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satu lagi apa yg tak dpt dikuasai sultan sulaiman?
-bg aku al fateh ni seorang yg hebat dlm peprangan, al fateh the siege king |
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Sultan2 Otoman ni tak sebaik yg disangka..
yg lemaskan beratus2 gundik pun ada..yg bunuh 30,000 c ...
the^Librarian Post at 5-2-2011 17:17
source cerita.
mmg ada yg tak bagus, tpi ade yg bgus mcm muhammad al fateh ni |
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Masa Acheh di serang Portugis, Acheh hantar wakil ke Turki, minta bantuan Sultan Suleyman, Sultan Suleyman hantar armada tentera laut, senjata & meriam ke Acheh, meyebabkan Portugis dpt ditewaskan
Kenapa Melaka xminta bantuan Turki masa tu? |
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Reply 42# king_kenny
Dari buku "The Sultans", Noel Barber diterbitkan oleh Simon & Schuster 1973. Byk cerita pasal sultan2 ottoman yangmembawa kepada kejatuhan ottoman empire..
Tp yg terbitkan buku ni westerners yg berpusat di new york..Rockefeller Centre...So, expect some propaganda..
n aku pun tak percaya sgt hasil tulisan westerners ni..
dan Sultan Muhammad Al-Fateh (a.k.a Mahomet II) tak diceritakan dlm buku ni...
(Standard la..barat mana nak akui sgt kehebatan Muslim..) |
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Reply 44# the^Librarian
mcm best je buku mu promote tajuk ni? citer sikit, aq nak godeh2 ebay nak beli buku tu kalau menarik isinya (dari segi banyak isi, bukan kesahihan isi yer) |
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Reply 45# zaharul_asriq94
buku ni byk cerita pasal kemewahan2 sultan2 ottoman dulu2...mewah gila...setakat kekayaan melaka tu celah kuku diorang je....n banyak cerita pasal harem2 (gundik) diorang...beribu2..semua diceritakan dalam detail2..
pasal kekejaman banyak gak..
cth:
"...Selim (Murad III) got his wine- but only after a siege marked by the most brutal atrocities against the Christians of
the island. Turkish troops who were allowed to sack Nicosia massacred 30,000 inhabitants, and when the main fortress
of Famagusta fell after heroically withstanding a siege for nearly two years the remnants of the garrison were murdered and
their valiant leader Bragadino was flayed alive; his skin was then stuffed with hay and exhibited to the Turkish soldiery."
dan jugak psl Murad IV yang kaw2 kejam dia..
"...When he caught one of his gardeners and wife smoking, he had their legs amputated and exhibited their them
in public while they bled to death."
"..He would spend two hours sitting at the alai kiosk at the most westerly corner of the Seraglio wall,
exercising the royal prerogative of taking 10 innocent lives a day, as he practices his powers with the arquebus* on passer-by
who were too near the palace walls.
*arquebus
-bab2 kesahihan dia mmg aku tak tau la.. |
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tp skrg kita cerita pasal Mahomet II...
Mahomet II a.k.a Muhammad Al-Fateh.
-kl tak nnt TT marah laks..ahahahah |
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yup,kita bincang psal sultan muhammad al-fateh,bukan sultan2 yg lain.
tapi kalau nak buat perbandingan, boleh. di penghujung empayar uthmaniyah, mmg sultan2 die dah tak sehebat dulu.
kalau Sultan Suleyman terus attack Viena, siapa tahu, mungkin seluruh Eropah sekarang ni, majoriti beragama Islam |
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lama dah thread ni. naik balik pulak. |
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ooo aku tahu dgn sniri apa yg sulaiman magnificient tak dpt kuasai, tembok besar china kan? |
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yg hebatkan, nabi Muhammad dah ramal ada sorang hamba Allah yg akan menawan kota Konstantinopel. Kiranya nabi dah tahu peristiwa ni akan terjadi. |
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Reply 51# haz_11
banyak lagi strategi2 pelik dalam dunia ketenteraan...Alexander buat jambtan kat laut besar, Tamarlene guna unta berapi, askar Eropah guna kambing terbakar tanduk..dan salah satu dari yang terpelik, strategi aL Fateh yang guna kapal utk 'belayar' kat darat, dan bukan kat laut |
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Reply 53# zaharul_asriq94
Bukan atas darat biasa, tapi naik bukit melintasi sebuah kota yang besar pada tengah malam. |
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Reply 54# winamp05
eh? ada lalu kota eh? |
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Reply 55# zaharul_asriq94
bukan lintas dalam kota, tapi dari seberang sini nak kesana ikut belakang kota. |
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giler lama artikel psai Al-Fateh nie.... jah baru2 nie jer terkagum nak tau lebih pasai Al0fateh lepas tgk Halaqah rasanyer.... |
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[quote]Rantai besi Teluk Golden Horn
Darat menjadi lautan
asal aku tgk rantai besi ni kecik sgt eh... sbb pe aku bc tentera al-fateh ni dh gune mcm2 care nk putus kn rantai ni, lngar ngn kapal besar, gune meriam.. still xputus2...
yg pelik nye, ratus2 kapal bleh pindah dlam 1 malam... dh la kapal besar gabak |
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Reply 58# haz_11
Masa peperangan tu, sultan Muhammad Al-Fateh ni juga dibantu oleh beberapa orang wali Allah. Yg penting, semangat yg ditunjukkan oleh bala tentera sultan ni sendiri yg menjadi pendorong dalam merialisasikan penaklukan konstantinopel. |
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