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Is God comprise of One, Two Or Three. One God BUT TWO

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Post time 4-1-2006 11:45 PM | Show all posts
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM BACK AGAIN ...TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."


Dear Truth 8  as you said :-

搕here many gives lips service under Jesus name. In last day Jesus says " I never knew u"

The truth is here as JESUS said:-
揃UT THOSE WHO WERE SENSIBLE, BROUGHT WITH THEIR LAMPS FLACKS OF OIL.
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 Author| Post time 5-1-2006 12:17 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wattttb at 4-1-2006 11:45 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM BACK AGAIN ...TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."


Dear Truth 8  as you said :-

搕here many gives lips s ...



Did not Jesus says I am lord of sabbath? are u keeping Sabbath when Jesus says "If u love keep my commandment?or just giving lips service under Jesus name?
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Post time 6-1-2006 01:22 AM | Show all posts
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM BACK AGAIN ...TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."


Dear Truth 8
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 Author| Post time 22-1-2006 06:25 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 6-1-2006 01:22 AM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM BACK AGAIN ...TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."


Dear Truth 8
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Post time 29-1-2006 02:39 AM | Show all posts
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I am again to share 揟HE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE
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 Author| Post time 13-2-2006 01:35 AM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 29-1-2006 02:39 AM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I am again to share 揟HE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE
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Post time 13-2-2006 11:58 PM | Show all posts
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.


Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-2-2006 01:35 AM


u cant even defend the Truth and asking me to read the post 226.

where doest the Bible says trinity?


Well!!my friend TRUTH 8....should I say PLEASE........dont deny GOD OWN WORDS.

YOU ARE GOOD IN BIBLE(ONLY FLESH)... BUT NOT IN THE SPIRIT.

LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS INSTRUCTED ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO FOLLOW HIM.

揋O! THEREFORE, AND MAKE DISCIPLE FROM ALL NATIONS, BAPTIZE THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND TEACH THEM TO FULFILL ALL THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS UNTIL THE END OF THIS WORLD.
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 Author| Post time 19-2-2006 12:49 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wattttb at 13-2-2006 11:58 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.




Well!!my friend TRUTH 8....should I say PLEASE........dont deny GOD OWN W ...



if u can understand what i wrote, Show me where does the Bible says Trinity rather u coming with this and that.
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Post time 25-2-2006 06:04 AM | Show all posts
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE 揟HE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.
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 Author| Post time 25-2-2006 11:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wattttb at 25-2-2006 06:04 AM
JESUS GIVEN INSTRUCTION TO HIS DISCIPLE 厖 (MATT 28:19-20)
厖 (MATT 28:19-20)
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yup Jesus given gospel but no where does it mentioned Trinity
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Post time 27-2-2006 02:15 PM | Show all posts
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 Author| Post time 27-2-2006 03:31 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 27-2-2006 02:15 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN 揟O SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.
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Post time 1-3-2006 09:46 AM | Show all posts
3 in 1.

Saya ialah Joe satriani.Yang ni pulak kawan saya namanya Steve vai.Yang sebelah tu namanya Jimi hendrix.Jadi saya dan kami semua ni  Joe satriani.kehkeh!
Ingat ni bancuh teh tarik ke.huhu.

-Markus-
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Post time 1-3-2006 10:15 PM | Show all posts
jihadddddddddddddddd pancung kepala........bom diri sendiri benggap
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Post time 2-3-2006 01:38 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 5-3-2006 11:59 PM | Show all posts
ko explain sampai mulut berbuih pun dia org tak akan paham......dia org sengaja tak nak paham agama org...kalu agama dia org...org buat tak paham....haaa itu dia menyalak mengalahkan anjing.....baik ko jadi mcm aku....kalu dia org tak reti nak respect kita pun selambe laaa ckp ikut suka...dia org suka tak suka lantak laaa
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 Author| Post time 6-3-2006 03:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sidewinder at 5-3-2006 11:59 PM
ko explain sampai mulut berbuih pun dia org tak akan paham......dia org sengaja tak nak paham agama org...kalu agama dia org...org buat tak paham....haaa itu dia menyalak mengalahkan anjing.....bai ...



u ckp dgn siapa ini? saya atau trinity?
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 Author| Post time 6-3-2006 03:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by back_hand at 1-3-2006 09:46 AM
3 in 1.

Saya ialah Joe satriani.Yang ni pulak kawan saya namanya Steve vai.Yang sebelah tu namanya Jimi hendrix.Jadi saya dan kami semua ni  Joe satriani.kehkeh!
Ingat ni bancuh teh tarik ke.hu ...



ikut Bible nothing goes wrong.

God comprises of Two not trinity.
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 Author| Post time 7-3-2006 01:59 AM | Show all posts
Modern Christianity's Forgotten Roots

Why do you do the things you do? Why do you believe the things you believe? What is the origin of your religious beliefs?
by Scott Ashley
Soren Kierkegaard, the 19th-century Danish writer and religious philosopher, wrote that the "Christianity of the New Testament simply does not exist." He questioned how popular Christianity had strayed so far from the way of life described and practiced in the Bible.

Is it possible that today's Christianity is fundamentally different from the teachings of the apostles? Some scholars and serious students of the Bible have recognized and acknowledged that the practices of the early Church varied greatly from those of today.

Norbert Brox, professor of early church history at the University of Regensburg, Germany, describes the viewpoint of the early Church: "Thus the first [Christian] communities were groups that formed within Judaism . . . Christians believed as before in the God of Israel: their Bible was the Bible of the Jews . . . They continued to observe (as Jesus did) the Jewish practice of temple worship and law (Acts 2.46; 10.14), and gave outsiders the impression of being a Jewish sect (Acts 24.5, 14; 28.22), not a new religion. They themselves probably also simply thought of themselves as Jews" (A Concise History of the Early Church, Continuum, New York, 1996, p. 4).

How did this transformation in the practices of Christianity come about?

Major shifts in Christianity
Some within the Christian congregations, representing themselves as faithful ministers of Christ, gradually began to introduce heretical teachings even in the time of the apostles. Paul described such men and their methods: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness . . ." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).

These teachers appeared to represent Christ at a time when the masses of humanity lacked any significant education. To the unschooled believers of that time, their teachings probably seemed reasonable; they sounded right. Yet these teachers were really instruments of deception in Satan's hands, used to lead others astray. Many may not have even realized their own errors and misguided motives.

Over time the damage was done. The apostle John, apparently the last survivor among the 12 original disciples, wrote of one false minister who had risen to power within the Church. This man was boldly rejecting John's emissaries and excommunicating faithful members (3 John 9-10). With John's writings, the books and letters that would form the New Testament were complete.

With his passing, however, reliable eyewitness accounts of events and changes in the Church largely ceased. We are left with confusing and contradictory accounts for the next several centuries.

Persecution leads to changes
Part of the lack of information about this time stems from persecution of the Church. Under Emperor Nero (A.D. 54-68), Christians in Rome were blamed for burning the city, and many were killed. Later the Roman emperor Domitian (81-96) demanded that all citizens of the empire worship him as a god. Christians and Jews alike who, in obedience to God's commandments, refused to comply with the edict were vigorously persecuted. For several centuries waves of persecution engulfed Christianity and Judaism.

In the first and second centuries Jews revolted against Roman rule. The second rebellion in particular brought persecution of Jews and Judaism. Emperor Hadrian (117-138), upon capturing Jerusalem, razed it and built a new city that Jews were forbidden even to enter. He also banned circumcision and observance of the Sabbath.

Professor Brox describes the effect on the Church: "The Jewish Christians in Palestine had been driven out in the First Jewish War (66-70) but then had returned to Jerusalem; however, after the Bar Kokhba revolt, the Second Jewish War against the Romans (132-135), they had to leave the land because, as Jews, they had been circumcised, and all Jews were now banned on pain of death. So for the moment that meant the end of this [Jerusalem] church" (Brox, p. 19).

From the scanty historical records it appears that, to avoid punishment, a significant number of Christians began to avoid identification with Judaism during this time of intense persecution of Jews. The more visible portion of Christianity began a significant transition from the teachings of the apostles to an anti-Jewish religious philosophy. Former practices held in common with Judaism rapidly began to wane as new customs crept into the Church. Few summoned up the courage to face continual persecution for remaining faithful to the customs handed down by the apostles of Christ

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 Author| Post time 7-3-2006 02:00 AM | Show all posts
The Passover-Easter debate

The church historian Eusebius, reporting on the Council of Nicaea (325), describes a debate going back to the second century between Polycarp, a disciple of the apostle John who urged Christians to continue to keep the Passover as a memorial of Christ's death, and Anicetus, bishop of Rome (155-166), who advocated a celebration of Christ's resurrection on Easter Sunday. Later, bishop Victor I of Rome (189-199) issued an ultimatum that all were "to follow the Sunday practice of the Roman church and most other churches" (Brox, p. 124, emphasis added throughout).

At Nicaea the new custom of Easter won out over Passover. The Roman emperor Constantine decreed that those who refused to follow the Roman church's lead were heretics and to be excommunicated.

His resulting letter showed the depth of his feelings regarding practices he considered "Jewish."

"It appeared an unworthy thing," he wrote, "that in the celebration of this most holy feast [Easter] we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hands with enormous sin, and are, therefore, deservedly afflicted with blindness of soul . . . Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd: for we have received from our Savior a different way . . .

"Strive and pray continually that the purity of your soul may not seem in anything to be sullied by fellowship with the custom of these most wicked men . . . All should unite in desiring that which sound reason appears to demand, avoiding all participation in the perjured conduct of the Jews" (Eusebius, Life of Constantine 3, 18-19, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Hendrickson, Grand Rapids, 1979, second series, Vol. 1, pp. 524-525).

Constantine endorses 'Christianity'
Constantine's reign as emperor (306-337) dramatically changed the direction Christianity would take. Under his rule, Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, and he was baptized (albeit on his deathbed).

But what was the nature of the Christianity he endorsed?

By now, much had already changed. Charles Guignebert, professor of the history of Christianity at the University of Paris, observes: "Contemplate the Christian Church at the beginning of the fourth century, therefore, and some difficulty will be experienced in recognizing in her the community of Apostolic times, or rather, we shall not be able to recognize it at all . . ." (The Early History of Christianity, Twayne, New York, 1927).

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