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Assalamu'alaikum..
saya terbaca di dalam Al-'Umm, dalam kitab tuh Imam Shafi'e kata Isyak itu adalah satu pertiga malam..
ada sapa2 boleh bagi penerangan tak tentang hal nih? |
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Ni diterangkan dalam hadith ni :
Abdullah b. Umar reported: We waited one night in expectation of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) for the last prayer of the night, and he came out to us when a third of the night had passed even after that. We do not know whether he had been occupied with family business or something else. When he came cut he said: You are waiting for prayer, for which the followers of no other religion wait. except you. Were it not a burden for my Ummah, I would have led them (in the 'Isya' prayer) at this hour. He then ordered the Mu'adhdbin (to call for prayer) and then stood up for prayer and observed prayer. (Sahih Muslim 4:1334)
'A'isha reported: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) one night delayed (observing the 'Isya' prayer) till a great part of the night was over and the people in the mosque had gone to sleep. He (the Holy Prophet) then came out and observed prayer and said: This is the proper time for it; were it not that I would impose a burden on my people (I would normally pray at this time). In the hadith transmitters by 'Abd al-Razzaq (the words are):" Were it not that it would impose burden on my people." (Sahih Muslim 4:1333) |
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Reply #2 antiQue's post
huh?
kenapa contradiction?
hadith tuh kata boleh solat Isyak lewat, tapi dalam Al-'Umm kata tak boleh.. |
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Reply #4 Gravedigger's post
terpengaruh dengan ajaran ahlul-bait?
bukan ke ahlul bait itu adalah daripada keluarga Rasulullah s.a.w, dan hadith yg di dalam perbincangan itu adalah daripada Saidatina 'Aishah r.a.?
ke ada definisi lain bagi "ahlul-bait" yang di nyatakan oleh bro Gravedigger?
dan mana satu yang betul nih? Sebab dalam A-'Umm tuh cakap kalau solat Isyak lebih daripada 1/3 malam maka ianya tak dikira sebagai solat Isyak...
aisehh kitab tuh ada kat umah member plak... esok baru dapat tengok.. nnt saya clarifykan balik lah.. saya copy and paste bulat2 statement yang ada dalam kitab tersebut... |
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imam syafie tak salah
ahlul bait pun tak salah
kita cume belum dapat nak taufiq kan je masalah ni |
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taufiq.... maksudnyer nak cari kesepakatan...
talfiq ialah pertindihan atau bertindan |
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kata akar dari wafaqa = muafakat |
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Reply #3 gunblade712's post
Ada khilaf pendapat. Syafi'e dan Maliki mengatakan solat awal waktu lebih afdhal untuk semua waktu.Tak silap saya argument yang digunakan oleh Imam Syafie adalah hadith as-solah fi awwali waqtiha. Hadith yang pasal solat di awal waktu adalah keredhaan, di akhir waktu adalah forgiveness, kemaafan. Hanbali yang berpendapat solat awal waktu untuk semua kecuali isya', mengikut hadith kat atas tu.
Bang Grave, pukul 12 malam tu rerasa kira 1/3 malam ke kira nak masuk 1/2 malam kalau kat Malaysia ni? I thought we were discussing about solat isya' 1/3 malam, kan? Waktu akhir solat isya' 1/2 malam ada dalam hadith ni hah :
'Abdullah b. 'Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: The time of the noon prayer is when the sun passes the meridian and a man's shadow is the same (length) as his height, (and it lasts) as long as the time for the afternoon prayer has not come; the time for the afternoon prayer is as long as the sun has not become pale; the time of the evening prayer is as long as the twilight has not ended; the time of the night prayer is up to the middle of the average night and the time of the morning prayer is from the appearance of dawn, as long as the sun has not risen; but when the sun rises, refrain from prayer for it rises between the horns of the devil. (Sahih Muslim 4:1275)
[ Last edited by antiQue at 15-3-2009 14:51 ] |
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kalo dah habih sepertiga malam pun masih blom solat-solat jugak... takkan nak kira burn kot? |
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eh cemane kalau tetido pas mgrhb then tbgn jam 3 am...? isya' burn? |
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Reply #13 mejik's post
Solat je lah.. |
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masa isya untill b4 subuh kan
xde gap? |
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Reply #12 ibnur's post
nnt saya post kan ayat nya.. most probably esok..
dariapda apa yang saya faham, yes, kalau terlajak, then tak dapat waktu Isyaknye.. |
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ades... contradict ngan antique... |
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Er..Nabi bukan pernah kata ke yang kalau boleh, dia nak umat dia melambatkan solat Isyak??? |
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Balas #1 gunblade712\ catat
mmg la waktunya panjang...........................sbb nak mengalakkan kita bertahajud ditengah malam n waktunya sehingga sebelum subuh................semua org tahu |
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Reply #17 mejik's post
Contradict? Tak juga rasanya.. Kes nyer kan ke tak sengaja? Tertidur kan kaedahnya
Saya memegang pada pendapat bahawa solat isya' berakhir pada tengah malam berdasarkan hadith yang saya letakkan di atas, waktu solat isya' dan solat tahajjud tidak bertindih. Tetapi dalam keadaan tertidur dsb, maka dimaafkan untuk mengerjakan solat sebelum subuh menjelma.
Tapi saya tidaklah menafikan pendapat lain yang mengatakan waktu solat isya' tu hingga subuh yang diambil dari satu hadith yg mengatakan waktu solat itu berakhir ketika timbul solat lainnya, kecuali subuh.
[ Last edited by antiQue at 15-3-2009 18:44 ] |
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Reply #21 Gravedigger's post
Malam tu kan mula waktu maghrib? |
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aik???bukan ke waktu isyak tu abis time fajar sodiq??
dan bukan ke syarat nak bertahajjud tu kena tido dulu???
pada aku la kan...imam syafie tu ikut masa kat tanah arab.sana kul 7.30 malam dah isyak.kul 3 pagi dah subuh.
maghrib tu dah kire malam.yang imam syafie cakap tu bermaksud isyak stat@bermula sepertiga malam... |
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Balas #25 Gravedigger\ catat
btol la ko cakap tu.time solat kite solat la.watpe nak tangguh2.
sok nak mati pon mintak tangguh ka??? |
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