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Ada org cakap Nabi Muhammad SAW pandai baca
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Originally posted by gunblade712 at 16-5-2008 09:39 AM 
dan aku tengok akukamudandia pulak yang bagi penjelasan lagi mendalam.. sedangkan persoalan nih KAU YANG TIMBULKAN...
akukamudandia.. maksud aku go on tuh adalah teruskan bagi point2... aku nak baca...
aku pon bukan tahu bnyak sngt..
juz gtau ape yg aku study ngan pendapt sendiri jer..
tapi aku maseh duk menanti mane bukti Muhammad baca bible yg dah ditranslate tu..
xtimbul2 lagi neh..  |
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Reply #150 akukamudandia's post
senang je..
SBB DIER TAK PUAS ATI AKU SOUND DIER KAT RSF
HAHAHAHHAHA BACUL PUNYA OB |
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Reply #151 orangbesi's post
sorry eh.. ini aku ikut logic kau lah.. sbb aku tak faham, nih aku tanya..
menurut kau, 'Ummi yang dimaksudkan adalah buta mata @ buta hati (dalam kesesatan)...
so kalau Nabi yang Ummi, maksudnya... nabi yang buta hati? |
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Reply #151 orangbesi's post
err..
aku xpandai nak berbahasa arab..
ko dah chek betul2 ker? btl ke perkataan ummi terdapat di 30 tempat..
ke ko tgk tafsir Quran jer.. bile ko nmpak perkataan buta terus ko translate ke Ummiy..
xpe2.. nt jap aku tgk ey..  |
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Reply #153 gunblade712's post
tunggulah jap lagi
dan tentunya engkau pasti kena tunggu!!!!!
aaaiiii dok tanya ajeeee keeee
tak ada bat kajian sikit sikit keeeeeeee.............. |
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Reply #156 orangbesi's post
buat aper aku nak buat kajian..
KAU YANG KENE EXPLAIN.. KENAPA AKU KENE SUSAH2 PADAHAL KAU YANG MENGELIRUKAN ORANG?
bertanggungjawablah.. jangan jadi bodoh sombong...
takpe.. aku bole tunggu.. takde hal...
tapi kesianlah kepada mereka2 yang dah mula goyang aqidah AKIBAT DARIPADA PERKATAAN2 KAU..
harap2 kau taulah jawab bila disoal nnt..  |
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rilek aaa... bro...
cuba aa masing2 hormatkan yg lain...
korang cari-cari... cari-cari... percayalah... last-last jawapannya - tak tahu..!
Allah je yg tahu...
korang takkan tahu... sampai bila2 pun...
orang ni kata gitu... org tu kata gini...
masing2 ada hujah...
sedangkan ilmu tu pon Tuhan yg bagi...
berselisih pendapat adalah biasa...
mari kita kawal kearroganan kita... |
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Reply #158 kyas's post
rite on!
thanks for the reminder kyas.. 
cume pelik, apsal tah suka sangat provoke...
yang lagi aku pelik, kat forum je hebat provoke.. aku pm dier, dier tak reply pon.. not even a thank u |
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err..
aku dah chek.. setahu aku ade 3 je ayat dlm Al-Quran yg ade kalimah 'Ummi'.. tak tahu lak kalau ade lagi dlm ayat lain.. (Surah Al-A'raaf ayat 157-158 dgn Surah Al-Jumu'ah ayat 2)..
dlm kedua2 surah neh, kalimah ummi telah disebut dgn jelas.. Ummi/Ummiyin.. dan ianya merujuk kpd Rasulullah.. seorang nabi yg ummi.
dlm verse2 yg OB bagi.. setelah aku baca ayat Al-Quran tu.. aku xdpt detect pon perkataan ummi.. mungkin ada tapi aku dah baca berulang kali.. mungkin kalimah ummi dlm ayat tu jadi 'ammi' ke atau sbgnya.. aku xtahu.. dan mengikut tafsir Al-Quran yg aku ada.. Buta yg terdpt dlm surah yg OB bagi tidak merujuk kpd buta huruf.. tetapi merujuk kpd buta hati sbb xnmpak ajaran Allah. ianya direfer kpd org2 kafir..
aku tak tahu bahasa arab.. sapa2 yg pandai kena la tlg.. tapi aku maseh lagi berpgg Ummi itu bermaksud buta huruf. |
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Originally posted by gunblade712 at 16-5-2008 09:57 AM
sorry eh.. ini aku ikut logic kau lah.. sbb aku tak faham, nih aku tanya..
menurut kau, 'Ummi yang dimaksudkan adalah buta mata @ buta hati (dalam kesesatan)...
so kalau Nabi yang Ummi, mak ...
a'a.. tol ckp GB tuh..
kalo ko ckp Ummi tu bermaksud buta hati..
xkan nabi yg ummi tu nabi yg buta hati..
tuh mcm dah menjatuhkan maruah baginda..
dlm ayat rujukan yg ko bagi tu ade perkataan buta dan merujuk kpd org kafir..
correct me if im wrong..
[ Last edited by akukamudandia at 16-5-2008 06:15 PM ] |
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Tafsir Al-Qurtubi , Islam QA website.
Praise be to Allaah.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read not write whom they find written with them in the Tawraat and the Injeel, - he commands them for al-Ma抮oof (i.e., Islamic monotheism and all that Islaam has ordained); and forbids them from al-Munkar (i.e., disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islaam has forbidden); he allows them as lawful al-Tayyibaat (i.e., all good and lawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.), and prohibits them as unlawful al-khabaa抜th (i.e., all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allaah抯 Covenant) and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad), honor him, help him and follow the light (the Qur抋an) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful."
[al-A抮aaf 7:157]
Al-Qurtubi, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in his tafseer of this aayah: "Allaah says 慳l-ummi. |
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Minta tolong OB tampilkan ulama mana yang bercanggah pendapat tentang sifat buta huruf Nabi dan apa hujah mereka untuk kita sama |
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Salam,
Ada sesiapa yang pandai menulis, tetapi tak tahu membaca? Kalau tak percaya Quran, sila baca hadis dibawah
Bukhari
Volumn 003, Book 049, Hadith Number 863.
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Narated By Al-Bara : When the Prophet intended to perform 'Umra in the month of Dhul-Qada, the people of Mecca did not let him enter Mecca till he settled the matter with them by promising to stay in it for three days only. When the document of treaty was written, the following was mentioned: 'These are the terms on which Muhammad, Allah's Apostle agreed (to make peace).' They said, "We will not agree to this, for if we believed that you are Allah's Apostle we would not prevent you, but you are Muhammad bin 'Abdullah." The Prophet said, "I am Allah's Apostle and also Muhammad bin 'Abdullah." Then he said to 'Ali, "Rub off (the words) 'Allah's Apostle' ", but 'Ali said, "No, by Allah, I will never rub off your name." So, Allah's Apostle took the document and WROTE, 'This is what Muhammad bin 'Abdullah has agreed upon: No arms will be brought into Mecca except in their cases, and nobody from the people of Mecca will be allowed to go with him (i.e. the Prophet) even if he wished to follow him and he (the Prophet) will not prevent any of his companions from staying in Mecca if the latter wants to stay.' When the Prophet entered Mecca and the time limit passed, the Meccans went to 'Ali and said, "Tell your Friend (i.e. the Prophet) to go out, as the period (agreed to) has passed." So, the Prophet went out of Mecca. The daughter of Hamza ran after them (i.e. the Prophet and his companions), calling, "O Uncle! O Uncle!" 'Ali received her and led her by the hand and said to Fatima, "Take your uncle's daughter." Zaid and Ja'far quarrel ed about her. 'Ali said, "I have more right to her as she is my uncle's daughter." Ja'far said, "She is my uncle's daughter, and her aunt is my wife." Zaid said, "She is my brother's daughter." The Prophet judged that she should be given to her aunt, and said that the aunt was like the mother. He then said to 'All, "You are from me and I am from you", and said to Ja'far, "You resemble me both in character and appearance", and said to Zaid, "You are our brother (in faith) and our freed slave."
salam |
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Reply #164 puddle's post
Pada awal hadith tu disebut Saidina Ali r.a. menulis perjanjian Hudaibiyyah dengan perkataan "Muhammad, Rasulullah.... "When the document of treaty was written, the following was mentioned: 'These are the terms on which Muhammad, Allah's Apostle agreed (to make peace).' "
Kemudian dipertikai oleh orang kafir tu perkataan RasulullahThey said, "We will not agree to this, for if we believed that you are Allah's Apostle we would not prevent you, but you are Muhammad bin 'Abdullah."
Nabi Muhammad s.a.w. kemudian mengambil perjanjian tersebut lalu memadam perkataan Rasulullah. Bukan menulis semula perjanjian berkenaan. Dalam riwayat lain menyatakan Nabi Muhammad betanya kepada Saidina Ali di bahagian mana dinyatakan perkataan "Rasulullah". Lalu Saidina Ali menunjukkannya dan Nabi Muhammad memadamkannya. |
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salam
memang benar
terdapat percanggahan dalam kebanyakan situasi sebegini
tetapi itu adalah berlandaskan ilmu mereka masingx -kepercayaan masingx
(yg tak memudaratkan AKIDAH)
termasuk situasi NABI ISRAK & MIKRAJ - dgn jasad atau roh atau keduanya
dan kita hanya mampu membuat andaian sahaja dr riwayat2 yg diperolehi
walaupunada bercanggah antara satu sama lain
YANG MANA SATU YANG BENAR........................ |
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maaf saya masih lagi pada bab BACA:
1. apa yg di TAMPAKKAN pada NABI di GUA hira utk DIBACA
masih tiada kepastian sehingga NABI berkata AKU TIDAK TAHU BACA atau AKU TAK DAPAT BACA
(dua ciri yg berbeza)
2. Kenapa NABI tidak menulis UTUSAN2 dan PERJANJIAN???
cuba kita fikirkan:
APANILA PERINTAH PERANG DITURUNKAN - KEBENARAN PENGGAL LEHER MUSUH
adakah NABI pernah mencantas leher musuh???
HUKUM ZINA dijalankan - adakah NABI termasuk mereka yg merejam???
NABI ada berkata: INGIN AKU MENCARI SEORANG MEMNADI IMAM
LALU AKU PERGI DGN ANAK-ANAK MUDA
MEMBAKAR RUMAH MEREKA YANG KEDENGARAN AZAN TAPI TAK MENGIKUTINYA
NABI ada pergi bakar rumah ke?????
hanya hasil yg terbaik - masjid penuh lantaran katanya itu
(hanya sekadar renungan)
SESUNGGUHNYA YANG BENAR ADALAH DARI TUHANMU DAN JANGANLAH KAMU RAGU-RAGU |
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Originally posted by orangbesi at 17-5-2008 12:43 PM
APANILA PERINTAH PERANG DITURUNKAN - KEBENARAN PENGGAL LEHER MUSUH
adakah NABI pernah mencantas leher musuh???
HUKUM ZINA dijalankan - adakah NABI termasuk mereka yg merejam???
NABI ada berkata: INGIN AKU MENCARI SEORANG MEMNADI IMAM
LALU AKU PERGI DGN ANAK-ANAK MUDA
MEMBAKAR RUMAH MEREKA YANG KEDENGARAN AZAN TAPI TAK MENGIKUTINYA
NABI ada pergi bakar rumah ke?????
ayat2 kat sini
buat aku terfikir...
tapi aku tak expert kat hadis..
tapi pernah dengar pasal org yg dah kawen...pastuh zina ngan org lain..then kene rejam
hmm....
[ Last edited by demonagirl6 at 17-5-2008 03:04 PM ] |
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Reply #168 demonagirl6's post
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ikot kan dlm Islam.. camtu laa hukuman bg org yg bzina... |
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Reply #167 orangbesi's post
dh tentu tu wahyu dr ALLAH.. ALLAH menghantar Jibril utk sampaikan wahyu Nya kat Nabi Muhammad..
kalo Nabi menulis utusan2 ngan perjanjian... ko nk jd kan sebagai bukti ke?? kalo nabi menulis sendiri atau membuat pjanjian.. sape yg akan sahkan pjanjian tuh?? ko nk matikan setem utk buktikan pjanjian tuh sah?
dh tentu2 semua nye wahyu yang disampaikan oleh ALLAH.. ALLAH maha mengetahui, maha mendengar dan MAHA BENAR.. |
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Originally posted by demonagirl6 at 17-5-2008 03:01 PM 
ayat2 kat sini
buat aku terfikir...
tapi aku tak expert kat hadis..
tapi pernah dengar pasal org yg dah kawen...pastuh zina ngan org lain..then kene rejam
hmm....
Betul zina hukumnya rejam dengan batu (oleh khalayak ramai) sampai mati. Tetapi hampir mustahil untuk menjatuhkan hukum zina sebab perlu 4 saksi. Saksi2 mesti nampak betul2 benda tu keluar masuk, kalau tidak tak boleh pakai... itu pasal hakim selalu jatuhkan hukum khalwat sahaja. Bukan mudah menghukum zina... |
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