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Subject: Kota Gelanggi (lost city)..
A small piece of History for our future generation..Why Kota Gelanggi
(lost city) touted as earliest civilization in Malay Peninsula
news were banned as ...
cmf_herrhughie Post at 1-12-2009 16:11
bila masa lak nak cover2 ni pulak... abis tu yg acknowledge Gangga Negara semua tu apahal pulak?... tu iktiraf ler tamadun awal bukan Islam kat tanah semenanjung ni.... |
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bkn kah ini boleh dimasukkan ke board legenda, mitos dan sejarah? |
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kat bod History sudah ada.....
sebab TS yang bukak thread sebab dier tak paham kenapa Melayu dulu ada nama unsur Hindu Buddha.... |
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eh... kalau x silap aku nakhon si tammarat ni nama tempat kat Selatan Thailand kan?
ada terperasan signboard nama tempat ni.... |
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eh... kalau x silap aku nakhon si tammarat ni nama tempat kat Selatan Thailand kan?
ada terperasan signboard nama tempat ni....
nik2121 Post at 2-12-2009 19:27
Yah, Nakhorn Si Thammarat satu Changwat (Wilayah) di Selatan Thai.... Equivalent nama dia dengan Ligor.... Negeri ni negeri Melayu, bukan negeri suku kaum Thai.... Nama purba negeri ni adalah Tamralingga. Agama lama, Hindu Sivaism n Mahayana Buddhism, kemudian sekitar abad ke-5 M, berubah ke Theravada Buddhism n menyebarkan jugak agama Theravada Buddhism ke selatan Myanmar, n ke Kemboja. Nakhorn Si Thammarat satu kerjaan independent dan bukan sebahagian Langkasuka, tapi selalu perang dengan Langkasuka pada zaman kuno... Kadang2 dia menang, maka dia memerintah semua negeri di Selatan Thai termasuklah Kedah, Kelantan, Perak Utara, Tengganu, n Pahang.... Kengkadang dia kalah, maka dia dudok sekejap bawah Langkasuka.... |
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Natives in Malayan Peninsular are:
Aslians:
1) Negritos : Kintaq, Kensiu, Mendriq, Jahai, and Lanoh
2) Nomad Mon-Khmeric in Malaysia : Senoi, Temiar, Jah Hut, Semoq-Bei, Mah-Meri, Semai, Jakun and Mah-Meri.
3) Malay influenced Mon-Khmeric of Malayan Peninsular (Malay-Thai border), with established Kingdoms, called as Langkasukans, either Buddhists or Muslims : Kedahan, Kelantanese, Terengganu, Orang Ulu in North Perak and Perlis (Siamese speaking, their language either were absorbed into modern Thai and in dialectical Malay). In Thailand they are South Thais. This Kingdom had been subdued by Sumatrans of Srivijaya Empire. Other union Kingdoms are Phra Nagar Dvaravati in Bangkok, Lopburi, Lavo in North Thai, Nakhon Sri Thammarath or Tambralingga in South Thai. Also those Pan-Pan (Patani), Raktmartika (Tanoh Meroh) in Songkhla, Chaiyyo, Grahi, Yarang (Jerei, Jerang) Yala (Jalo), and Bedelong (Phattalung) in South Thai under Siam Bay. They were all Indian influenced and civilized like their distant relatives in North East who are the Khmers of Cambodia and the Mons in Thailand and Myanmar.
4) Proto-Malay or Pre-Malay, Melayu Tua, they are primarily animists without any particular religion : Temuan, Semelai, Kanaq, Sletar, and Orang Laut in Johor, and Melacca. Orang Laut had been very influential in Malacca Kingdom, some of them had became Ministers in Johor Malay Palace, like Orang kaya Sri Bija Wangsa. Around 700th C, Orang Laut are known as Pirates of the Malacca Straits, they are loyal to Srivijaya Empire.
5) Sumatran ethnics classified as Malay because Malay is Srivijaya for native Malayan Peninsular understanding: Minangkabau, Rawa, Mandahiling, Achehnese of Acheh, Palembang, Batak, Bangka, Riau etc.
6) Javanese who are classified by constitution as Malay after they had accepted Peninsular version of Malay language, they still speak Javanese at home and practicing Javanese culture like Kuda Kepang, Ponorogo, Tumpeng, etc. All of them had been Muslim before entered Malayan Peninsular and they just arrived here recently. They had immigrated from Java Island and from Singapore and also Banjarese from Banjarmasin.
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aku tak suka satu warisan hindu jadi adat melayu.
dowry--wang hantaran
masa kahwin tok sami akan pusing pengantin - versi melayu bersanding
** soalan ni aku balas masa aku spm masa ujian bahasa melayu cakap2.
** Puak hindraf jangan terasa hati lak. |
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Kat Negara India Utara Dan Pakistan pun masih mengamalkan Dowry |
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Melayu ni bangsa mulia katanya. |
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x payah korang dok betekak pasal asal usul keturunan....baik korang fikirkan masa depan...macam mana nk jadi manusia yg berguna ...berilmu...serta mampu membina tamadun dengan pemikiran yang kretif...serta mejuarai kuasa ekonomi ... |
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Tuan Tanah ni rasanya keliru antara bangsa dan agama dan we all tahu pun yg Parameswara beragama bukan islam ketika melaka dibuka. Then Islam datang. So the successor selepas beliau mmg islam pun. Jadi nak cover up kota gelanggi tu tak der lah - almost a non - issue.
so , tiada istilah nak cover up. so nampak kebodohan kat situ. |
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Srivijaya adalah kerajaan melayu awal..walaupun demikian mereke mengamalkan agama hindu...so apa masalahnya benang ni nak persoalkan...provokasi ajer.... |
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takde update kota gelanggi? para pengkaji dah kena makan rimau kaa? |
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apa peliknya... before the arrival of islam, ancient malays memang hindu. what form of hindu, that we dont know.
Back kepada topic, Kota Gelanggi ni if im not mistaken dari pembacaan-pembacaan adalah kota maritim purba melayu yang kota nya separuh kat darat dan separuh kat air. Aku rasa macam kota perlabuhan yang besar la..
www.susorgalor.blogspot.com |
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awat takde update pasal Kota Gelanggi? dah kena sorok jin kaa? |
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Nak kata Srivijaya, kerajaan Melayu mcm x kena ja dengan perlembagaan negara Malaysia (1957-skarang ini). "Melayu" kena berbahasa Melayu, beragama Islam tak boleh beragama lain, mengamalkan adat budaya Melayu yang dah bercampur adut asli tak asli, arab x arab, isi borang RM2. Konteks meluas buleh la kot.
Tak silapnya krajaan awal kat Sumatera bukan kerajaan Srivijaya. Ikot rekod China, ada kerajaan awal len nama dia Kant'oli (Ghandari?). Kerajaan ni sekitar abad ke-5 M sekitar kawasan Jambi ngan Palembang. Masa abad ke-5 M pulak ada laporan kata worang2 berbahasa Austronesia baru masuk ke Sumatera. Masa sebelum tu x tahu lah.
Lepas tu baru kerajaan ni gabung dengan kerajaan2 kecik lain masuk dalam kerajaan empayar Srivijaya. Pak pratamo jowo musti suka dengan tajuk ni, I'sia Raya haha |
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