[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Debmey

You agree that Mo had sex witha 9 year old right?

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by Debmey at 4-9-2005 01:01 AM
You agree that Mo had sex witha 9 year old right?

If he's a paedophilia, he must have sex with many minors before Siti Aisyah r.a. There's no need to wait until the age of 53 yrs old.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 4-9-2005 12:15 AM

And anyone can give us the standard  mature age for women  from 5000 years ago. If there is. Faith? Debmey? Tru ...

f.y.i  evolution takes time. 5000years is too small in time scale to effect humans biological characteristic.

First lets look at what we consider as mature/adult age for women.. courtesy of puberty101.com

Five Stages of Puberty - Girls
   
1  Age Range: Usually 8-11
In Stage 1 there are no outside signs of development, but a girl's ovaries are enlarging and hormone production is beginning.
   
2  Age Range: Usually 8-14. Average: 11-12
The first sign is typically the beginning of breast growth, including "breast buds." A girl may also grow considerable height and weight. The first signs of pubic hair start out fine and straight, rather than curly.  
   
3  Age Range: Usually 9-15. Average: 12-13
Breast growth continues, and pubic hair coarsens and becomes darker, but there still isn't a lot of it. Your body is still growing, and your vagina is enlarging and may begin to produce a clear or whitish discharge, which is a normal self-cleansing process. Some girls get their first menstrual periods late in this stage.
   
4  Age Range: Usually 10-16. Average: 13-14
Pubic hair growth takes on the triangular shape of adulthood, but doesn't quite cover the entire area. Underarm hair is likely to appear in this stage, as is menarche. Ovulation (release of egg cells) begins in some girls, but typically not in a regular monthly routine until Stage 5.
   
5  Age Range: Usually 12-19. Average: 15
This is the final stage of development, when a girl is physically an adult. Breast and pubic hair growth are complete, and your full height is usually attained by this point. Menstrual periods are well established, and ovulation occurs monthly.

So, to consider a female to be considered as phisically matured adult, she have to go thru' all the 5 statges stated above.

But why talk about 5000 year when its only abt 1382years since Muhammad and Aisha rock the bed.

By the way check this out man...
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 13, Number 2380:
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) used to kiss her and suck her tongue when he was fasting.

emm yummy yummy for the hungry tummy

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 4-9-2005 01:11 PM


f.y.i  evolution takes time. 5000years is too small in time scale to effect humans biological characteristic.

First lets look at what we consider as mature/adult age for wome ...

What's the big fuss? There's no need to compare young/underage children of today with the ancient days. Even nowadays, children as young as 9, 10 yrs old can have sexual intercourse & get pregnant. There was an American child at that age who threw her newborn baby in the garbage. The police questioned her parents & after the DNA test, it was found that it was their daughter's baby. You don't need to learn science to understand all these stuff.

Baiduri Othman

Well Faithhealer, if you notice, the children nowadays have smaller structure compared to the ancient children but it doesn't mean they're not capable of getting pregnant.

Truth.8

A god prophet will  never hve such taugh by having sexual lust while she (6yrs) playing dolls. King soloman or any prophets b4 never married 6 yrs old girl.

Only Satan will influence such taught.

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 4-9-2005 05:09 PM
A god prophet will  never hve such taugh by having sexual lust while she (6yrs) playing dolls. King soloman or any prophets b4 never married 6 yrs old girl.

Only Satan will influence such taught.

The Prophet doesn't need to wait for so long if he's a paedophilia. Afterall, he's a fake prophet & he can do anything he wanted too. Why does he need to suffer & wait until he's 53 yrs old to fulfil his abnormal sexual desire?

Even Jesus had sexual intercourse with Magdalene before he was crucified on the Cross. And yet you people worship him although he's sinful but we Muslims don't worship our Prophet. We only worship the One & Only God, Allah swt.

[ Last edited by Baiduri Othman at 4-9-2005 05:16 PM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 4-9-2005 05:12 PM
The Prophet doesn't need to wait for so long if he's a paedophilia. Afterall, he's a fake prophet & he can do anything he wanted too. Why does he need to suffer & wait until he's 53 yrs old to fulfil his abnormal sexual desire?

Even Jesus had sexual intercourse with Magdalene before he was crucified on the Cross. And yet you people worship him also he's sinful but we Muslims don't worship our Prophet. We only worship the One & Only God, Allah swt.
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Yup he did everthing all on his own by claiming that allah says so to married that poor child. is that story telling frm him??

as Christ having sex with Magdalene, it was just fiction and not proven. is all to make money to sell the books.

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 4-9-2005 05:17 PM



Yup he did everthing all on his own by claiming that allah says so to married that poor child. is that story telling frm him??

as Christ having sex with Magdalene, it was just fiction and  ...

Well many Christians believe Jesus having sexual intercourse out of wedlock with Mary Magdalene. They accepted it since Jesus is God, a Saviour, a Messiah. So what's wrong with that? Even your Bible is full of porn stuff. So what's the big problem with Jesus having sex?

FaithHealer3

Any muslim wanna answer this..

" Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"

Truth.8

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 4-9-2005 05:25 PM
Well many Christians believe Jesus having sexual intercourse out of wedlock with Mary Magdalene. They accepted it since Jesus is God, a Saviour, a Messiah. So what's wrong with that? Even your Bible is full of porn stuff. So what's the big problem with Jesus having sex? ...

excuse me, we talking abt ur muhammad and not bible or Christ.

as usual muslim stuck and divert the topic

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 4-9-2005 01:11 PM


f.y.i  evolution takes time. 5000years is too small in time scale to effect humans biological characteristic.

First lets look at what we consider as mature/adult age for wome ...

dude consider?Pls be more specific .  Dude can u or can't u

give us the standard  mature age for women  from 5000 years ago. If there is. Faith? Debmey? Truth8? .

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 5-9-2005 10:28 AM


dude consider?Pls be more specific .  Dude can u or can't u

give us the standard  mature age for women  from 5000 years ago. If there is. Faith? Debmey? Truth8? .

Already answered your question. Go and check your dictionary for the meaning of "consider".. you seem to be blur regarding the word.

and why are you dodging my direct question???

anti_aktivis answer this if you are muslim: "Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 5-9-2005 09:01 PM

Already answered your question. Go and check your dictionary for the meaning of "consider".. you seem to be blur regarding the word.

and why are you dodging my direct q ...

consider definition

Definitions of consider on the Web:

see: deem to be; "She views this quite differently from me"; "I consider her to be shallow"; "I don't see the situation quite as negatively as you do"
study: give careful consideration to; "consider the possibility of moving"
take into consideration for exemplifying purposes; "Take the case of China"; "Consider the following case"
show consideration for; take into account; "You must consider her age"; "The judge considered the offender's youth and was lenient"
think about carefully; weigh; "They considered the possibility of a strike"; "Turn the proposal over in your mind"
think: judge or regard; look upon; judge; "I think he is very smart"; "I believe her to be very smart"; "I think that he is her boyfriend"; "The racist conceives such people to be inferior"
regard: look at attentively
view: look at carefully; study mentally; "view a problem"
regard or treat with consideration, respect, and esteem; "Please consider your family"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Dude , consider is not absolute.

Dodging? I am not dodging.

I will need ur awnser on my "standard mature age from 5000 years ago till now for " Is there any or not?

Debmey

A 9 year old is still a 9 year old and it was despicable for Mo to have sex witha 9 year old no matter what.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 5-9-2005 09:17 PM

consider definition

Definitions of consider on the Web:

see: deem to be; "She views this quite differently from me"; "I consider her to be shallow"; "I don't see t ...

Still you are not sure, aren't you?

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 5-9-2005 09:17 PM
Dodging? I am not dodging.

Then answer the question will ya.
Question: " Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 5-9-2005 09:17 PM
I will need ur awnser on my "standard mature age from 5000 years ago till now for " Is there any or not?

You should know that there is no evidence regarding "standard mature age from 5000 years ago" exist. Many cultures had different laws made to suit their ignorance. We can only make assumptions.

I don't have any data of any ancient standard maturity age for females. I gave you a modern civilised maturity age for females based on science, and you like act so blur.. because you cannot understand the word " consider" LOL

Many people,5000 years ago were barbarians and uncivilised people who followed no law. The strong & mighty makes law to suit their need.  Maybe they even have sex with their own children.. like some do today. Maybe they have sex with their friend's young daughters.. like some self-proclaimed prophets do.

One thing we know now, grown-up having sex with kids are not good for the kid's heath..phisically and mentally.. proven by science. At least you must know this.

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 5-9-2005 10:13 PM

Still you are not sure, aren't you?

Then answer the question will ya.
Question: " Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and ...

U saying I am dodging?
Dude ur self seems dun know what u asking for.

You should know that there is no evidence regarding "standard mature age from 5000 years ago" exist. Many cultures had different laws made to suit their ignorance. We can only make assumptions.

First u consider base on modern (current) , than u say u only can make assumption. Did u know what is assumption? Duh.

So ur accusation is base on assumption? Not far different when US attack Afghanistan , base on assumption or in other words circumstance fact. Duh.

Dude , did u know mature age differ from time to time , differ from place to place , differ from race to race and .....

So how u can create the benchmark of mature age if u ur self don't know what u are talking about.

Duh assumption?

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 5-9-2005 11:43 PM
U saying I am dodging?
Dude ur self seems dun know what u asking for.

Answer the question.
" Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 5-9-2005 11:43 PM
First u consider base on modern (current) , than u say u only can make assumption. Did u know what is assumption? Duh.

ki ki ki ku ku ko ko... LOL

yackety yak and no answer to my question.. LOL

just answer my question lah

wira_melayu

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 4-9-2005 05:53 PM

Any muslim wanna answer this..

" Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"

Depending on the cultural norms,for instance USA only revised the legal age of marriage from 10 to 14 100 years ago and now to 18.So can we say that those people in US who married 100 years ago are pedophile and what about those people who married 1000 years ago?

So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries.

Here some example of ancient marriage in India,it's norm for girls getting married below the age of 8 in those years.

Introduction: The Reform Movement 1860 - 1886

In India during the 1860抯, marriage meant girls getting married below 8 or 9 years old. Socio-reform religious movements such as the Brahmo Samaj and the Arya Samaj pioneered work against child marriage. Late in the 1860抯 some success was met when the Indian Penal Code prohibited intercourse with a wife who had not reached ten years of age.

Nevertheless, it wasn抰 until 1880 that child marriage as a problem became a public issue in India during the debate on the Age of Consent Bill. Towards the end of the debate a child wife of eleven years old, Named Phulmani, died when her husband raped her. More than 500 women doctors sent a memorandum to the Viceroy requesting him to stop marriage of girls below 14 years of age. The resulting bill compromised at 12 years old.

On August 15, 1884 a Parsee reformist, Behramji Malabari, circulated two notes which highlighted the evils of child marriage and enforced widowhood. The Honorable J. Gibbs added his comments to Malabari抯 notes saying that, "Young mothers become stunted in growth, and often become invalids for life, while children were too often pony and weak." Kadhavdas added to the list of evils, "Early marriage is a great obstacle in the progress of female education."

Shortly thereafter, in 1886 the first petition against 慔indu Infant Marriage

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-9-2005 01:28 AM

Answer the question.
" Can an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"
ki ki ki ku ku ko ko... LOL
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Dude , anwser what question? U urself did not know what u have ask. Duh. have u read Wira melayu posting. Pls read it , then awnser my question first , did we have standard mature age since 5000 years ago. This awnser will be use to reply ur question.