Beard in Islam.

danna09

Originally posted by mom2003 at 27-4-2009 11:25
terasa aura karismatik pada lelaki yang berjanggut + bermisai, berjubah dan berserban kemas.

bila berdepan dgn mereka, rasa segan semacam dan tertunduk-tunduk kepala ini..
mungkin antara hikm ...

yer.... setuju bebenor..

sbb prnh mengalaminya..

blackwar

kalau berpegang kepada dalil semata tanpa melihat dalam skop yg lebih luas,samalah mcm hukum
memegang tangan lelaki dan wanita..haram...jadi isunya ramailah yg jatuh haram hatta berlaga2 di dalam LRT dan sebagainya.
isu2 khilaf memang dimainkan di zaman2 akhir dunia...
fikiran manusia akhirnya akan terbatas juga dari memikirkannya.dikhuatiri hanya kerana isu janggut,maka ramailah yang mengharamkan seseorang kerana tidak membela janggut.

saden

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 30-4-2009 07:43


actually there are three sheikhs up there....

well ...eerr.. i dunno the sheikh with a pair of blue eyes  not too bad

ni boleh tak? ;)

photo of Emir of Bukhara, taken in 1911..yes, that's not a typo
(if interested, google for Prokudin)

mbhcsf

Originally posted by saden at 1-5-2009 15:11


ni boleh tak? ;)

photo of Emir of Bukhara, taken in 1911..yes, that's not a typo
(if interested, google for Prokudin)

http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/uzbekistan/emir_of_bukhara.jpg

would you think that the facial  area covered by the beard is directly proportionate to the err A person's body mass index ( BMI )????  ni serious research question ni ..bukan I nak memain because kan

ada  tak  satu pola yg wujud  di antara satu  individu daripada satu ethnic X dengan luas muka yg covered by the janggut. ( macam ni ka org kata  jambang ??)

bukhara ? samarkand ...tu is actually the place is known to be one of the cradles of  Russian scientists kot ... tapi this person  Muhammad bin Ismail   was one of them the ilmuwan and the most important person actually ...hmm well my  late uncle was bearing the name too  tapi bukan the person yg dimaksudkan .......you probably tak familiar kot  dgn  nama  ni ( challenge you a  bit  stretch the bit on Sirah ni)

mbhcsf

i forgot to  include one criterion though  a bearded sheikh with apair of blue eyes and reasonable BMI ( the criterion is not exhausted )

mbhcsf

Read about him . ada gambaq Genghis Khan untuk compare ( qualitatively) ? thsi would be interesting....

mbhcsf

i think you have your point  too....context kena ambil kia jugak...tapi kan pada saya ada benda yg lebih  of high priority yg depa tumpukan like ni mungkin org gelakkan kot tapi to produce buku panduan solat kat outer space etc etc solat etec etc tu i think is a good one tapi tu JAKIM kan?

so majlis fatwa kebangsan ni tugas dan fungsinyer  apa? bagaimana sesuatu persoalan tu akan dipertimbangkan untuk sebarang pemutusan kata?

apakah perkara / permasalhan itu yg nilai dia "of urgent and of important priority"
or dari segi impact ? size effect dia?

like dalam kes BOTOX tu i terima jer lah pendapat depa.

saden

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 1-5-2009 16:13


would you think that the facial  area covered by the beard is directly proportionate to the err A person's body mass index ( BMI )????  ni serious research question ni ..bukan I nak memain be ...

mak oiii... banyaknya tiang gol bertukar all over the place.. memula beard area as a function of BMI, lepas tu Area_beard=f(ethnicity), lepas tu Area_beard=f(BMI, blue_eyedness).... hehehehehee boleh pening saintis nak buat correlation cenggini.

kalau Area_beard=f(BMI)...counterexample would be Usamah bin Ladin

kalau ethnicity pun banyak counterexample, cuma mungkin southeastasian punya orang, propensity dia ialah kurang nak tumbuh jambang (sideburn --> dagu), walaupun ramai juga yg ada jambang.

mbhcsf

hmm qualitatively , you would say it does not well correlataed, hmm okay it appears to be as such , kan? justinterested to know the p- value tapi method kena ketat ler....tak terbayang.


pssst...: That person is Imam Bukhari....

adehh you  bagikat I ..Usamah bin Laden ....hehehehe hmm...

pasal sideburn tu lah tu..sometimes you know ada tak that association studies done?
anyway .... it is I hope in teh future still a testable hypothesis.

HOTlips

In a sense, i'm kinda agree too. Bukan matlamat hidup utk menghukum. Cuma perlu lakukan dgn ikhlas. Spt yg dah dinyatakan sebelum ni...
Nak ikut FATWA atau IMAN (aka TAQWA)

Yg bearded, buat atas dasar mentaati Allah dan Rasul. Yg tak de, isytighfar krn x mampu atau x bersedia dan jgn memperlekeh kan org. Mudah kan?

Mcm mana pun boleh dibincangkan. Kalau x, org tak tahu hukum dan kepentingannya. Disebabkan tak tahu, maka dianggap sebagai budaya. Yg menyamakan dgn benda lucah pun ada.
Sometimes tu bukan x tahu hukum tp meringan2kannya hingga dijadikan bhn jenaka. Sebab itu lah wujudnya pandangan bhw zaman dulu x de pisau cukur.

HOTlips

Rajin nar sis EMBI.
My personal opinion lak,
Size_of_face=f(kehenseman)
Beard sesuai kalau muka panjang. Kalau muka lebar dan gemuk nampak serabut.
Nabi Muhammad saw pun yg sedang sedang aja kan? Kurus tidak, gemuk pun tidak. So guys out there! Kalau leborrr gi la exercise!

hanyakoygmampu

Macammana tuh janggut dapat membuatkan haid bini teratur?

kupia

Originally posted by hanyakoygmampu at 2-5-2009 12:48
Macammana tuh janggut dapat membuatkan haid bini teratur?

mungkin ada satu ruang janggut mampu menggembirakan seorang isteri....
gembira, puas dan senang hati boleh mendatangkan kesihatan yang berpanjangan.... tak pasti di mana boleh dikaitkan dengan haid.

hanyakoygmampu

ruang janggut tu mana?

eastrun

aku rasa...bila bini pegang janggut..dia rasa geli..and rasa seksi kot?

mbhcsf

i beg your pardon? janggut and a lady's cycle? God , you people ni...hmm...

mbhcsf

dear, once i watched Discovery channel they say

facial symmetry = f( handsome)

hmm.... it is something about facial symmetry ...look at Tom Cruise bearded and without.

mbhcsf

ada tak Counter example? counter striking nanti

mbhcsf

bari i persan yg  foto ni diapunay colours/ matrixs dia , quality gambaq dia ni like macam taken on the 9th decade, tak macam gambaq yg diambil masa duu dulu pun ...cantik resolution dia.

eastrun

no..someone mentioned in the previous pages...you p selak..