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Akti vaksin - wife minta dilepaskan #465

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Post time 27-5-2016 04:46 PM | Show all posts
Ksiannya ko tt..

Takde jalan tengah ke? kalau anak sakit biasa2 (demam, etc) boleh guna cara dia.. tapi vaccine yg wajib ambik tu kena ambik lah.. takleh ke gitu?

Jgn la berpisah sbb benda ni..kesian kat anak tu
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Post time 27-5-2016 04:49 PM | Show all posts
dino replied at 27-5-2016 04:41 PM
tp ade gak takleh relate t dgn salib... lain kata die...
dulu isu botol dettol tu... gambo ped ...

arghh sume tu bongok!
xde pegangan bg aku
senang2 je kna tipu

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Post time 27-5-2016 05:04 PM | Show all posts
Edited by cmf_blingblings at 27-5-2016 05:14 PM
dino replied at 27-5-2016 04:44 PM
klau sakit buatan org ka... saka ka... logik la jumpa bomoh....
wpun aku dah up skit..... tp bend ...

Aku masih ingat lagi aku kena tipu bulat-bulat dgn kak ipar aku few years back...Setiap kali mak aku balik kg singgah rumah dia mesti mak aku cakap, rimas betul duduk rumah dia. sakit mengalahkan mak aku yg dah tua... Kak ipar iolls masa tu dlm late 40th..kejap-kejap minta abang aku hantar dia pi hospital, masuk hospital pakar pulak tu, private faham-faham ajalah semalam berapa. Doktor cakap tak sakit dia minta doktor masukkan ke wad, nak rehat katanya.. Rupanya sebab nak jd modal cerita kat Datin-datin lain dia masuk hospital sesaja nak rehat, ko ada?

Tu belum lagi tuduh kawan buat sihir, setiap kali pi kerja tak boleh buat apa, even nak langkahpun tak ada tenaga. Aku ingat dia pi refer bomoh ke ustaz more than 5 tempat kot. Ofcoz abang aku raise his voice juga bila jd mcm ni sbb my brother jenis yg tak suka berubat mcm ni tapi lagi baik dari dia asyik minta hantar masuk private hospital.

Finally aku ada tanya kakak aku apa hal dgn kak ipar aku, sakit apa actually. Kak aku gelak besar, rupa abang aku cakap dia kena pre menopause symptoms. Woman oh woman.
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:07 PM | Show all posts
takde_rupa replied at 27-5-2016 04:46 PM
Ksiannya ko tt..

Takde jalan tengah ke? kalau anak sakit biasa2 (demam, etc) boleh guna cara dia. ...

Sesetengah orang mmg peliklah, just because of certain issues terus nak bercerai
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:09 PM | Show all posts
Clover_Hill replied at 27-5-2016 04:38 PM
Orang kalau dah fanatik berbomoh..kalau bole tiap saat nak pi bertunggu dan bertangga di rumah bom ...

You have the point here, omg
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:11 PM | Show all posts
cmf_blingblings replied at 27-5-2016 05:04 PM
Aku masih ingat lagi aku tipu bulat-bulat dgn kak ipar aku few years back...Setiap kali mak aku ba ...

adoii lucu nye ngn kak ipar akak..hahahah
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:20 PM | Show all posts
ni citer apa ni? malasnya aku nk reply...tp aku reply la gak sbb ada yg sebut2 psl hasut menghasut dlm rumahtangga.... aku refer yg WP sbb tuh area aku.

Akta Kesalahan Jenayah Syariah (Wilayah-Wilayah Persekutuan) 1997 (Akta 559), ada 3 seksyen yg memperuntukkan hukuman to org ketiga yg
1. memujuk lari perempuan bersuami,
2. menghalang suami isteri hidup bersama
3. menghasut suami isteri supaya bercerai atau mengabaikan kewajipan...

seksyen 36, 37 & 38....  ketiga2nya mula dgn "‘Mana-mana orang yang ......"

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Post time 27-5-2016 05:25 PM | Show all posts
bidacool replied at 27-5-2016 05:20 PM
ni citer apa ni? malasnya aku nk reply...tp aku reply la gak sbb ada yg sebut2 psl hasut menghasut d ...

syiok ada lawyer dlm board ni, boleh juga minta nasihat, rajin-rajinlah ko masuk Puan Bida, berbakti kpd yg memerlukan
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:25 PM | Show all posts
sambung lagi.... jangan pulak korang paham sebab ada 3 seksyen tuh, sesenang hati boleh saman orang kat Mahkamah Syariah. kisahnya di sini, kau perlu buat aduan kalu terasa diri tuh teraniaya, so org ketiga yang, yang, yang mcm kt atas tuh disiasat.. ada bukti kukuh baru la didakwa.... soal kt sini, ada hasutan or ajakan ke? isteri TT yang secara sukarela nak ikut fahaman jangan vaksin anak...
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:30 PM | Show all posts
cmf_blingblings replied at 27-5-2016 05:25 PM
syiok ada lawyer dlm board ni, boleh juga minta nasihat, rajin-rajinlah ko masuk Puan Bida, berbak ...

hi bling2....  aku bukan taknak masuk, tapi nnt aku stress fikir masalah orang sampai terbawak dlm mimpi... kononnya la..
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Post time 27-5-2016 05:46 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by munchkin at 27-5-2016 06:07 PM

Rapuhlah nya sebuah perkahwinan hanya kerana google search. Refer lah pada counselor/hakim/lawyer yang arif tentang kes unik ni. Mungkin dengan nasihat hakim or family counselor ke hapa masuk ke dalam benak wife you yg sangat pandai bijak kalah nobel prize winner. Yelah kita semua dlm ni bodoh bodoh belaka bak kata previous post you kan. Dia sorang jelah bijak pandai dalam donia ni ye kan cik puan.
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Post time 27-5-2016 08:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Pasal husband nak vaksinkan anak pun nak mintak cerai.. Apadaaaaa.. Obses melampau dah ni. Bak kata sapa tadi banyak lagi masalah lain yang isteri2 hadapi.. Kena abuse, husband curang & berzina, husband tribiawak etc etc. ko mintak cerai sebab tak sehaluan pasal vaccine je??????!!!!

Dah cukup baik husband concerned pasal anak & kesihatan dia.. Ni sampai menafikan hak anak.. Nanti anak yang tak vaksin tu jangan bagi dekat2 dengan baby kecik ye yg belum complete jadual vaksin dia ye.. Kang bawak penyakit kena pulak kat baby tu
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Post time 27-5-2016 08:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by bunnyhoney at 27-5-2016 08:37 PM
dino replied at 27-5-2016 12:09 PM
btul sgt2.... tak kisah la nak amalkan pemakanan sunnah ke apa.... kena ikut peredaran zaman.... k ...


Memanglah suami isteri kena salng hormat n jaga perasaan masing2... tapi dalam.kes tt nampaknya isteri dia plak xtahu jaga perasaan suami..tak hormatkan suami...ikutkan sgt kata kawan2 dia..macam la dorg yg nak hidup ngan dia...

Childish punya bini...  dia bagi ayat cerai tu sbb nak jugak ugut supaya tt ni ikut jugak cakap dia...bagi betul karang sendiri nyesal karang...
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Post time 27-5-2016 08:35 PM | Show all posts
Assalammu'alaikum TT.  Bersabarlah dgn dugaan ini.  Semoga Allah lembutkan hati isteri TT dan menyedarkankannya tentang dosa dan pahala.  
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Post time 27-5-2016 08:46 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kopiluwak replied at 27-5-2016 09:42 AM
Assalamualikum...

Terima kasih pada semua forumer yg telah bagi pandangan dan nasihat. Wife saya  ...

Wife ko x kesian ke kat anak korang? Vax satu hal..nak pisahkan anak dgn bapa atas hal mcm ni? Lain la kalo ko jenis abaikan tanggungjawab or kaki wrestling anak bini
Wife ko yakin hidup as single mum would be easy?
Sampai tahap tu skali?
I was in her shoes once..suami aku pun against my decision..tp x pernah plak aku mengamuk mintak cerai...i gave spaces for both of us utk saling faham pendapat masing2 sampai la akhir sekali aku sendiri yg tukar fikiran
Kalau koranh proceed utk cerai..confirm geng grup fb tu akan dtg pompom dia ckp nk kenalkan peguam bagai...diorang punya kerjasama mmg gila2 kalau bab tolak vaksin...
Tp ko boleh gk kot atas alasan child negligence..sengaja membahayakan nyawa anak...bnda ni masih vague...debatable dan xde kajian mendalam lg..boleh jd sejarah mahkamah kt malaysia ni


Wife ko baca tred ni kan?

Cik kak..good luck on being single mother and i wish you all the best mencari zauj yang boleh teman u beranak lat rumah..hopefully that guy ada asas perbidanan lah in case ada PPH ke..placenta previa ke...uri x keluar ke...oh yea..dah dah la tu guna fb..agenda yahudi tu kak...dorang tgh nk kumpul database bape org bdk x vax...
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Post time 27-5-2016 08:47 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bidacool replied at 27-5-2016 05:25 PM
sambung lagi.... jangan pulak korang paham sebab ada 3 seksyen tuh, sesenang hati boleh saman orang  ...

Dah ada ke landmark case bawah ketiga tiga seksyen ni kat mesia? To my knowledge belum ada judicial precedent lagi to date.hang hapdet la kot ada
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Post time 27-5-2016 09:11 PM | Show all posts
siputsedut replied at 27-5-2016 08:46 PM
Wife ko x kesian ke kat anak korang? Vax satu hal..nak pisahkan anak dgn bapa atas hal mcm ni? Lai ...

sat siputsedut... i baca thread fd ni lompat lompat gara gara isu manak... hahahah
kat memula page ni u ngaku yg u ex-antivaks until anak u sakit.. nk tny sakit apa... if you dun mind i am asking la ye... tk nak jawab pun takpe.

i naik risau tgk all my close frens sana sini nak antivaks... seyes risau..
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Post time 27-5-2016 09:30 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
siputsedut replied at 27-5-2016 08:46 PM
Wife ko x kesian ke kat anak korang? Vax satu hal..nak pisahkan anak dgn bapa atas hal mcm ni? Lai ...

ayat last tu mmg epic  
dlm tak sedar diperguna yahudi  
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Post time 28-5-2016 03:17 AM | Show all posts
kopiluwak replied at 27-5-2016 11:23 AM
Harap semua forumer bersabar. Termasuklah saya. Sekarang ni emosi wife saya terganggu. Mungkin ape y ...

...gini la...

...in a marriage...kenalah ada persefahaman antara pasangan tu...persefahaman nie pada aku bukan setakat kita suami isteri is of the same opinion...but...ianya jugak refer to the ability to compromise on a problem agar kedua2 pihak berpuashati dan tidak bercakaran dan bertegang urat antara satu sama lain...

...in your situation nie...problem arise when your wife strongly believes that chemicals found in household products and medications are harmful to the body...her strong belief may sound unusual to some sehingga ada yang menggelarkan nya as being obssessed...but...actually...not so unusual in this modern age...ramai jer kumpulan2 yang wujud menentang atau memboikot penggunaan product2 sebegini...and to some extent...memang ada betul pendapatnya itu...

...but...i do think that asking for a divorce is a little bit too much la...takkan pasal perselisihan pendapat tentang vaccination jer dah nak bercerai berai???...cubalah korang berdua work things out...discuss elok2...bawak bincang balik...dan bila berbincang tu...elakkan daripada menggunakan perkataan2 yang boleh membuat dia tersinggung...marah dan yang penting...please dont make her feel like shes an idiot...cos shes not...in fact aku rasa isteri ko nie is someone intelligent...creative and full of resources...

...walaupon dia memboikot product2 sedemikian...setidak2nya...dia ada initiative tuk mencari alternative cleaning product tuk maintain your home environment dan sekiranya anak ko sakit...dia merawat secara tradisional...menggunakan sumber2 semulajadi sebagai ubat gantian...

...your main concern is whether sekolah akan menerima anak ko sekiranya dia tak menerima vaccination seperti mana yang disarankan oleh kerajaan...what u need to know is...vaccination nie is not a compulsory thingy...memang disarankan...but at the end of the day...parents still have the rite to refuse...so u dont worry too much yang anak ko will not get a place in the school...what u need to do is to provide explanation jer kenapa dia tidak diberikan vaccination...having said that...i am not sure how the education system kat malaysia works...

...u two need to tame your ego jugak lerr...cos kalau ego2 korang makin tinggi...alamatnya nanti korang akan berpisah gak...so...seriously...if u really love your marriage...then u need to deflate your balls sikit...and your wife too...deflatelah ego tu sikit...kalau suami tak setuju ngan pendapat kamu...janganlah terus mintak talak...instead...pujuklah suami ngan your sweet talk and bukti2 yang akan membuat suami berpihak kat ko...janganlah bagi alasan kat suami takmo kasi vaccination to your children just becos ko nak boikot Yahudi...u should highlight to your hubby the bad side of vaccination...instead of telling him ko boikot semata2 kerana Yahudi....


...tt...u mentioned and acknowledged that your wife...walaupon refused vaccination...dia berjaya menjaga anak ko ngan baik dari segi pemakanan dan home environment...she is very detailed in every aspect of your child well being...so my advised to u...take a chill pill bro...relax lerr...instead...what i want u to do...is to give your full support to your wife...


...now...dont get me wrong...im not someone that is against vaccine nie semua...in fact...im all for it...but...i do acknowledge that u have the rite to refuse and the most i can do is to make u understand the risks and benefits jer...


...kalau ko membantah terus...and your wife plak takmo mengalah...then sampai bila nak game over??...


...so...compromise...look at your current situation now...your child is healthy...jarang dapat sakit...dijaga ngan baik by your wife dari segi pemakanan dan environment...so...give her some credit la...at least for now what she has chosen has been good so far...


...and...instead of wanting to wait and see if she fell ill what shes gonna do...why not ko belajar from her how to prevent illness or spread of disease using natural products or remedies???...continue to give her your support dan at the same time...ko kenalah make her promise that when the need arises...she too must learn to compromise  certain things ngan ko...


...with regards to home delivery...if her pregnancy is not a high risk pregnancy and if her obs kasi green light...and if she is able to find a well trained and good doula...then by all means...enjoy the home delivery...just make sure that emergency plan preparation semua complete...


...all the best!!




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Post time 28-5-2016 08:34 AM | Show all posts
Ala camni la...

since dua2 taknak mengalah, apa kata vaksin je semua.. Pastu, kalau lepas2 tu still nak continue chemical free, taknak gi spital, taknak makan ubat doktor.. lantak lah... win-win...

Husband dapat vax, wife boleh teruskan dengan fahamannya...
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