“FREETHINKERS are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking.” ―Leo Tolstoy
“A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion” ~Chinese Proverb
“Children should be taught to question everything. To question everything they read, everything they hear.. children should be taught to question authority. Parents never teach children to question authority. Because parents are authority figures themselves and they don’t wanna undermine their own bullshit inside the household. So they stroke the kid and the kid strokes them, and they all stroke each other and they all grow up all kungfued up and then come to shows like this.” -George Carlin (in his final tour, ‘It's Bad For Ya’, 2008)
Albert Einstein - How I See the World
Albert Einstein navigated the twilight turf between consciousness and matter for much of his life. He argued that “Man” suffers from an “optical delusion of consciousness” as he “experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest.” His cure? “The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious,” he said. “It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: His eyes are closed.”
“A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.” -Albert Einstein
“The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self.” -Albert Einstein
10 Lessons from Einstein
1. Follow Your Curiosity
“I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious.”
2. Perseverance is Priceless
“It’s not that I’m so smart; it’s just that I stay with problems longer.”
3. Focus on the Present
“Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.”
sebagaimana yg sy ingat, bukankah,anda dulu seorg yg bergiat aktif dlm OBE, astral projection right.....
nampaknya ia membawa anda sehingga bertindak utk answer utk pihak atheis...dlm thread ni....no wonder...ive benn through that stage...
by the way. s dh tgk video tu, no offend, bila sy tgk video tu, sy dh agaj atheis mmg hidup dlm lingkungan humanism punya idea...
mereke jijik dgn keganasan, dan promote love......
tanpa mereka sedari love juga tidak relevan dr segi logik.....mereka mmg fail dlm bab absolute morality sebab mereka berpandukan love......sehinggalah jika ibu mereka dirogol dibunuh kejam, dikencing dengan air kencing, baru mereka tahu betapa adilnya Tuhan jauh melangkaui angan2 mereka yg ingin menyelesaikan seluruh masalah hanya dgn love.....
sy tak tahan dgn idea mereka, dan sy meletakkan mereka dlm kategori naive....
Human race is a collective mass of various races, each with their own beliefs and custom.
An atheists cannot be considered as a human race because he has no belief which similar to others and do not respect the inviduality and customs of others.
ussopp posted on 18-1-2013 04:06 AM
sebagaimana yg sy ingat, bukankah,anda dulu seorg yg bergiat aktif dlm OBE, astral projection righ ...
I watched the clip. What the forumer asked and what Richard Dawkins says are two different things.
The forumer asked about the "absolute morality" which is needed by individuals and could require a certain level of (leap of) faith to accomplish while Dawkins stated about religious morality which had been forced down onto its followers. It is two different thing.
"Absolute Morality" could require individuals to make sacrifices and be willing to be law-abiding individuals, follow morale and publicly accepted ethics and work as part of the unit of a society. While atheists could be law-abiding citizens, their sense of morale and ethics is fueled by their desires (such as adultery, homosexuality, greed and such) which all humans have (but outlawed by existence of religion among theists). Therefore, logically speaking, it is NOT possible for an atheist to become completely morale and ethical without him first addressing his own dark nature (which religion often forces its followers to do).
Furthermore, I failed to see why Richard Dawkins only use Islam and Christianity as models for (failure of) morality in the society and not other religions and beliefs like Shintoism (which changed after 1950s in Japan), Buddhism and Hinduism.
ussopp posted on 18-1-2013 04:06 AM
sebagaimana yg sy ingat, bukankah,anda dulu seorg yg bergiat aktif dlm OBE, astral projection righ ...
Anda bercakap berdasarkan propaganda agamawan..kononnya yg bukan penganut agama tak penting moral biar rogol dan kemungkaran,lawaklah statement anda...
saya bagi contoh kes2 rogol tertinggi di dunia adalah di negara2 yg amal agama,sebaliknya bila kita kembali kepada sejarah soviet union dulu masalah rogol adalah amat rendah jika ada kes tersebut hukumannya amat berat,bukan biarkan seperti yg anda khayalkan...saya pernah tenguk dokumentari era soviet parent membawa anak daranya ke pusat kesihatan khas untuk cek anaknya masih berdara atau tak,walaupun mereka tak amal agama tetapi mereka ada sistem displin yg mereka reka untuk susun masyarakatnya untuk sentiasa berperaturan,bermoral dan beretika ...melakukan aturan tersebut adalah kepuasan secara tak langsung mengawal jenayah dan kemungkaran..berbanding agama yang di cipta manusia hukum hakam rekaannya di kaitkan tuhan dan ditakut2kan neraka dan di hadiahkan syurga.
berpuluh puluh agama di reka ada yang bertahan hingga kini masing masing mengaku agama merekalah yg benar..tapi tak berani kondem depan2 hanya berani sesama penganutnya sahaja.
Hanya mereka yg bertuah akan nampak bahwa agama2 adalah rekaan manusia....tuhan tak pernah cipta agama,manusia yg kaitkan agama agamanya dgn tuhan.
“We don't have to engage in grand, heroic actions to participate in the process of change. Small acts, when multiplied by millions of people, can transform the world.” -Howard Zinn
Consciousness Drives The Universe
An outstanding video which depicts that consciousness is what drives and shapes everything. This means ultimately everything in the universe, even matter, is consciousness in the most subtle and dense form. This video features Grant Morrisson, David Lynch, David Icke, Gregg Braden, Michael Talbot, David Wilcock, Wayne Dyer, Neil Kramer and Bill Hicks
“A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.” ―Albert Einstein
“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.” ―Nikola Tesla
Thoughts, Emotions, and the power that they bestow upon you. Or rather, how you can empower yourself to live in the moment by controlling your thoughts and emotions, and guiding yourself the way that you want to be guided, rather than allowing modern society to tell you how to feel and what to think.
Just as you create your own reality, we are also co-creating our realities together. We are a collective! As a community, a city, a country, and a species, we decide where we want to go and how we want to flow. It is up to us to decide what happens next in the epic tale that is the human race, but change has to start from an individual level.
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” ―Nikola Tesla
Saya bagi contoh kes2 rogol tertinggi di dunia adalah di negara2 yg amal agama,sebaliknya bila kita kembali kepada sejarah soviet union dulu masalah rogol adalah amat rendah jika ada kes tersebut hukumannya amat berat,bukan biarkan seperti yg anda khayalkan...saya pernah tenguk dokumentari era soviet parent membawa anak daranya ke pusat kesihatan khas untuk cek anaknya masih berdara atau tak,walaupun mereka tak amal agama tetapi mereka ada sistem displin yg mereka reka untuk susun masyarakatnya untuk sentiasa berperaturan,bermoral dan beretika ...melakukan aturan tersebut adalah kepuasan secara tak langsung mengawal jenayah dan kemungkaran..berbanding agama yang di cipta manusia hukum hakam rekaannya di kaitkan tuhan dan ditakut2kan neraka dan di hadiahkan syurga.
Communism dan Sosialism mungkin tidak menpercayakan Tuhan dan agama, akan tetapi arah tujuan mereka adalah sama - iaitu "mengembala" manusia ke arah cara hidup tertentu, dgn alasan bahawa ianya cara hidup yg bermoral, etika dan berdisplin.
Akan tetapi, siapakah yg menentukan apa itu etika dan morale? Apakah kelayakan yg ada kpd setengah golongan ini - samada mereka mengelarkan diri mereka Nabi, Rasul, Politician ataupun philosophers - utk menentukan apa itu etika dan moral utk masyarakat umum?
Dlm agama, penganut agama mendakwa Tuhan menentukannya melalui agama. Communist dan Sosialists pula, cuba menentukan konsep morale dan etika mereka sendiri, kononnya mereka ada kemampuan utk berbuat demikian dan ada HAK melebihi manusia lain utk memaksa masyarakat mengikuti apa yg mereka fikirkan sbg "cara terbaik".
Senang cerita, samada seseorang itu percayakan kpd Tuhan ataupun atheists, mereka tetap nak mengawal dan mengembala masyarakat umum ke arah cara pemikiran mereka. Jadi, apa gunanya berdebat mengenai agama dan Tuhan kalau diri sendiri memerlukan seseorang pengembala utk menberitahu anda apa itu etika dan moral?
Sephiroth posted on 21-1-2013 12:08 PM
Communism dan Sosialism mungkin tidak menpercayakan Tuhan dan agama, akan tetapi arah tujuan mer ...
Bezanya masyarakat yg tahu bahawa agama itu rekaan manusia sentiasa memperbaiki aturan displin,tertib etika dan moral terbaik dgn sokongan majoriti masyarakat yg lain berbanding agama rekaan yg sememangnya palsu masih menekankan hukum hakam semasa agama itu di cipta,habis tinggi mereka hanya mampu modified dgn tafsiran baru,yg tak boleh taksir dan kantoi mereka senyapkan dan menjawab dgn alasan2 sesuka hati mereka dgn sandaran2 yg lemah sesuai dgn kepercayaan mereka.
Jika anda rasa hidup dalam masyarakat yg di gembala adalah mengongkong dan anda ada idea lain yg membahagiakan anda,no problem dosa tidak menghantui anda asal saja jgn pula anda memaksa org lain yg tak berminat ikut dgn pemikiran anda...mudah sahaja jgn anaiya orang dgn menipunya,mencuri haknya,menyusahkannya atau apa2 sahaja yg memberi kesan buruk kepada orang lain atau mana2 hidupan di muka bumi.
Jika mampu berilah kebahagian kepada orang lain untuk kebahagian diri sendiri...contoh mudah ramai freethinker derma sebahagian besar harta kekayaannya kepada mereka yg memerlukan kerana itu adalah kebahagian kepadanya...itu dari segi kemampuan kewangan..ada lagi berbagai2 cara untuk membahagiakan mahluk lain untuk kebahagian diri sendiri tetapi jika ada idea lain yg boleh membahagiakan anda tanpa menyusahkan mana2 pihak go on sahaja.
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