke?
Yes...you have to had a concrete evidence. Now you prove it! |
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Originally posted by BikerLady at 15-5-2007 08:26 PM
Dia lebih banyak membela kumpulan2 sufi yang tak pernah ada dalam Islam. Itu saja sudah cukup memadai yg bertentangan dengan sunnah.
Kamu percaya sufi tu sesat, lepas tu keluarkan fatwa sesatkan ahli sunnah. Memang ada sufi sesat tapi BUKAN SEMUA SUFI. Belum cukup untuk semudah itu buat kesimpulan.
By the way, I have to go for Jamaah prayer now..... |
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Originally posted by BikerLady at 15-5-2007 08:09 PM
Sorry...Sheikh Albani is much better that the mufti from South Africa. I tak ikut mufti Afrika selatan yang berbangsa India yg bukan pengikut Sunnah.
Bagi you dia bagus, tapi bagi orang Ulama lain tak semestinya....
As for al-Albaani, our view is that the knowledge of every person's inner conditions and intentions are best known to Almighty Allah. Hence, we cannot question his intentions and inner aspirations. However, what we wish to comment on is his method of compilation and outward impression. For this an entire and detailed treatise needs to be compiled. However,the crux of the matter is that many Ulama from around the world have spoken out vigorously against him and the attitude adopted by him in his writings. Whilst there may be many benefits in his works, there area lot of grave mistakes therein as well. And one may argue that thebenefit be taken and the mistakes be excluded. But, this is something that is only possible for the very learned and not for anyone and everyone. The condition of the Ummah today is that so much of liberalism has crept in that the basic teachings of Islam have also been forgotten. Hence, the majority of the Ummah are ill-equipped for the above theoretical solution. This is one of the many reasons why so many Ulamaa-e-Haqq have discouraged even reading his compilations. Note: This is just a brief explanation, as mentioned above. This topic needs an extensively detailed article whereby every aspect could been tailed. Kindly keep a watch on our website. We are busy preparing adetailed article on this topic. We hope Allah Ta'ala guides us and grant us the ability to complete it in the near future, Aameen. and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Moulana Muhammad ibn Moulana Haroon Abassommar
FACULTY OF SPECIALTY IN HADITH
CHECKED AND APPROVED: Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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Q: Who is shekh nasrudin Albani ? Is he a reliable ulama? Can we follow his fatwa? Do u have a detail of his biography ?
A: Some Ulama have regarded him to be deviated. The best is silence.
Mufti Muhammad Kadwa
FATWA DEPT.
CHECKED & APPROVED: Mufti Ebrahim Desai (Fatwa Dept.)
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=27f85d9a91516e388c44a40f544aa9d6
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=7ea4f9f96f986db7d9e992ca2c7e66e5
[ Last edited by mnm77 at 15-5-2007 10:09 PM ] |
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Originally posted by BikerLady at 15-5-2007 08:28 PM
Yes...you have to had a concrete evidence. Now you prove it!
psssttttt........Teman ghaser miker adalah calon yg baik utk bermuzakarah mengenai Isle Hadhari n 10 PRINSIP. |
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memang ade orang yg bertemu Rasulullah,
saya pernah jumpa org yg bertemu Rasulullah dlm keadaan jaga, perkara ini di ceritakan oleh ustaz yg ada dlm majlis tersebut. Org lelaki tersebut ade kat situ...tgh nangis,..
sedih. dlm majlis tu ade 3 org ustaz atau lebih...
majlis seperna Maulidur Rasul |
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Originally posted by matjan at 16-5-2007 08:40 AM
memang ade orang yg bertemu Rasulullah,
saya pernah jumpa org yg bertemu Rasulullah dlm keadaan jaga, perkara ini di ceritakan oleh ustaz yg ada dlm majlis tersebut. Org lelaki tersebut ade ka ...
fuyooh. hebat sungguh orang itu. para sahabat yg lebih tinggi tarafnya di sisi Allah pun tak seorang pun dari mrk dpt ketemu Rasulullah di waktu mrk kesusahan semasa perang Siffin & perang Jamal & semasa fitnah besar melanda umat islam di zaman khalifah. tapi dongeng2 YAQAZAH menceritakan Rasulullah turun utk mengubat perut wanita bengkak & bawak turun roti. Abuya Ashaari & geng2 YAQAZAH yg lain memang hebat....maka biarlah Tabligh & Al-Arqam dgn dunia Yaqazah mrk. |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 15-5-2007 10:03 PM
Bagi you dia bagus, tapi bagi orang Ulama lain tak semestinya....
As for al-Albaani, our view is that the knowledge of every person's inner conditions and intentions are best known to Almi ...
Nampaknya mufti u dari Afrika selatan ini tidak mampu memberikan fatwa yang meyakinkan. Kebenaran Sheikh Albani tidaj dapat dia kalahkan hujjahnya. Berilah khusus siapa dia 'some ulama' tersebut. Mungkin dia agak2 sahaja.
Ikut lah juga fatwa mufti u itu ie the best is to keep silence. Memang orang Tabligh tiada hujjah ataupun jahil ilmu. |
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Originally posted by niceghost2005 at 16-5-2007 07:33 AM
psssttttt........Teman ghaser miker adalah calon yg baik utk bermuzakarah mengenai Isle Hadhari n 10 PRINSIP.
What's wrong with Islam Hadhari?? U patuit faham antara urusan keduniaan dan keugamaan. not like Tabligh yang buat bidaah yang menyesatkan. |
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Originally posted by BikerLady at 16-5-2007 04:23 PM
Nampaknya mufti u dari Afrika selatan ini tidak mampu memberikan fatwayang meyakinkan. Kebenaran Sheikh Albani tidaj dapat dia kalahkanhujjahnya. Berilah khusus siapa dia 'some ulama' tersebut. Mungkin diaagak2 sahaja.
Ikut lah juga fatwa mufti u itu ie the best is to keep silence. Memang orang Tabligh tiada hujjah ataupun jahil ilmu.
Bagi yang tahu tertib berbincang masalah hukum hakam fatwa, Ulama sesama Ulama tidak akan tuduh sesat sewenang-wenangnya. Tambahan untuk orang yang bukan bertaraf Ulama, dinasihatkan berdiam diri. Biar Ulama yang menerangkan.
Sebab tu saya tidak mahu berkata lebih2 kepada Sheikh Al Albani (silent is best). Cukuplah saya menyatakan nasihat dan fatwa dari Mufti Ebrahim Desai. Kalau nak detail kenapa dan nama2 Ulama yang kata Albani tersesat, saya cadangkan pergilah email ke Madrasah tersebut. Semua maklumat ada di website:
http://www.askimam.org/
Kamu sudah memulakan cara berdebat dengan memasukkan emosi dan 'abusive' dengan membuat tuduhan orang lain jahil ilmu.
Harap bertenang dan teliti lah hadith berikut:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:
The Prophet said, "Whoever has the following four(characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.
1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.
2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.
3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.
4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner."
Bukhari
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Reply #528 mnm77's post
ya Allah, dasyat betul la B Lady n Tobby ! berani hina Maulana Zakaria n Jemaah Tabligh....aku nak tegur ckit,klu korang ni hati terbuka n ada sifat tawaddu' la...X payah la korang sibuk nak bg FATWA kat Tabligh n coz korang bukannya mufi, ilmu agama korang pun x la tinggi sgt,mcm aku gak....bg la golongan ulama yg tentukan....lebih baik korang pikir mcmmana nak bw org yg jauh dr agama dekat pd agama,org yg tak solat dtg pd solat,yg tak tutup aurat dpt tutup aurat. lg bagus.bw budak2 rempit,bohsia tu ke pangkal jln.....jumpa mereka face to face,pi rumah ke rumah mcm tabligh buat, amacam,ada BERANI? klu setakat kat forum ni sapa2 pun bole buat coz x nmpk muka,aku pun tak kenal korang,ntah islam ke? ntah yahudi ke? ntah dajjal ke? sapa pun tak tau korang,sama gak dgn aku....sory la klu terasa,aku ckp yg benar je.....kau buat dakwah kat sini,org yg baca je dpt ilmu dr ngko,org kat luar camne? sapa nak pi jumpa? nasib baik org tabligh nak jumpa,diorg tekan nafsu diorang untuk agama,susah payah,ko lepak depan com,buat fitnah,apa nak jadi?????sedih aku tgk org islam skang,bukan nak bantu,tp jadi....... |
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Originally posted by kayu_siwak at 17-5-2007 01:44 PM
ya Allah, dasyat betul la B Lady n Tobby ! berani hina Maulana Zakaria n Jemaah Tabligh....aku nak tegur ckit,klu korang ni hati terbuka n ada sifat tawaddu' la...X payah la korang sibuk nak bg F ...
aku tak hina sapa2. tapi aku tak suka dgn cerita2 dongeng dlm kitab tabligh yg mendustakan Rasulullah. sampai hati kitab tu dusta Rasulullah pegang perut wanita bukan muhrim. kalau korang boleh telan pendustaan semacam itu terpulang.... |
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Reply #530 tobby's post
minta maaf la klu terasa,berkenaan kitab Fadhail Amal tu,saya bukan nya org yg layak utk membahaskan,mempertikai dan mempersoalkan. ilmu saya amat jauh berbanding dgn maulana zakaria.....sekiranya tuan mempunyai pendapat sedemikian,dan saya faham niat tuan memang baik, sebaiknya tuan terus pergi ke Masjid Sri Petaling dan berjumpa dengan ustaz2 di sana utk berbincang dan membaiki sgala kelemahan yg ada. Insyaallah,ustaz2 d sana mempunyai akhlak yg tinggi dan mereka sedia utk berbincang.......bukankah cara ini lebih baik utk kebaikan umat islam semua? saudara Tobby tahu Masjid Sri Petaling di mana? |
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Reply #531 kayu_siwak's post
Salam kayu_siwak,
Saya setuju benar cadangan sdr. Kita menghormati sdr Tobby ni sebagai seorang ahli ilmuan dan ajak dia bermuzakarah dengan para Ulama/Ustaz di Masjid Sri Petaling.
Jazakallah khair |
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Reply #532 mnm77's post
Tabligh ada ulama ker? Yang aku tengok banyak kutu2 berhak saja. |
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Originally posted by kayu_siwak at 17-5-2007 01:44 PM
ya Allah, dasyat betul la B Lady n Tobby ! berani hina Maulana Zakaria n Jemaah Tabligh....aku nak tegur ckit,klu korang ni hati terbuka n ada sifat tawaddu' la...X payah la korang sibuk nak bg F ...
Saya setuju dgn saudara kayu siwak...,
tabliq mengajak org kpd Allah...berjumpa secara direct terus dgn manusia...,
kalau tak buat dakwah...saper lagi nak buat.....org yg mengata ker tabliq tu .., buat dakwah ke tidak..?
takkan syurga tu nak awak sorang je masuk...., org lain nak masuk juga... |
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