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Post time 27-11-2006 03:00 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Saya ada kemusykilan tentang bab pantang makan. Seperti mana yang kita tahu orang Melayu ni banyak pantang larang misalnya katalah masa mengandung, lepas bersalin, atau pantang sebab2 lain. Yang saya dapati pantang ni berubah mengikut culture, contohnya katalah saya tanya orang Jawa (saya ni keturunan Jawa), pantangnya lain, tanya kawan dari sebelah utara pantangnya lain. Jadi saya nak tanya professionals kat forum ni (nutrionist, dietician, and medical doctors):-

1) Apa yang dimaksudkan dengan makanan yang sejuk? (Cth.nya ibu dalam pantang seharusnya elak makanan sejuk)
2) Ada kawan saya dari belah utara pula kata kena elak semua sayur2an yang menjalar? (betul ke dari segi perubatan ianya ada effects kat ibu dalam pantang atau nursing moms?
3) Apa kah maksud makanan yang ada angin? Tanya orang dari berbeza tempat semua jawapan lain2.. macam saya ni saya perasan kalau makan kacang tanah (sambal kacang ke, peanut butter ke) memang dapat angin lah.. tapi tak makanan yang lain like pulut tapi my sister kata jgn makan kalau tengah pantang.. saya ikut kata dia tapi tak tahu sejauh mana kebenarannya.

4) soalan terakhir, ada orang kata setengah makanan 'tajam" dan tak sesuai untuk ibu dalam pantang macam nenas.. betuk ke?

tujuan saya bertanya ni sebab saya ni nak tahu reasons dari segi saintifik dan perubatan.  Bukan tujuan nak mempertikaikan adat orang tua.
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Post time 27-11-2006 10:46 AM | Show all posts
juita bukan professional tapi apa yang juita buat juita pantangkan bende yang mendatangkan alergic atau mudarat.....cam kata org x leh mkn ayam takut gatal...not for me...juita mkn timun pun ok cam org kata tumbuhan menjalar tu bwk angin...cuma makan pada-pada lah satu hidangan tu 2 3 keping potongan timun tu dah cukup ler...tapi udang yess memang tak sentuh masa pantang.

lagi satu cili...yg ni sian ngan baby sbb nyusu badan....takut perut baby x tahan.......mende makan ni bukan effect pada kita je mana-mana yang breastfeed baby tu effect dia pada baby gak....
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Post time 27-11-2006 11:50 AM | Show all posts
Aleesa1940,

Pantang makanan panas or sejuk tu ada dalam almost all cultures. In medical fields, we called it "Hot and Cold Theory"

Dlm budaya Melayu, ada makanan yg panas, ada yg sejuk, but to tell u, there is no scientific evidence to support this. Dalam kata lainnya, makanan-makanan ni tak akan memberi apa-apa kesan sampingan.Hanya kepercayaan sahaja.

Pantang semasa mengandung dan ketika breastfeeding, ada yg betul, ada yg tidak.
Yang betulnya ialah jgn mengambil sebarang ubat tanpa preskripsi especially during 1st and 3rd trimester mengandung. Rule of thumb: Ubat demam seperti Panadol,Uphamol, ubat-ubat batuk and ubat selsema selamat dimakan ketika mengandung dan breastfeeding. Selamat dimakan even WITHOUT DOC PRESCRIPTIONS. Ubat-ubat lain, especially ANTIBIOTIC, pls ask your doc.

Makanan seperti nenas, timun, sayur menjalar = NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE/EXPLANATION. So, makan sahaja lah. In fact it's good for your health, especially ketika mengandung. To give u clear example, during my medical school days in UK, perempuan-perempuan Mat Saleh ni makan everything. No effect at all. So, personally, pantang larang makanan semasa mengandung ni, in my humble opinion is baseless, tak berasas.

Makanan yg mendatangkan ANGIN:
Yes, food high in Carbohydrate(Kanji) tends to produce gas in your tummy and gut. Example: kekacang, legumes such as ubi kayu, potato.

Makanan yg GATAL:
If u are allergic, then definately u should avoid these food: Seafoods(especially with shell like kerang,ketam,kepah,udang), Ayam, kuning telur, susu.
BUT, u have to test it to your self. Each allergic is unique and specific to u. Means that if A allergic to Ayam, does not mean u allergic to Ayam. Try each day only specific foods, don't mix it up. Example, jgn makan Tomyam Campur coz it contains prawn, chicken, etc.etc.Then u never know what u are allergic to.
Allergic can come and go as it likes. So jgn terperanjat kalau all the while u ok aje makan udang, suddenly tetiba malam semalam lepas makan udang bakar kulit u gatal2 and merah= U ARE ALLERGIC TO PRAWN.

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 Author| Post time 28-11-2006 03:52 AM | Show all posts

Reply #3 RedDevils's post

RedDevils,

Jutaan terima kasih tak terhingga atas jawapan yang bernas dari saudara (or saudari). . this is the answer that I have been waiting for.. berasas.  Jawapan yang diberi telah memberi panduan yang berguna kepada saya.. patutlah hari tu saya bersalin kat hospital (di US), nurses dan doctors kata tak kisah makan apa, asal bukan alcohol sebab saya menyusukan baby, dan saya tak ada alergi kat makanan tu.  bila saya follow nasihat mereka saya dapati saya lebih cepat sihat banding saya ikut pantang rigid ibu saya masa bersalin kali pertama dulu kat Malaysia (yelah pantang ibu saya tu mungkin tak sesuai dgn body saya).
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Post time 16-1-2007 11:59 AM | Show all posts
mcm mana pula dgn ais?
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Post time 16-1-2007 09:40 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aleesa1940 at 27-11-2006 03:00 AM
4) soalan terakhir, ada orang kata setengah makanan 'tajam" dan tak sesuai untuk ibu dalam pantang macam nenas.. betuk ke?.


ok, i once asked this midwife in Belfast Hospital, UK...tanya die pasal nanas.....die kata mmg nenas bahaya kalau makan dalam 2nd an third trimester...sbb nenas ade chemical yang effectnyer macam oxytocin, menyebabkan proses uterus contraction.....so, kalau masa pregnant, yang ditakuti adalah keguguran la.....die tader pulak mention pasal masa dalam pantang.....
        midwife tu cakap bukan nenas je,...ade lagi cthnye grapefruit, kiwi.....tapi entah betul ke taktau la.....so, saya suggesst baik avoid la makan buah2an ni...buat apa amik risiko, sedangkan buah lain byk lagi....
Kalau Allah dah tentukan gugur nak buat camne, tapi sebagai manusia, kita ikhtiar....

[ Last edited by  Arissa_Sofea at 16-1-2007 09:41 PM ]
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Post time 16-1-2007 10:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Arissa_Sofea at 16-1-2007 21:40


ok, i once asked this midwife in Belfast Hospital, UK...tanya die pasal nanas.....die kata mmg nenas bahaya kalau makan dalam 2nd an third trimester...sbb nenas ade chemical yang effectnyer m ...


...banyak pesanan dari orang2 tua mengenai keburukan buah nenas ketika mengandung...tapi...seriously...takde satu research pon yang boleh support kenyataan bahawasanya buah nenas bahaya ketika mengandung...

...ive come across pregnant ladies yang came in for abortion sighing that they took lots and lots of unripe pineapples hoping to induce abortion...but...in the end...they end up on the operating table...

...aku pernah joke ngan dorang jugak...perhaps cara pemakanan mereka tu salah...mungkin jugak dorang kena telan ngan kulit2 dan batang nenas tu sekali...huhuhu...

...gini jer lah...aku rasa kalaulah nenas nie bley mendatangkan keburukan dan ill effects on pregnancy there would definitely be lots of press coverage on this matter...dan the medical field especially would have caught it by now...

...personally...i was once allergic to fresh pineapples...bila makan jer gerenti kluar gata2...muka naik swollen...and had to take antihistamine to reduce the urticaria...but...when i was pregnant...i had a very strong craving for it...so i tried taking it in very small quantity...surprisingly...nothing happened...

...i continued taking pineapples (small amt each time) throughout my pregnancy...alhamdullilah...slamat...

...after the birth of my baby...craving for pineapple stopped...but...strangely...ive got no adverse reaction at all when taking pineapple thereafter...even if i took one whole wedge of it...dah tak de pape dah...

...2nd pregnancy....i had what we called as threatened abortion...but it wasnt very serious...and i still took pineapple cos its sourness helps to reduce my nauseous feeling...but...craving for it this time tak lama sangat...kejap jer...pastu craving for durian pulak...sampailah end of pregnancy...durian almost every other day....end up...baby aku kluar punyalah gebu.....4440gm....*phew!*
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Post time 17-1-2007 01:53 AM | Show all posts

Reply #7 blackmore's post

thanks kak blakmore for a clear picture of this issue....tu laa.....tader pun dalam O&G pasal nenas....huhu....

maybe just 'frowned upon' kot...tader strong research pun...
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Post time 17-1-2007 10:27 AM | Show all posts

Reply #6 Arissa_Sofea's post

mak eda pernah keguguran psl mkn nenas...
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Post time 17-1-2007 09:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by blackmore at 16-1-2007 10:27 PM


...banyak pesanan dari orang2 tua mengenai keburukan buah nenas ketika mengandung...tapi...seriously...takde satu research pon yang boleh support kenyataan bahawasanya buah nenas bahaya keti ...

beza ke tak antara cooked nan uncooked..sbb aku takleh minum air soya...kalo tauhu ker..tempe ker..takper lak..
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Post time 18-1-2007 12:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by honeybee1802 at 17-1-2007 21:49

beza ke tak antara cooked nan uncooked..sbb aku takleh minum air soya...kalo tauhu ker..tempe ker..takper lak..


...eerr...nie ko refer to which one??...pineapples or soya beans???...

...kalau pineapples...aku rasa beza in its acidity contents maybe...canned pineapples and cooked ones are less acidic...

...if u cant take soya milk...fine...makan ajer tahu...:ting:
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Post time 18-1-2007 09:16 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by blackmore at 18-1-2007 12:15 AM


...eerr...nie ko refer to which one??...pineapples or soya beans???...

...kalau pineapples...aku rasa beza in its acidity contents maybe...canned pineapples and cooked ones are less acid ...

apa2 mknan je la...huhuuhu..kenkadang tingin minum soya..tp jap lgk uwek..sakit perut ler...
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