Isu convert budak2 bawah umur tanpa kebenaran ibu di Perlis Darul Sunnah

atira

Tak de siapa buka tered pasal ni ke?
buat malu ummah betul la.

Mufti admits kids brought to Perlis to be unilaterally converted, didn’t check where mother was
Thursday, 17 Feb 2022 04:12 PM MYT

BY RADZI RAZAK


KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 17 — Perlis Mufti Datuk Mohd Asri Zainul has admitted yesterday that the state had unilaterally converted three underaged children of Loh Siew Hong without her knowledge nor presence.


Mohd Asri said the children’s father had brought the children to be converted at the Perlis Religious Department in July 2020 without knowing the mother’s whereabouts, and the department had taken his word for it.

“When asked where their mother was, the father said he didn’t know. He wanted to request that his children become Muslim. So the religious department registered them as Muslim. They weren’t registered at the National Registration Department.


“Their father brought them. We didn’t research where their mother was. Their father said he did not know where their mother was, so we let them become Muslim,” he said in a video posted on his Facebook yesterday.

Yesterday,  Loh had sent a letter of demand to the Islamic councils in three states to provide written proof that she consented to the religious conversion of her three young children who were raised as Hindus.

Lawyer Shamsher Singh Thind, who is representing Loh, said the three religious councils of Perlis, Kedah and Penang have been given seven days starting February 16 to provide the documents proving she had consented to their conversion.

Asri also said the Perlis religious authorities were not aware that the Kuala Lumpur High Court had granted Loh full custody of her children in March 2021. At the time, the children were in Perlis.

He said the children had been brought to Perlis before the court’s letter on the matter “reached their hands”.

“The court letter was between her and her husband, it wasn’t addressed to us.”

“The children were converts, the father was in jail, so we took care of them. Then we heard that someone wanted to take them. We continued looking after them because we didn’t know about the court order,” he said.

However, Asri said the father was jailed for drug offences several months after their conversion that the Perlis religious authorities had no qualms with handing over the children to Loh, if that was what they wanted.

“If they want to return to their mother, we have no problem. The problem is that the children don’t want to,” he said.

The video showed Asri being asked to comment on the matter as it courted controversy and criticisms from several quarters.

The Perlis mufti denied any wrongdoings on his part, instead accused “DAP, activists and the media” of playing up the issue.

Yesterday, Bernama reported her meeting with her three children at a welfare institution under the Perlis Social Welfare Department yesterday, according to the Women, Family And Community Development (KPWKM) Ministry.

In a statement, KPWKM said the meeting took place in the afternoon.

On Monday, Malay Mail reported Loh, a single mother who has been searching for her three children, who were taken away from her by a third party.

Loh said her children were taken from her after she had divorced from her husband on March 19, 2019 at the same time she was hospitalised due to a fractured leg.

atira

kesimpulan.
mak pak bercerai
mak cedera kat hospital
pak bawa anak ke perlis
convert budak2 tanpa kebenarana ibu
pak masuk penjara-taik dadah
minta org lain jaga anak
ibu tak dibenarkan jumpa anak

syumul

krustykrab

Lps kes ni harap2 staff jab agama tlg ringan2kn bontot tu buat keje lebih sikit...tlg amend sop jabatan bila ada kes nak convert anak2 unilateral. Biar lambat convert asal tak jadi mcm ni..jgn sb benda mcm ni, org anggap islam ni mcm2.
Pasal dr maza jumpa bebudak ni and diorg kata tak nak balik kat mak n si mak pulak kata masa jumpa anak2, diorg nak balik kat dia...susah nak percaya..aku rasa bebudak ni bila jumpa mak, diorg takut terus ckp mcm tu..bila jumpa dr asri takut diapa2kan terus ckp mcm ni..
Seeloknya cuba cari pakar kanak2 atau cuba interview kawan2 diorg kat rmh kebajikan tu, baru blh tau apa isi hati diorg.

atira

krustykrab replied at 18-2-2022 10:50 AM
Lps kes ni harap2 staff jab agama tlg ringan2kn bontot tu buat keje lebih sikit...tlg amend sop jaba ...

isu sensitif. tapi buat sambil lewa. last2 salah DAP bila kantoi

atira

A mother should not be separated from her children, says Penang mufti as debate grows over latest unilateral conversion case
Thursday, 17 Feb 2022 03:41 PM MYT

BY OPALYN MOK

Penang Mufti Datuk Seri Wan Salim Wan Mohd Nor is seen at an event in George Town November 25, 2019. — Picture by Sayuti Zainudin



GEORGE TOWN, Feb 17 — Penang Mufti Datuk Seri Wan Salim Wan Mohd Noor has called on the authorities to find a way for Hindu mother, Loh Siew Hong, to regularly meet with her three children who were said to have been unilaterally converted to Islam.


He said the bonds between a mother and her children should never be severed due to differences in religion.

“I do not want to take sides in this case but it is my understanding based on Islamic teachings, the Quran and Hadith of the Prophet that a bond between a mother and her children should never be broken,” he said in a brief statement when Malay Mail contacted him today for comment.


He stressed that Islam is a beautiful, just and religion of grace that emphasises on being caring and tolerant among each other.


“The question of which religion that one embraces is up to the respective individual,” he said.

He stressed that the embracing of Islam is dependent on guidance from Allah.

“In Islam, there is no question of force in embracing the religion and this is what we want everyone to understand,” he said.

Wan Salim was commenting on the issue of Loh, who was given limited time to visit her three children who were allegedly unilaterally converted to Islam.

The three children, a son aged 10 and twin daughters 14 years old, are currently under the care of the Perlis Welfare Department pending Loh’s habeas corpus application hearing on February 21.

Loh, a single mother who is currently on unpaid leave from her job as a chef in Genting Highlands, Pahang, had been separated from her three children since 2019 following her hospitalisation.

The children’s father took them away before he was jailed for a drug offence. They were later taken in by a third party from an Islamic non-governmental organisation without Loh’s knowledge or consent.

Loh was granted full custody of all her three children by the Kuala Lumpur High Court in January 2021.

She was able to meet her children briefly on February 14 at the Kangar district police headquarters in Perlis.

Decaffeinated

thread dah ada dibahas panjang lebar

tapi pengakuan MAZA ni takde update lagi kot

atira

Decaffeinated replied at 18-2-2022 11:17 AM
thread dah ada dibahas panjang lebar

tapi pengakuan MAZA ni takde update lagi kot

aku search tered tak jumpa hilang entah di mana.
Jadi updatenye MAZA ngaku tak check tentang mak dan undang2 perlis kata okay tapi bercanggah dgn federal constitution

Redskin

Biasala kapiaq DAPigs spin cerita dan mainkan isu perkauman..

Mengatakan budak2 itu di CULIK. Suatu tuduhan yg berat ni.
Padahal budak2 itu dibawa oleh BAPA mereka sendiri seorang India yg beragama HINDU
ke NGO ISLAM dan BAPAnya sendiri meminta/memberi kebenaran supaya anak2 itu diIslamkan.

Petikan Berita dari Thread sebelah...

Loh dan suaminya, Nagahswaran Muniandy berpisah pada Mac 2019, dan tidak lama kemudian wanita itu terasing dengan anak-anak.


Nagahswaran dilaporkan melarikan tiga kanak-kanak itu ketika ketiadaan Loh dan

menukar agama dan menempatkan mereka di sebuah NGO berkaitan Islam.


Nagahswaran kini menjalani hukuman penjara atas kesalahan berkaitan dadah.

Persoalannya mengapa seorang bapa India yg beragama HINDU bawak anak2 ke NGO yg berkaitan dgn Islam??

Boleh saje bapanya bawak kebadan kebajikan NGO Bukan Islam utk menjaga anak2 itu.
Disini kita boleh nampak tujuan sebenar bapanya.

Menuduh Islam MEMAKSA anak2 itu convert kpd Islam.

Kononnya di convert TIADA kebenaran ??
Kalau dah BAPA budak2 itu sendiri yg memberi kebenaran, soooo...??

Lagipon soal hati ini urusan Tuhan, kalo mulut kata Islam tapi hati tak redho,
hati memberontak nak jadik kafir, pendirian agama akan berubah juga.

Budak2 tu jadi muallaf dah lama since 2020 kalo tak silap, meaning bapa India itu SEDAR dan TAHU
anak2nya Islam. Baru skrg ni bapanya dipenjara atas kes dadah.

So kat mana yg dikatakan tiada mendapat kebenaran. Bapaknya sendiri bagi kebenaran.

Dengar budak2 tu pon dah besar 14 thn dan 10 thn, walaupon belom lagi legal age tapi
dah ceredik dan boleh membuat keputusan.

Walau apapon, ibubapa TIDAK PATUT dipisahkan dari anak2 mereka.


Kenyataan dari DrMaza, masalahnya budak2 itu sendiri tidak mahu bersama ibu mereka.


Buat live, dengar dari mulut budak2 itu sendiri disaksikan Hakim, peguam2 dan press
supaya semua orang tahu dan dengar pengakuan dari budak2 itu sendiri.


Isu yg sama dimainkan oleh ex muntri perpaduan Moorthy suatu ketika dulu, yg memburukkan Islam dan Msia
diluar negara mengatakan orang2 Hindu dipaksa memeluk Islam, beribu2 kuil Hindu dimusnahkan
diMsia dan banyak lagi FITNAH2 yg memburukkan Msia.

Peegidahhh tambii suka buat fitnah...

Decaffeinated

atira replied at 18-2-2022 12:05 PM
aku search tered tak jumpa hilang entah di mana.
Jadi updatenye MAZA ngaku tak check tentang mak da ...

nah pi lah update

https://b.cari.com.my/forum.php? ... p;extra=&page=1

Dwdrum

Sepatut nya sudah boleh propose emancipation law... Tidak pasti if di n
Malaysia sudah ada.... Nampak seperti parent tidak fikir hak anak as individual... Parent tidak   fit untuk jadi parent

Artemesiaa

Thread dah ada semalam

asamfish

As Dr.Maza always preach in his teachings ' Mufti pun ada buat silap'.  So...Dr.Maza, please walk the talk.  Admit your mistake.  Tak perlu nak menegakkan benang basah.  Dan anak2 yang belum mumayyiz tidak boleh dipisah dari ibu atau bapa.  Melainkan terbukti kesalahan si ibu atau si bapa.  Tak perlu nak mengislamkan mereka kerana anak2 yang belum mumayyiz adalah belum matang dalam pemikiran mereka.

elbecks

ikut UU syariah perlis mmg diorg boleh islamkan anak secara unilateral.dari segi prosedur aku rasa betul dah JAIP buat.lagipun bapak diorg yg bawak diorg bukan maza gi jumpa budak tu tarik masuk islam.

LoveSungmin

TeropongThaico

Semoga Allah memberi yg terbaik utk anak2 ini dunia akhirat. Letakkam mereka ditempat yg sepatutnya bersama penjaga disisi yg menjaga mereka sebaiknya. Kesian mereka kecil2 lg sudah diheret dlm konflik ibu bapa & agama

atira

Redskin replied at 18-2-2022 12:20 PM
Biasala kapiaq DAPigs spin cerita dan mainkan isu perkauman..

Mengatakan budak2 itu di CULIK. Sua ...

bapaknye abusive.
mahkamah beri hak penjagaan pada ibu.
sebelum court order sampai ke tangan, paknye dah bawa lari anak ke perlis.
culik yang halal maybe sbb tak sempat terima court order

budak2 ni jawapan ikut siapa org tu... bapaknye tanya offcourse nak ke bapak. mak dia tanya, nak ke mak.. tak hairan sbb maybe takut kene marah/pukul lagi2 bapaknye ada history pendera

bytheway, kalau budak2 ni betul percaya allah, alhamdulillah cuma why la tak bincang baik2 dgn maknye.
dari maknye kata tak kisah anak dia nak agama apa pon, sekarang maybe dah tertutup hati.
kalau elok2 caranye, aku yakin mak dia syukur je sbb kita dah jaga anak depa elok2 sewaktu mereka susah

atira

by the way, mufti penang dah minta maaf


Mufti P Pinang mohon maaf atas komen berkait isu pengislaman anak Loh
PETALING JAYA: Mufti Pulau Pinang, Wan Salim Wan Mohd Noor memohon maaf jika komen yang dibuatnya sebelum ini berhubung isu pengislaman tiga anak ibu tunggal, Loh Siew Hong ditafsirkan sebagai menyebelahi satu pihak sahaja.
Beliau berkata, selepas mendengar dan mengikuti penjelasan Mufti Perlis Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, beliau memahami perkara sebenar yang berlaku dalam isu berkenaan.“Oleh kerana itu saya mohon maaf sekiranya beberapa komen yang saya buat sebelum ini tentang isu berkenaan boleh ditafsirkan sebagai menyebelahi ibu kanak-kanak tersebut,” katanya kepada FMT.

Wan Salim bagaimanapun menegaskan kebebasan seseorang untuk memilih agama untuk dianuti mesti dihormati sebagai hak mutlak setiap individu.“Sebenarnya sikap saya selama-lamanya adalah kebebasan seseorang untuk memilih agama untuk dianuti mesti dihormati sebagai hak mutlak setiap individu. Saya juga membantah tindakan ekstrem mana-mana pihak sehingga mengancam kebebasan beragama di mana-mana jua.“Biarlah seseorang memilih agama yang dikehendakinya tanpa diganggu kerana itu adalah hak setiap individu yang dijamin oleh perlembagaan negara kita dan direstui oleh agama Islam yang agung, unggul dan anggun,” katanya.
Semalam, menerusi siaran langsung di Facebook Asri dilaporkan berkata, pengislaman tiga anak Loh sah bawah undang-undang negeri Perlis dan ia tidak boleh dipertikaikan.
Asri berkata, bawah enakmen Islam Perlis, sama ada bapa, ibu atau penjaga boleh mengislamkan anak di bawah umur.Terdahulu, FMT melaporkan Wan Salim berkata, pihak berkuasa boleh mengarahkan ulama dan mufti menyemak fatwa sedia ada berhubung kebebasan memilih agama susulan kes Jabatan Agama Islam Perlis mendaftarkan tiga kanak-kanak sebagai Islam tanpa kehadiran ibu mereka.Katanya, beliau ambil maklum berhubung desakan sesetengah pihak supaya had umur untuk memilih agama ditingkatkan lagi sehingga seseorang mencapai usia baligh dan “lain-lain pandangan lagi”.
Ketika ini, tiga anak Loh itu dijaga oleh Jabatan Kebajikan Masyarakat di Perlis sementara menunggu permohonan habeas corpus yang difailkan oleh beliau di Mahkamah Tinggi Kuala Lumpur didengar Isnin depan.

domestobot

bagi la balik bebudak tu kat mak diaorang. korang gerenti takut diaorg tak jadi Islam lagi kan? padahal bapak diaorg punya pasal mengislamkan tanpa persetujuan.