Dapat Arahan Mahkamah Rawat Suami Positif Covid-19 Guna Ivermectin

edayildiz

mclaren replied at 1-9-2021 04:21 PM
Dah pasted pic above tapi forum ni IT Dept tutup sebab covid ke dah berapa hari isu gambar tak kel ...

ok ok faham..takpe nnti i google psl ni.
skrg mmg tak dpt nk tepek gmbo..i pun xdapat nk tepek..btw thanks sis

sarah82

Dwdrum replied at 1-9-2021 02:58 PM
Hospital tidak mahu responsible .. Sebab ubat cacing lembu kuda tidak dapat approval untuk rawat cov ...

Aku terfikir mcm tu gak.. Hospital lepas tangan nanti.. Ye la.. Dah gedik nak juga guna ubat cacing tu

MeghanK

Samerosie replied at 1-9-2021 04:33 PM
Bukan nature of ubat parasit ke that it also kills the good bacteria in your stomache this ceri be ...

ceri beri tu no issue dah makan ubat yang trigger dia opekos la jadi benda tu kan tapi nya takut dorang duk anggap ceri beri tu virus covid keluar so nak sihat dah konon nya tup2 lagi teruk camne sebab ceri beri tu simptom covid..bila dah ceri beri badan lemah, tekanan darah boleh drop semua..kalau jadi pape kat rumah nak salahkan sapa

MeghanK

akusukaq replied at 1-9-2021 04:35 PM
Adek aku  dah lengkap vaksin pun dapat covid kat 2 demam dan batuk batuk dua minggu .dia tak pun ...

sama kes kenalan iols baru first dose sinovac, kena covid tapi alhamdulillah dah ok..makan ubat hosp je

whitebeard

Apa benda la semua nak bitter
Hormat keputusan masing masing sudah la wei
Yang tak nak vaksin dia punya hal lah
Yang dah vaksin duduk diam diam sambil dine in sudah lah
Vaksin bukan tak boleh buat korang jadi pembawa
Sudahnya sama saja
Berapa banyak yang dah cukup 2 dos dapat stage 3 dan 4
Ramaiiiii
Korang yang dah cukup 2 dos jangan ingat korang tak boleh kadi carrier kepada yang yang dah cukup 2 dos jugak
Salah
Yang belum vaksin boleh sebarkan covid
Yang dah vaksin pun boleh sebarkan kovid
Tak ada istilah lindungi semua dalam isu ni
Buat masa sekarang yang paling kena berhati hati adalah dari mereka yang dah cukup 2 dos
Sebab mereka pembawa risiko paling tinggi
Kerana boleh berjalan merata makan merata jumpa orang merata

dodolgemok

Inadori replied at 1-9-2021 04:22 PM
Ivermectin kat Malaysia untuk binatang sahaja???

Ni ha guideline dari KKM, penggunaan oral Iver ...

Tu controlled drugs, bukan boleh beli kat farmasi sesuka hati tok nenek kau jah. Kenapa kau x bagi guideline untuk treatment cancer sekali, diorang ada pakai radioactive material dalam rawatan diorang. Tak pon paling cikai kau letak guideline tampal gigi guna bahan merkuri, so boleh la beli merkuri utk rawat gigi sendiri?

Inadori

dodolgemok replied at 1-9-2021 04:57 PM
Tu controlled drugs, bukan boleh beli kat farmasi sesuka hati tok nenek kau jah. Kenapa kau x bagi ...

Ada aku suruh beli kat farmasi ke? Ada aku cakap Ivermectin bukan controlled drug? Aku cuma betulkan point ko yang terlampau confident menyatakan Ivermectin di Malaysia hanya untuk binatang.
Hadoi. Dah kantoi salah, pergi merapu.

Inadori

Saya tengah menggelupur dan banyak masa sekarang, sebab tak boleh keluar dine in. Jadi saya senaraikan 10 scientific journal, peer reviewed, mengenai Ivermectin dalam merawat Covid 19.

Journal of Infection and Chemotherapy. In Press, Journal Pre-proof. Single-dose oral Ivermectin in mild and moderate COVID-19 (RIVET-COV): a single-centre randomized, placebo-controlled trial.  
Clinical Therapeutics. Effects of Ivermectin in Patients With COVID-19: A Multicenter, Double-Blind, Randomized, Controlled Clinical Trial

Journal of Controlled Release. Volume 329. Ivermectin: an award-winning drug with expected antiviral activity against COVID-19.

Toxicology Reports. Volume 8, 2021, Pages 505-510. Use of Ivermectin in the treatment of Covid-19: A pilot trial

International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents. Volume 57, Issue 1, January 2021, 106248. A COVID-19 prophylaxis? Lower incidence associated with prophylactic administration of ivermectin

New Microbes and New Infections. Volume 43, September 2021. Early COVID-19 therapy with azithromycin plus nitazoxanide, ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine in outpatient settings significantly improved COVID-19 outcomes compared to known outcomes in untreated patients

Medical Hypotheses. Volume 146, January 2021, 110364. Inhaled route and anti-inflammatory action of Ivermectin: Do they hold promise in fighting against COVID-19?

International Journal of Infectious Diseases. Volume 105, April 2021, Pages 598-605. Effectiveness of a multidrug therapy consisting of Ivermectin, Azithromycin, Montelukast, and Acetylsalicylic acid to prevent hospitalization and death among ambulatory COVID-19 cases in Tlaxcala, Mexico

E Clinical Medicine. The Lancet. Volume 37, July 2021. Antiviral effect of high-dose Ivermectin in adults with COVID-19: A proof-of-concept randomized trial

International Journal of Infectious Diseases. Volume 103, February 2021, Pages 214-216. A five-day course of Ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness.

Samerosie

Inadori replied at 1-9-2021 04:25 PM
Saya dah tulis di situ. untuk sesiapa yg merasakan Ivermectin hanyalah ubat binatang sahaja, tak s ...

Iye betul tapi bukan untuk merawat covid la cik oi.  Apa susah sangat nak faham.  Off label ivermectin for human is for scabies, lice bukan covid.  Ivermectin prescription  yg tak off labelnya for human use is to treat river blindness.

Sekarang kkm using it off label for covid in clinical trial.  Bukannya dah approved untuk free flow pakai by malaysian.

Inadori

Samerosie replied at 1-9-2021 05:02 PM
Iye betul tapi bukan untuk merawat covid la cik oi.  Apa susah sangat nak faham.  Off label iverme ...

Masalahnya ramai orang tak faham cik oii. Tu yang saya tulis tu. Bukan specific tuju untuk awak.
Sebut pasal Ivermectin, terus geli tekak. Ubat cacing, ubat binatang tu je yang mampu ratib. FDA, KKM nak discredit Ivermectin pun guna alasan ubat binatang, padahal dan berjuta dose dah digunakan untuk manusia.

Dapat point saya??


KKM, FDA tak approve Ivermectin untuk Covid ni, sedia maklum dah. Tunggu AJ mampus dulu baru approve.

anakmak

Inadori replied at 1-9-2021 01:25 PM
Ini video, DoctorsUnite. Beberapa orang doktor dari Malaysia, India dan Filipina berbincang mengenai ...

Thanks u
I tgh dengar x sampai half
I rekod sekali
Pause dulu nak sambung nnt

Clear sungguh

I rasa macam nak standby jer aver tu
Mana nak dapat agaknya

Inadori

anakmak replied at 1-9-2021 05:11 PM
Thanks u
I tgh dengar x sampai half
I rekod sekali

Haa. Sangat menarik kan penerangan doktor2 ni mengenai Ivermectin. Saya dengar masa live dulu, tak sedar dah 2 jam lebih. Nanti nak dengar lagi.

Samerosie

MeghanK replied at 1-9-2021 04:49 PM
ceri beri tu no issue dah makan ubat yang trigger dia opekos la jadi benda tu kan tapi nya takut d ...

Oh faham faham maksud you.  Ya betul juga nanti tak tau if makin teruk covid tu (assuming dia ambil masa dah +ve).

ashilalat

Jap...yang aku x paham. Aku ingat antuvaks ni sejenis x percaya ubat ubatan kimia. Sejenis percaya pada organik sahaja. Ivermactin kejadah ni sejenis organik ke? Atau sejenis ubat kimia buat kat makmal.jua?

Aku mati2 ingat antuvaks ni jenis rawat cobid hanya dgn cengkih dan habatussauda yg asli tak diproses kilang.

MeghanK

Samerosie replied at 1-9-2021 05:22 PM
Oh faham faham maksud you.  Ya betul juga nanti tak tau if makin teruk covid tu (assuming dia ambi ...

ye assuming dah positif baru amek ivm..tapi ada jugak dengar dorang suggest amek as supplement

sweetpea911

Inadori replied at 1-9-2021 12:25 PM
Ini video, DoctorsUnite. Beberapa orang doktor dari Malaysia, India dan Filipina berbincang mengenai ...

In case you terkena covid, you akan guna ivermectin? Atau mmg dah siap2 bekalan kat rumah? Jangan lupa update ye bila you dah consume..mungkin boleh meyakinkan org2 kat sini

whitebeard

dodolgemok replied at 1-9-2021 04:57 PM
Tu controlled drugs, bukan boleh beli kat farmasi sesuka hati tok nenek kau jah. Kenapa kau x bagi ...

Berenti la merendahkan orang
Kau yang dah cukup 2 dos pun akan jadi pembawa
Banyak je kes yang cukup 2 dos terus pegi stage 3 dan 4
Golongan yang paling bahaya buat masa ni adalah orang macam ko yang dah boleh makan merata rata balil rumah bawak virus kat mak bapak anak anak ko
Unles hidup sebatang kara

Samerosie

Dr. Ryan Marino Covid trends like ivermectin are deadly distractions. Why can't we stop them?We need Americans to stop looking for false cures in the feed store — and just get vaccinated.
Aug. 28, 2021, 5:00 PM +08
By Dr. Ryan Marino, emergency physician and medical toxicologist

"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it." This actual tweet from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration sounds better suited for an April Fool’s Day joke than for an actual federal health advisoryposted just days before the FDA fully approved Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine for those 16 and older.

It’s easy to joke about ignorant or desperate people taking horse dewormers, but misinformation like this really is deadly. Hydroxychloroquine was used off-labelby many around the world, with devastating results, and the same thing is now happening again.

The internet was supposed to revolutionize how we share information. However, as we head into the second autumn of the pandemic with cases once again surging across the United States — despite a monumental vaccination effort — misinformation is still rampant. Risky coronavirus cures and unproven treatments, from hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to oleandrin and now ivermectin, prove an epidemic of science denial has flourished online.

Ivermectin is a medication widely used to treat parasitic infections in humans and animals. Some of the more common medical uses are against worms, mites and insects, like scabies and roundworms, and tropical diseases like river blindness. If you have a dog, you may know it as a heartworm medicine, and if you have livestock, like horses, cows and pigs, then you may know it as a deworming agent.

Ivermectin has shown antiviral effects at very high doses. However, it has never been proven to effectively treat or prevent viral infections in humans. Like much in vitro data, meaning research done on cell cultures in petri dishes, any positive findings have not been replicated in vivo in actual human subjects. And a quick look at this data suggests a reason why: The doses and concentrations necessary for antiviral activity are much higher than are safe for humans, and would be toxic to human life as well as viruses. If this sounds familiar it’s because the same misapplication of in vitro science has been used to promote hydroxychloroquine and disinfectants like bleach.

Meanwhile, the human data on ivermectin tells a much different story. The available scientific evidence has consistently shown a lack of benefit in both treating and preventing Covid-19, and empiric evidence from widespread off-label use has objectively not made a difference. Notably, the only papers that showed any significant benefit for ivermectin have been retracted because they were fraudulent, but not before being shared hundreds of thousands of times around the world. The same disgraced Surgisphere server — a data sharing and analytics company that rose to prominence early in the pandemic — that posted fraudulent hydroxychloroquine science shared another fraudulent paper on ivermectin that set off this current craze.

That paper and Surgisphere no longer exist, but the damage is done. Another popularly shared study on ivermectin, which claimed to demonstrate better success than almost any other medical intervention in modern history, was also found to be falsified and was retracted. But again, only after being shared extensively online.

The pro-ivermectin crowd would have you believe that the science on ivermectin is being “suppressed.” It is not. Some of the largest scale scientific efforts ever have involved the study of ivermectin in Covid-19. Another claim is that the pharmaceutical industry does not want to lose potential profits to a relatively cheap, older drug. This claim conveniently ignores the fact that one of the only drugs with good evidence for use in Covid-19 is dexamethasone, a cheap, old drug that has been implemented worldwide during this pandemic. Even the manufacturer of ivermectin, the pharmaceutical giant Merck, has released statements warning against the use of their product for coronavirus, citing safety and efficacy concerns.

The pro-ivermectin crowd would have you believe that the science on ivermectin is being “suppressed.” It is not.

Groups of contrarian physicians have emerged to promote “cures” without adding any evidence, and despite names like “America’s Front Line Doctors” and “Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance,” their members often do not work clinically — meaning they do not actually have credentials to practice medicine in any hospital settings — and do not treat Covid-19 patients. The founder of FLCCC, who is not currently affiliated with any health care institutions, recently disclosed that he and his family came down with coronavirus despite taking his unproven ivermectin protocol. The AFLD is actually selling ivermectin prescriptions online, a conflict of interest.

True believers have turned to livestock preparations, which can be obtained at feed stores and other places that sell animal supplies without a prescription and without any oversight. And now poison control centers across the country are being overwhelmed with calls related to this off-label ivermectin use, because like most drugs that are used to kill pathogens, ivermectin can also easily be toxic to human life. Animal formulations, which are not FDA approved, usually contain higher concentrations and doses, making it much easier to get sick. But even human doses of ivermectin can have significant side effects and interactions. Not only are people poisoning themselves, there are now shortages of ivermectin for its legitimate uses and prices have skyrocketed.

Furthermore, the fixation on these false cures distracts from the tremendous achievement of Covid-19 vaccines, which we know not only prevent infection but also prevent disease severity in the way that ivermectin believers hope their drug will. I am a doctor and a scientist, and I desperately hope we discover more viable therapeutics for treatment of this pandemic. But here in the United States, we already have access to something much better: safe, effective, life-saving vaccines. Now we just need people to stop looking for false cures in the feed store and get vaccinated.

Dr. Ryan Marino is an emergency physician and medical toxicologist. Outside of the hospital he can be found countering misinformation about drugs and the people who use them on social media.

Samerosie

MeghanK replied at 1-9-2021 05:26 PM
ye assuming dah positif baru amek ivm..tapi ada jugak dengar dorang suggest amek as supplement :fu ...

ha ah tu pun i dengar juga.  crazy.

sweetpea911

MeghanK replied at 1-9-2021 03:08 PM
kalau jenis reti bahasa pasal risiko nak telan sendiri monitor side effect takpe la. ni pandai2 te ...

Iye sis.. saudara colleague consume ivermectin ni sampai buah pinggang rosak teruk.. dah arwah pun.. sebab tu i tny ‘lecturer’ tadi tu kalau dia kena covid dia nak consume tak.. takut sembang kuat je.. haha