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Post time 17-1-2010 07:44 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Post Last Edit by ibnur at 18-1-2010 20:53

salam,
sbb mod sudah close thread n naik hangin so i took the responsibility....sbenarnya utk melepaskan diri dari tanggungjwb bila dpt sesuatu yg benar kena sebarkan...but i didnt want to check the kesahihan n let u guys do the homework since i am no longer buying this thing....utk mod yg menghalang kebenaran juga akan dipertanggungjawabkan nanti so sendiri kena fikir ...secara matang...jgn mare..

A quotefrom Quran : “O ye who believe! Eat of the good things wherewith Wehave provided you, and render thanks to Allah if it is (indeed) He whomye worship” (2:172).

so lets check this website

http://ummisal.multiply.com/jour ... alal_to_drink......

n this website

http://www.muslimconsumergroup.c ... ct&menu=Product

yang pangkah2 tu semua tak halal...

susu ibu adalah yg terbaik....jgn lupa
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Post time 17-1-2010 08:22 PM | Show all posts
A quote from Quran : “O ye who believe! Eat of the good things where with We have provided you, and render thanks to Allah if it is (indeed) He whom ye worship” (2:172).

so lets check this website

http://ummisal.multiply.com/jour ... alal_to_drink......

n this website

http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/Product.do;jsessionid=5E16E1556D3C52CF3C241554A4E420F2?d-1342853-p=2&eventAction=newfoodarchives&eventAction=newfoodarchives&menu=Product&menu=Product

yang pangkah2 tu semua tak halal...

susu ibu adalah yg terbaik....jgn lupa


susah nak baca, tepek balik..
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 Author| Post time 17-1-2010 10:39 PM | Show all posts
baru jap tgk halaqah...subnallah...subhanallah...kisah imam shaffie..

then teringat dari kuliah usuludin saya, pensyarah cerita betapa pentingnya kita menajga makanan dari sumber2 yg halal dan baik...dlm halaqah tadi pun ust zahazan sebut

'imam syafie pernah berlapar selama 16 tahun dan sekali sahaja dia kenyang,..itu pun dia luahkan semula makanan tu bila timbul was2..makanan itu hasil syubahah'

imam syafie semasa kecilnya ibu nya begitu menjaga pemakanannya, sehinggakan kambing yg susunya diperah khas utk minuman syafie di kurung dlm kawasan berhampiran rumahnya tidak dibiarkan lepas bebas kerana ibunya takut kambing itu meragut tanaman orang dan terhasil susu yg tidak membawa berkat utk anak nya imam syafie tadi...padahal nya dlm hukum ni jika binatang tu meragut tanaman orang lain pun tak lah sampai haram or berdosa...begitulah sekali ibunya prihatin bab makanan utk melahirkan ulama besar seperti syafie..yg hafal quran pd umur 7 tahun, dan hafal kitab...**** saya lupa nama kitab ni..kitab tulisan imam malik tok guru nya sendiri dlm masa 9 hari..ulama lain yg belajar dari imam malik sampai 40 tahun pun tak hafal kitab ni..dgr halaqah tadi mengenai isi kandungan kitab ni berapa ratus ribu hadith sahih .....

masa dia belajar dgn imam malik dia tak ada bawa alat tulis pun tapi dia sentiasa menulis diatas tapak tangannya...tulis guna jari...bila di intai imam malik tapak tangannya kosong aja tak ada tulisan pun..

ingatan nya begitu kuat ..apa lagi kalau bukan dari asuhan yg baik sejak kecil..

tips ust zahazan tadi jaga lah pemakanan..pastikan sumber yg halal dan baik...halallan toyiban...kerana dari makanan ini lah terhasilnya darah yg mengalir..tumbuhnya daging, tulang...and all those things pd diri seseorang...

you are what you eat...semalam saya share cerita my best fren yg liat bab amal ibadat kan.ambil lah iktibar...sbb sy tgk benda ni berjangkit pada anak...dia pernah gaduh besar dgn anak sulung sbb pilihan bidang di U...lastly anak dara dia smashed dia...i am going to be better than u....tetap dgn pilihannya..hbs matrix anaknya tk layak pun masuk bidang tu tak cukup pointer...
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Post time 18-1-2010 10:51 AM | Show all posts
2# kroit92
Baru je nak cakap sakit mata baca. Tq anyway

Kak Suria, x patutlah kita tuduh sesiapa menghalang kebenaran. I guessemail yg kita sebarkan tu sebaik2nya biarlah sahih. Kalau kitamenyebarkan yg x betul, takut kita jatuh dlm kategori memfitnah. Ormaybe kita boleh letak kat forum dlm nada bertanya like benarkah?meaning mcm kita minta tlg org lain cari kesahihan berita.

Lately me tengok ada yg bukak tred pastu tinggal mcm tu saje as ifsesaje nak kasi panas. Org lain plak yg bertekak dan jadi kurengcerdik. Personally, me x kesah pun org nak sebarkan email dlm tred tptuan tred kena participate. Sama2 bincang n ambik keputusan. (walau punselalunya bincang kat forum x de keputusan. Semua nak menang. Tp mestiada yg boleh buat kesimpulan sendiri2. Sendiri fikir dan ambik mana ygbaik. Bak kata nabil. Lu fikirlah sendiri!)

Mengenai keperluan mencari pemakanan yg halal, me setuju dgn cikgu. Infact byk dah tred kat sini.
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Post time 18-1-2010 12:52 PM | Show all posts
Maaf, tadi saya tutup sebab link tu tak boleh klik dan tak tau dia pergi mana.

Saya dah cuba edit tapi link tu still tak leh klik, jadi saya tepek sini link dan harap insha Allah boleh ler klik.

http://www.muslimconsumergroup.c ... ion=newfoodarchives
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Post time 18-1-2010 12:53 PM | Show all posts
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 Author| Post time 18-1-2010 03:56 PM | Show all posts
Sbb tu sy bg link sbb x cerdik sgt bab copy n paste ni jd x lawa.
Persatuan ni blh kita rely on their findings. Utk UK blh tgk web UK halal food guide. Org biasa dok overc mesti biasa refer kat sini.
Kat sana pengguna sgt2 dilindungi. U blh write to anycompany minta list. Ingredient. Last yr kilang chewing Wrigley kat malysia byk ni siap afa chop halal jakim. Kilng ni tls pd persatuan pengguna ni ' we r sorry as we r no longer can use @@@@@ x ingt term chemicalnya ... From source of vegetable. Starting ... Dia bg date.. We have to use substance frm animal. Sorry to our Moslem consumer. Sejak tu sy x mkn chewing gum ni tp kalau sy tls haram kat sini nanti org claim Ada chop jakim. Padahal kilang sendiri declare. Selak Lah page lama I pun x ingt kat Uk punya or Us punya persatuan. But it was there once upon a time.
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Post time 18-1-2010 08:55 PM | Show all posts
oooo....  rupanya ada close url di tengah-tengah tu.  saya dah buang.
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Post time 19-1-2010 08:36 AM | Show all posts
nak tanye. can we use US punya halal certification? sometimes lain region lain bahan dia gunakan. I think we have to look deeper than the brand, but the ingredient itself.
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Post time 19-1-2010 09:30 AM | Show all posts
9# kucingblue

Ye betul! Tengok ingredients. Kdg2 product yg sama tp keluaran lain2tempat/negara. Kalau barang tu memang confirmed imported, bleh la kita truston country tu punya certification
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Post time 19-1-2010 09:59 AM | Show all posts
9# kucingblue

Ye betul! Tengok ingredients. Kdg2 product yg sama tp keluaran lain2tempat/negara. Kalau barang tu memang confirmed imported, bleh la kita truston country tu punya certification
HOTlips Post at 18-1-2010 17:30


I think the closest Abbott factory to Malaysia is in Singapore.
http://www.abbott.com.sg/abbott_ams/ams_manufacturing_plant.asp

There's a good chance that kilang tu yang buat product untuk dijual kat Malaysia. Importing it from the US will make such product extremely expensive for Malaysians.
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 Author| Post time 19-1-2010 10:12 AM | Show all posts
yes true mesti tgk ingredients...ada byk website in this internet will teach you what kind of scientific names that always associated with animal substance..

i took one course on this thing just to clear my guilty concious...kerana hati sentiasa was was..rasa syubahah all the time ...food chemistry..

ada one ust beri ceramah kat masjid..he said kalau orang jemput saya ke rumah saya minta maaf saya cuma blh minum air putih sahaja dan tak dpt menerima pelwaan utk makan kerana saya takut dgn makanan yg bukan dari rumah saya sendiri..saya menjaga apa yg saya makan utk amalan saya supaya tidak termasuk unsur2 haram or syubahah..
mula saya fikir ..he was not being nice..pegi rumah org tak makan..bt somehow bila belajar tasawuf baru faham..utk meningkatkan diri secara rohani n physical utk mencapai makrifatullah ada byk perkara yg mesti dijaga especially makanan...

orang2 sufi tidak akan makan hasil tangan org tak solat, orang kafir etc etc semalam baca article tentang makanan dan amal ibadat...berlapar/ berpuasa adalah lbh baik utk meningkatkan taraf amalan kita...
last nite kuliah maghrib pulak ust said tanda2 orang yg taubat nya diterima allah...taubat ni tak semestinya after ada dosa besar...setiap ketika kita disarankan bertaubat..nabi yg tak ada dosa tu pun taubat sentiasa...so tanda2 taubat diterima...hati kita semakin hampir kepada allah..rasa seronok beramal ibadat..tak ada liat tak ada malas lagi...renung balik diri sendiri ada off and on season ...mayb makan benda syubahah?

kena baca penghulu istighfar setiap hari pagi dan petang...jgn lupa..tak tau? download je..or dlm zikir mathurat ada..
sape yg baca penghulu istigfhar ni kalau baca pagi dia meninggal lepas tu insyallah masuk syurga, kalau baca petang meninggal lepas tu insyallah masuk syurga...so baca lah 2x sehari..ni sudah lari tajuk..jgn mare mod..
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Post time 19-1-2010 10:16 AM | Show all posts
hmm, you know what, even kalau bahan yang digunakan di kedua-dua continent are exactly the same, they may come from different sources. so i guess we are not gonna get the answer from the list of ingredients alone.

so I guess you'd have to depend on halal certification. Kalo takde, I guess the status is was-was, baik elakkan.

But here's what I found.

http://www.singaporehalaldirecto ... panyProfile_MG.aspx

ABBOTT MANUFACTURING SINGAPORE PTE LTD         

Address:        
26 Tuas South Avenue 10 Singapore 637437
Telephone:        
(65) 6500 8500
Fax:        
(65) 6500 8501
Categories:
       
HALAL Certified Products -> Dairy Products
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 Author| Post time 19-1-2010 10:25 AM | Show all posts
kalau di US..pengilang tak berani tipu consumers...they have to list out all ingriedients utk melepasi FDA..food apa tu ah..what do they call it..so its very strict over there...sblm sesuatu product dipasarkan utk dpt kelulusan dari FDA ni mesti melalui 'screen test' like that..baru dpt certificate dan baru blh pasarkan product...

not like here..sape pun blh come out with a product dan pasarkan...

when i was there memang rely on moslem consumer ni utk dptkan list barang2 halal...bila balik sini terkejtu..ada satu cookies kat sana memang haram..nabisco brand tgk di jual di rak supermarket di malaysia..plus a few other products...
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Post time 19-1-2010 10:43 AM | Show all posts
14# sunsuria3
Betul tu. Personally, i lebih trust yg luar negara belah2 Us, barat.
Kalau ada animal fat ke apa dia org tulis siap2. Sebab animal fat lebih mahal kan harganya? Masa study dulu, kalau nak beli apa2 like roti me just based on that. Kalau dia x tulis animal fat, wine etc, InsyaAllah, halal
Belah2 Asia ni esp China, Malaysia tanah air ku, oh! byk kes dah.

Nak tak nak kena rely on JAKIM lah. Depa pun dah ambik tanggung jawab nih so depa kena buat keje betul2 lah. If not, jumpa di sana di sana!!!
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 Author| Post time 19-1-2010 10:51 AM | Show all posts
cuba tgk page lain di website tu 'gerber' baby food yg memenag directly import from US also not halal....da byk di rak supermarket....once upon a time i used to buy these products too..padahal it was just fruits, pure juice and vegetables??? but they stil put something else inside it,,
one day kena marah dgn doctor...my kid kena diarrhea..dr asked what did u gv him.told him gerber food from the bottle he he..he scolded me...why dont u make your own fruits n vetegable souce..u know how long it takes to produce this thing and how long it has been in the supermarket? giv something fresh from the kitchen....

now they are grown up ...think of it...the eldest, the one who drank formula milk from japan eating food from US he he ..less quality compared to the second child... not in academically but spiritually...so parents take note...
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Post time 19-1-2010 11:00 AM | Show all posts
14# sunsuria3
Belah2 Asia ni esp China, Malaysia tanah air ku, oh! byk kes dah.

Nak tak nak kena rely on JAKIM lah. Depa pun dah ambik tanggung jawabnih so depa kena buat keje betul2 lah. If not, jumpa di sana di sana!!!
HOTlips Post at 18-1-2010 19:43


Saya banyak kali lihat ingredient makanan dari Japan
yg masuk Malaysia ada yg tak sepenuhnya dilabelkan balik dgn betul
Bila baca balik yg jepun punya dgn yg ditranslate
Harap pihak JAKIM kena pantau benda ni.
Terutama bab shortening yg dipakai dalam biskut.
Kalau guna animal,patutnya label tu cakap.
Jangan tulis shortening je.
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Post time 19-1-2010 11:02 AM | Show all posts
Kalau ada animal fat ke apa dia org tulis siap2. Sebab animal fat lebih mahal kan harganya? Masa study dulu, kalau nak beli apa2 like roti me just based on that. Kalau dia x tulis animal fat, wine etc, InsyaAllah, halal
Belah2 Asia ni esp China, Malaysia tanah air ku, oh! byk kes dah.
HOTlips Post at 19-1-2010 10:43


Tak pasti secara umum animal fat lebih mahal atau murah dari plant origin, rasanya lebih murah tapi ada juga yang lebih mahal. Namun, kat UK/US/Europe biasanya ditulis animal fat kerana untuk menghormati mereka yang vegetarian, walaupun bukan non-Muslim. Maka, ada sedikit kemudahan kepada Muslim dengan adanya golongan vegetarian tersebut.

Lagi satu, mungkin juga sebab kesihatan. Di sana, bahan yang boleh menjadi allergy selalunya ditulis. Memang ada orang yang allergy kepada lemak haiwan tertentu, seperti lemak babi, jadi sumber2 yang diketahui secara umum sebagai punca allergy mesti dilabelkan dengan betul
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 Author| Post time 19-1-2010 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Animal Fat if frm Babi = lard, is very very cheap. Byk cookies made frm lard. Musim winter lg selonggok kat s/ mkt. They used as bahan tumis masakan utk panaskan badan di musim sejuk tu.
Jakim is good the prob is dia org tak update status tak buat surprise visit utk pastikan kilang2 tu maintain using halal I gredient. Somebody told me lack of kaki n tangan di jakim itself. Now Ada company swasta pula I don't know hw reliable are they inthis business
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 Author| Post time 19-1-2010 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Plant origin lbh mahal
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