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Post time 11-10-2006 10:46 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Betulkan saya jika saya silap..dan maaf jika kata2 saya ini ade yg bole membuat orang lain marah or rasa x selesa..

nak mintak pendapat kawan2..
kita sedia maklumm... yg mana pendapatan bank ini adalah besar hasilnya daripada Riba'  dan kita pon sedia maklum.. duit hasil daripada Riba' adalah Haram.. dan orang yang berkerja di bank pon di gaji dgn duit daripada hasil bank (Riba').. ape pendapat kawan2 sekalian dgn perkara ini.. haramkah kerja di bank?duit gaji kerja di Bank mcm mana?..

Maaf kan saya jika tersilap..betulkan salah silap saya.. saya cuma bertanya...Wallahualam..

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Post time 11-10-2006 11:01 AM | Show all posts
dah terlanjur kerja kat bank.. kerja lah.. tapi at the same time.. cuba tukar pekerjaan tu.. skang kan dah banyak bank yang ada perbankan Islam.. so try2 la tukar.. mungkin anda akan dapat rezeki yang lebih berkat di tempat lain.. InsyaAllah.

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Post time 11-10-2006 11:05 AM | Show all posts
Saya dulu pun keje kat bank kejap, CITIBANK. hari-hari kene suh orang joint supaya isi borang yg ade kaitan dngn riba. Saya hanya bekerja selama 3 bulan je. sepanjang 3 bln tu memang rasa tak tenteram. Allah slamatkan saya. saya berenti akhirnya dan keje kat tempat lain ........
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Post time 11-10-2006 11:31 AM | Show all posts
Name of Questioner
Ali   - Qatar
       
Title
Working with Banks

Question
What is the Islamic ruling regarding working with banks?

       

Date
10/Feb/2004
       

Name of Mufti
Yusuf Al-Qaradawi
       

Topic
Earning livelihood, Finance & Banking

Answer:
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Almighty Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, thank you very much for having confidence in us, and we hope our efforts, which are purely for Allah's Sake, meet your expectations.

In the first place, we would like to stress that every committed Muslim should work with his heart and tongue and devote his energy to upgrade Muslim抯 economic system. Indeed, this is a reachable goal that is not impossible.

Responding to the question, the eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states the following:

"The Islamic economic system is based on fighting usury. Islam declared usury as one of the major sins that brings about disasters and societal destruction. It wreaks havoc in this life and a great penalty in the hereafter, as Allah says in the Qur抋n: 揂llah will deprive usury of blessing but will give increase for deeds of charity, for He loves not creatures ungrateful and wicked.

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 Author| Post time 11-10-2006 12:11 PM | Show all posts
aku pon dulu pernah keje kat bank.. 2 bank lagi aku keje..huhuhuh..
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Post time 11-10-2006 12:24 PM | Show all posts
pandangan dr yusuf tu.. ada betulnya.. tapi berapa kerat yang bekerja dgn niat nak tukar sistem? rasanya yang ramai bekerja nak cari makan.. dahtu bos or what ever instruction.. main follow je.. takde berkatnya.. if rasa tak mampu..cau je cari keja lain..
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:08 PM | Show all posts
ustaz sy kate gini tau..

klau blh,carila kje lain dr kje kt bank2 yg ade kaitan ngn riba tu.
mmg tanggungjawab kite utk cr yg halal kn.

TAPI..

skrg susah nk cari kje yg betui2 kite nk kn.

lgpn,ade brp je bank2 islam kt sini.


jd, dlm keadaan yg lbhkrg 'darurat' ni, takkn awk tak nk kje kn?? walaupn kt tmpt yg ade kaitan ngn riba.
takdela duit nk hidup klau tak kje..betui?

jadi, kite ijtihad sndri2 yg kite akn cari yg halal smbl kje kt tmpt2 ber- riba tu.

wallah hu a'alam.:lebai:
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:16 PM | Show all posts
assalamu`alaikum

ni ada lagi

Name of Questioner
Salim
       

Title
IT Job for a Bank
       

Question
        Dear scholars, as-Salamu `alaykum. Please help us to find the right way in our life. I am a software engineer working for a software company. My company is financed by an Islamic bank. The focus of our software company for the coming year is the banking field and most of the clients are banks. The problem I am facing now is that the project that I am supposed to work on next is for banking software and most of the banks that I am going to work with are not Islamic banks. I ask you to guide me whether that work for a bank is haram (unlawful) even though I am not directly working for the bank. Jazakum Allah khayran.
       

Date
29/Aug/2006
       

Name of Counsellor
        Monzer Kahf
       

Topic Earning livelihood

Answer:

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother in Islam, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.

As regards your question, we抎 like to state that it is permissible to work in any department in a conventional bank as long as you do not prepare any interest-based contracts or sign them on behalf of the bank.

Here is the fatwa issued by Dr. Monzer Kahf, a prominent economist and counselor, who states:

    It is permissible to work in any department in a conventional bank, credit department, the IT or software department or others, as long as you do not prepare any interest-based contracts or sign them on behalf of the bank.

    This is the opinion of the greatest Shari`ah scholar of our time, the late Sheikh Mustafa Al-Zarqa (died 1999), Sheikh Al-Qaradawi, Sheikh As-Salami of Tunisia and Sheikh Adh-Dhareer of Sudan. The argument is that such jobs in conventional banks are not included in the wrath of Allah that is mentioned by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) on the giver of riba (interest), its taker, its writer and its two witnesses (reported by Muslim). Besides, a prohibition of working in banks places unnecessary inconvenience and hardship on Muslims both in the Muslim majority countries and Muslim communities of other countries.

Dr. Monzer adds:

    Working in conventional banks is not haram unless the worker is in the area of making loan contracts with customers. If you are in IT, you do not make these contracts and your work is permissible. To claim otherwise requires evidence from Shari`ah because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) declared that the wrath of Allah is on the riba's taker, giver, writer and witnesses. You do not have to extend this la`nah (wrath) to word processors, tellers, IT or software persons and guards of a bank. Besides, not all conventional banks' activities are in the area of interest; they also provide several other permissible services.

http://www.islamonline.net/servl ... p;cid=1119503547406

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Post time 11-10-2006 03:31 PM | Show all posts
hrmm
ye ker
aku penah keje bank..
setaun gak ar aku keje cna..
haram ker..aku xpenah terpkir lak..

[ Last edited by  danisha at 12-10-2006 04:02 PM ]
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:34 PM | Show all posts
hrmm
ye ker
aku penah keje kat bank...
setaun gak ar aku keje cna..
haram ker..aku xpenah terpkir lak..

[ Last edited by  danisha at 12-10-2006 04:02 PM ]
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:50 PM | Show all posts
apapun semuannya ada hikmah..aku pun penah keje kat bank..tapi malas aa nak mention nama bank tue..buat sakit ati jer..huhuu
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Post time 11-10-2006 04:08 PM | Show all posts
Saya pun penah 2 th keja kat bank.. tapi atas kesedaran akhirnya saya berhenti dan keja kat tempat lain....
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Post time 11-10-2006 04:34 PM | Show all posts
Jadi sape2 yang ambik course perbankan (DIB) kat uitm tu kiranya kena tukar course la ye
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Post time 11-10-2006 04:49 PM | Show all posts
keje pertama abg sulung aku masa dia memula dtg kl....keje ngan bank lah
arwah ayah aku mmg tentang abis2 an...masa tu aku sekolah lg...
aku heran masa tu pesal la arwah benci sgt abg aku keje bank...

sampai abg aku balik kpg bwk makanan/buah/pakaian mmg arwah ayah takkan amik pakai/makan
sekarang ni baru aku paham kenapa...
alhamdulillah abang aku pon dah tak keje bank lagi...dia keje 3 bulan je
dia kata dia tak sedap ati arwah ayah aku tak 'berkati' keje dia tu...

cerita ini just for sharing w u all...utk pembuika thread,maafla...tak reti sgt bab2 riba ni...so x berani nk bg komen...

[ Last edited by  thelauncher at 11-10-2006 04:51 PM ]
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Post time 11-10-2006 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Rezeki ada di mana-mana. Jika rasa tidak selesa dan ragu-ragu kerja di bank maka elok berenti sajalah. Berniaga lebih mententeramkan jiwa walaupun teruk cabarannya.
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Post time 11-10-2006 11:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by eiyoei at 11-10-2006 04:34 PM
Jadi sape2 yang ambik course perbankan (DIB) kat uitm tu kiranya kena tukar course la ye



heiii...
sy ambk DIB dlu tau.

tp,ambk BM229 mase degree:lebai:
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Post time 11-10-2006 11:51 PM | Show all posts
Kalau semua orang islam tak bekerja dengan bank , macam mana lah agaknya kehidupan hari-hari yer?

Dengan suasana sekarang yang serba mencabar dan ramai yang menjadi pekerja bank secara tak lansung memandangkan  setiap bulan pergi bayar duit bank dahulu,

di manakah adanya orang kita jika segala kaitan dengan bank kita tolak atas dasar  haram dan perlu dijauhi..

Penglibatan dengan bank secara  kasarnya bukan hanya melibatkan pekerja  bank sahaja, tetapi meliputi keseluruhan kehidupan sehari-hari  masakin pelbagai peringkat..

Bermaksud , kalau seorang guru yang suatu ketika dahulu  pernah disanjung professionnya, dengan arus kemodenan tidak dapat tidak  terpaksa bersubahat sama dengan unsur-unsur yang kita katakan haram itu iaitu riba..

kalau seorang penceramah ugama ataupun ulamak  atau mufti sekalipun , adakah sah sembahyangnya di dalam rumah yang di biaya oleh bank ?

Kalau rumah di beli tunai sekalipun, gaji yang diperolehi dari kerajaan ataupun swasta  itu, mengisi mulut tangungan  yang ada pada setiap insan, adakah bebas dari gejala riba dan tiada melalui sistem perbankan?

Kalau Tok kadi pakai kereta yang hutang dengan bank untuk ke pejabat ugama setiap hari , adakah perjalan  mencari rezeki itu  satu perjalanan yang suci dan bebas riba  sekali gus dia terselamat dari unsur riba?

Persoalan nya  adakah hidup kita bersih dan di berkati sekiranya tidak bekerja dengan bank?

Ini lah pendapat saya yang tidak bekerja dengan bank , namun urusan setiap hari masih menuntut menggunakan bank .


Ini masanya memikirkan bhw   ramai diluar sana terpaksa mencari makan dan terlibat  dengan bank  .
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Post time 11-10-2006 11:58 PM | Show all posts
Masakini  berebut -rebut pihak bank mendapatkan title perbankkan islam  diatas  faktor keuntungan semata, Bukan memartabatkan Islam.

Apakah faedah perbankan islam kepada orang Islam?

Pastikah ia tidak ada unsur2 riba?

Benarkah ia memerlukan akad untuk setiap urusan.

Kalau ia benar mengapa tiada akad untuk setiap transaksi?

Mengapa ada pegawai bank Nonmuslim membuat deal perbankan Islam?

Setiap bank hari ini berlumba-lumba  menjadikan Islam itu satu produk yang boleh di dagangkan...

Persoalannya  dimanakah nilai dan ciri  keislaman di dalam perbankan Islam?

Kalau  setakat di warwar kan tiada riba tetapi di gantikan dengan kos pentadbiran & pengurusan  yang lebih membebankan dari perbankan konvesional, adakah  kita perlu  jadi orang bodoh yang  ditipu  oleh orang bukan islam  semata-mata kerana harapan sistem perbankan itu lebih diredai  tuhan dan tidak berdosa?
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Post time 12-10-2006 03:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aabu at 11-10-2006 11:58 PM
Masakini  berebut -rebut pihak bank mendapatkan title perbankkan islam  diatas  faktor keuntungan semata, Bukan memartabatkan Islam.

Apakah faedah perbankan islam kepada orang Islam?

Pastika ...


assalamualaikum brader..
AQAD tu tak smstinye kene sbut/lafaz..
bla awk bt transaksi mlalui internet..tekan butang tu je dh jd AQAD..stuju/terima.

bla awk bli air minuman gas dr mesin, tekan butang je pn dh AQAD.

lg 1,mmg nmpak mcm perbankan islam ni dh mnjadi satu 'trend'.

alhamdulillah :nerd:

depa bkn mncari keuntungan smata2 la awk.

bkn senang nk compete nk bank2 konvensional..
awk kene tahu,bank pn nk bt profit.

insyaAllah lame2 ok kot?
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Post time 12-10-2006 03:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sitimariam13 at 12-10-2006 03:08 PM


assalamualaikum brader..
AQAD tu tak smstinye kene sbut/lafaz..
bla awk bt transaksi mlalui internet..tekan butang tu je dh jd AQAD..stuju/terima.

bla awk bli air minuman gas dr mesin, te ...


Buatlah apa sahaja. Asalkan bahagia. bab akad tu kan sebahagian dari rukun muamalat.

Nak kawweeen pun kena akad.
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