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Post time 8-2-2006 11:27 PM | Show all posts |Read mode


nape dizaman perluasan empayar islam satu ketika dulu ... tendency to marching to europe is more than central asia ... far east or deep to the african continents?

cam zaman umayyad diowang beria ria nak gie spain ... ottoman plak balkan region ... nape eropah?

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Post time 12-2-2006 03:08 PM | Show all posts
Sebab dekat?
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Post time 12-2-2006 10:17 PM | Show all posts

salam

Arabia dikelilingi air di 3 penjuru... Teluk Parsi di Timur, Lautan Hindi di Selatan dan Laut Merah di Barat.  

Org Islam tlh lama mengadakan hubungan dgn Parsi dan Rom yg belayar di Teluk Parsi dan Laut Mediterranean.  Mereka juga ada terlibat dlm peperangan di laut.
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Post time 13-2-2006 01:15 AM | Show all posts
The overall strategy at the time was for Islam to expand into Europe and conquer Byzantine and eventually Rome. Now, look at the continent of Europe, there are only two passageways to Europe. One is guarded Byzantine in the east, while Rome was strong in central Europe which made it logical to land in Spain.

On the western front, Muslims of the Berbers in Morocco, assembled a huge expeditionary force. The objective was to open the western front into Europe. Jabbar Akhbar (Gibraltar) was the point of landing which was chosen for this mission. The Muawiyah Caliphate sent an expeditionary force in 711 CE which was led by the famous Tariq Al-Ziyad who upon landing burned all the ships and inspired his men to fight.

A second massive campaign was the Muslim army which aimed to venture into east Europe through Byzantine. The Byzantine Empire was a major block in the east into Europe. It was the door and a massive attack was needed from the east. At the same time, this was the closest supply route between Arabia and east Europe. However, the Bosphorus was a major obstacle to this conquest. It was only under the Sultan Mehmet of the Seljuks (Turks) in 1453 CE with a prolonged siege of Byzantine, its defense was finally broken and Muslim conquered Constantinople(Istanbul).

Although the two campaigns were launched under different Caliphates and about 600 years apart, the overall strategy has always remained the same. The strategy may have been deviced during the Caliphate Al-Rashidun period.

If you compare the maneouvre, you may see it as a large pincer attack into Europe. The massive Muslim land army advancing from the east while an expeditionary force lands in Spain.

The strategy was to converge the two Muslim armies in central Europe with the fall of Byzantine and finally Rome.

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Post time 13-2-2006 08:23 AM | Show all posts
Good one R6....I forgot the fact that the Byzantines are inheritors of the brilliant Roman Empire. Which might explain why Islamic expansion concentrates to the west. The Persian Empire has already been subdued during Saidina Umar's administration.
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Post time 13-2-2006 09:52 AM | Show all posts
empayar Islam dapat mengengam Andalusia dan hingga eropah timur dianggap dapat menguasai dunia...
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Post time 13-2-2006 10:56 AM | Show all posts
nasib baik islam sampai ke Tanah Melayu .. kalo tak apa agaknya agama aku sekarang nie ??
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Post time 13-2-2006 11:48 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 13-2-2006 11:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by chumpon at 13-2-2006 10:56
nasib baik islam sampai ke Tanah Melayu .. kalo tak apa agaknya agama aku sekarang nie ??


Kalau Islam tak sampai..alamat kita Hindu la.....sebab tu agama anutan kerajaan2 besar Asia Tenggara samapai kedatangan Islam...tapi sebab ada penjajah entah le......
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Post time 13-2-2006 12:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 13-2-2006 11:50 AM


Kalau Islam tak sampai..alamat kita Hindu la.....sebab tu agama anutan kerajaan2 besar Asia Tenggara samapai kedatangan Islam...tapi sebab ada penjajah entah le......


kita macam thailand lah...
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Post time 13-2-2006 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by HangPC2 at 13-2-2006 12:54 PM


kita macam thailand lah...



kenaper Islam tak sampai ke Indo-Cina spt Burma, Siam, Laos dsb ?
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Post time 13-2-2006 01:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by chumpon at 13-2-2006 01:13 PM



kenaper Islam tak sampai ke Indo-Cina spt Burma, Siam, Laos dsb ?



ader penyebaran islam kat indo china melalui wilayah selatan china tak silap yunan... kan Orang ''Hui'' ader bau bacang dengan Orang Melayu Champa dan Orang Hui di hainan.....
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 Author| Post time 14-2-2006 02:06 PM | Show all posts


thanx for the info ... tapi nape owang islam tak menyeberangi laut merah ntuk conquer african continent? ... zimbabwe ker, burundi, turundi, rwanda, somalia bla bla bla ... bukan ker lagi senang daripada dok bertumbuk ngan byzantium? ...

or adekah kat afrika time tuh ader lagi kerajaan yg sekuat byzantium lalu muslim memilih ntuk tidak berdepan ngan diowang sebalik nye byzantium?
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Post time 14-2-2006 02:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by topeng perak at 14-2-2006 14:06


thanx for the info ... tapi nape owang islam tak menyeberangi laut merah ntuk conquer african continent? ... zim ...


Afrika ada la topeng....dari Mesir sampai ke maghribi...maghribi juga la jump-off point Tariq ibn Ziyad ke Sepanyol
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Post time 14-2-2006 03:33 PM | Show all posts

sorry kalau lari tajuk sikit..

pejuang islam..

imej yang tuan/puan tengok dalam email yang saya fwd ni tidak pernah
dipertontonkan kepada umum selama ini hinggalah ada pengkaji sejarah dari ukm ka entah mana, pi selak pi selak mai kat library university oxford kat england sana nu, dan jumpalah gambar ni.

katanya, ni lah gambar "si penderhaka" yang dibunuh oleh orang putih
tahun 1919 dulu di kota baru kelantan, kerana berani melawan pemerintah.. nama dia hj hasan ke apa, orang pangge "tok janggut"... hah, nilah akibatnya kalau menderhaka kepada pemerintah, tak sabar-sabar nak memerdekan tanah melayu ni dari pemerintahan orang putih...


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Post time 14-2-2006 03:34 PM | Show all posts
selepas baca ni, sama-samalah kita sedekahkan Al Fatihah kepada allahyarham tok janggut yang telah berjuang atas kesedaran berjihad untuk mempertahankan agama dan tanah air dari belenggu Inggeris. orang-orang seperti tok janggut nilah yang berani bagi amaran kat orang putih, "kalau hampa nak balik england tengok anak bini, hampa tok sah dok kacau adat resam dan agama kami..."  (sory la, dia speaking kelate, bukan kedah).

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 Author| Post time 14-2-2006 03:47 PM | Show all posts


haji hasan bin munas .... gambar nieh kan ader dalam buku teks sejarah tingkatan tiga?
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 Author| Post time 14-2-2006 03:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 14-2-2006 02:26 PM


Afrika ada la topeng....dari Mesir sampai ke maghribi...maghribi juga la jump-off point Tariq ibn Ziyad ke Sepanyol



maksud aku bukan north africa ... tapi central afrika ... south africa ... gitu lerh ... cam zimbabwe, burundi, turundi, djibouti, kenya bla bla bla
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Post time 14-2-2006 04:01 PM | Show all posts
Aku rasa...rasa aje la....kerajaan islam nak tumbangkan dulu kerjaaan2 kuat yang sedia ada seperti Parsi, Byzantine dan sebagainya....
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Post time 14-2-2006 04:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by topeng perak at 14-2-2006 03:48 PM



maksud aku bukan north africa ... tapi central afrika ... south africa ... gitu lerh ... cam zimbabwe, burundi ...


ader kerajaan kecil islam kat afrika (Situasi macam di benua india).... aper namer tempat dier darul el salam (Kenya) dan hingga ke ivory coast... tengah benua afrika hutan belantara yg manusia tak pernah masuk...

[ Last edited by HangPC2 at 14-2-2006 04:08 PM ]
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