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Author: Truth.8

The Bible mentioned abt Human Spirit(roh) but Muslims unable to explain

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Post time 11-10-2006 03:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 02:51 PM
Hey T8,

can you elaborate this term,
1) kindness
2) hatred
3) loving
4) caring
5) forgive


its come from where?

by T8
As usual u divert the topic and comes with silly question. When i do not reply , u called me i am manipulator

so, u still believed that akal in heart??


You are not answering my question. I am not manipulating you. Just want the fact.
Can you answer the question?
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 Author| Post time 11-10-2006 03:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 03:35 PM




You are not answering my question. I am not manipulating you. Just want the fact.
Can you answer the question?


is not relevant to the topic. muslims always divert topic if they unable to answered.

so musims believed mind is heart??
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:45 PM | Show all posts
by T8
is not relevant to the topic. muslims always divert topic if they unable to answered.

so musims believed mind is heart??

It relevant what.

You said spirit in mind and mind controled by spirit.
so, i want to know, from my question, which part are refered the most?

I am not saying spirit in heart. ok?

just answer the question.

[ Last edited by  i212 at 11-10-2006 03:48 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 11-10-2006 03:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 03:45 PM



I am not saying spirit in heart. ok?

  ...


how come? u muslim friend says akal dlm hati??
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 03:45 PM



I am not saying spirit in heart. ok?

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ermm...
I say |I am not saying Spirit in Heart
Dalam BM: Saya tak kata Roh Dalam Dati.

Macam mana awak boleh keluarkan statement
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how come? u muslim friend says akal dlm hati??



Please answer the question.
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 Author| Post time 11-10-2006 04:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 03:59 PM


ermm...
I say |I am not saying Spirit in Heart
Dalam BM: Saya tak kata Roh Dalam Dati.

Macam mana awak boleh keluarkan statement



Please answer the question.


ok, fine but did not ur muslim say that? so u do not agreed with him/her?
u can go one by one that statments is there.
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Post time 11-10-2006 04:11 PM | Show all posts
I not agree with you saying that Spirit in Mind.

And also I am not saying that Spirit in Heart.


About Heart is our Mind.... give me verse kay?


and in your post #226.... i see something missing...
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 Author| Post time 11-10-2006 04:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 04:11 PM
I not agree with you saying that Spirit in Mind.

And also I am not saying that Spirit in Heart.


About Heart is our Mind.... give me verse kay?


and in your post #226.... i see something ...



so what u believed ? where is our human spirit?? in backside?
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Post time 11-10-2006 04:16 PM | Show all posts
by T8
so what u believed ? where is our human spirit?? in backside?


I do not know. Its not my knowledge.

About you say Spirit in Mind and Spirit controlling Mind also I not agree..
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 Author| Post time 12-10-2006 01:52 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 04:16 PM


I do not know. Its not my knowledge.

About you say Spirit in Mind and Spirit controlling Mind also I not agree..


if you do not understand simple thing about spirit than islam is not true calling of God

Only God prophets and peoples able to explained about spirit

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 12-10-2006 02:15 AM ]
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Post time 12-10-2006 05:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 12-10-2006 01:52 AM


if you do not understand simple thing about spirit than islam is not true calling of God

Only God prophets and peoples able to explained about spirit


To truth.8 and others. You are doing a big mistake here. How come you judge what is Islam from us? We are only 0.00000001% of what Islam is all about. We are only servants who always surround by sins. Pinjam dari kata2 member forum "sebutir kaca dari sejuta permata", so carilah permata tersebut
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Post time 12-10-2006 09:11 PM | Show all posts
Ada sesetengah perkara Quran tidak menyatakan dengan terperinci...
tetapi ia memberi panduan untuk kita berfikir...
Kita dikurniakan akal fikiran untuk BERFIKIR...
klu roh berada di otak, maknanya roh tidak berada pada anggota badan yang lain?
LOGIKKAH?
Sedangkan kita mempunyai deria sakit di seluruh anggota badan...
Orang mati tidak merasa sakit, sebab tiada roh...
ROH adalah NYAWA...
Muhammad menyatakan hanya sedikit sahaja pengetahuan tentang Roh..
Itulah yang dimaksudkannya...
Kita tidak mengetahui bagaimana BENTUK ROH, DIPERBUAT DARIPADA APA, BAGAIMANA IA DIMASUKKAN DALAM BADAN MANUSIA, BAGAIMANA ALLAH MENJADIKAN ROH,DLL...
ADAKAH BIBLE MENERANGKAN SEMUA TU?
Cukuplah sekadar kita tahu bahawa ROH itu NYAWA..
Itulah yang dimaksudkan oleh Muhammad.
Pernah seorang sahabat bertanya Muhammad s.a.w tentang saat kematian seseorang...
Baginda menjawab sakit menghadapi kematian melebihi 1000 tikaman pedang...
Dari situ kita boleh tahu yang roh itu berada di setiap urat sarat dan sel badan manusia...
Fikirkanlah...
Manusia diberi akal fikiran, tetapi tahap pemikiran kita ada batasannya...
Itulah beza manusia dengan haiwan...
Dengan erti kata lain, Manusia dengan Lembu..
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Post time 12-10-2006 09:58 PM | Show all posts
the connection about spirit and soul are beyond our brain thinking capabilities...
since Allah has created us (human being) that way....as a slave of God,
not a creation that designed which can be compared like His....
but a creation as to rule the earth
(khalifah di muka bumi...itu la bukti sebaik2 kejadian manusia)

so its the simple answer to that jewish stupid question,
which has been asked to Prophet Muhammad,
well the answer as stated in Al-Isra, 85
"the Spirit is the matter of The Lord and you are not told about it but only a little of it".

the answer was given as to avoid from any confusing thinkin'...
which might lead you into a nutcase person....just like u Truth-8

so u see....mr_nutcase_of_truth:
we have to accept our limit from thinkin about soul and spirit matters.
(but i guess u are too dim to accept our human being limitation as His slave)
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Post time 12-10-2006 10:07 PM | Show all posts
or at least in QURAN,
Al-Mighty Allah has answered in Surah Al-Mu'minum 23:12-15:

    "Dan sesungguhnya kami telah menciptakan manusia dari pati (yang berasal dari tanah liat); "Kemudian Kami jadikan "pati" itu (setitis) air benih pada tempat penetapan yang kukuh; "Kemudian Kami ciptakan air benih itu menjadi sebuku darah beku, lalu Kami ciptakan darah beku itu menjadi seketul daging; kemudian Kami ciptakan daging itu menjadi beberapa tulang; kemudian Kami balut tulang-tulang itu dengan daging. Setelah sempurna kejadian itu*, Kami bentuk dia menjadi makhluk yang lain sifat kejadiannya. maka nyatalah kelebihan dan ketinggian Allah sebaik-baik Pencipta! Kemudian sesungguhnya kamu sesudah itu akan mati."

* from here...this is where the soul were blown in the physical jasad. so......
at least our God still given a knowledge as a chance to understand the soul, spirit and human creation...
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 Author| Post time 12-10-2006 11:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ekmal_sorrow at 12-10-2006 09:58 PM
the connection about spirit and soul are beyond our brain thinking capabilities...
since Allah has created us (human being) that way....as a slave of God,
not a creation that designed which can be compared like His....
but a creation as to rule the earth
(khalifah di muka bumi...itu la bukti sebaik2 kejadian manusia)
...



...that because True God hide such  matter on spirit to Muhammad. All our Prophets comes from roots of Jews. Jews little sceptical why this so called prophet of seal  have so much contracting  to the real teaching of  Jews.

Jews are well verse in  heaven, hell, souls and spirit. Just to test Muhammad  related to this matter, they went to test him but he failed and came with crap answered that this God matters.

Clearly, muhammad fit into our Bible prophecy that he is false prophet
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 Author| Post time 12-10-2006 11:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ekmal_sorrow at 12-10-2006 10:07 PM
or at least in QURAN,
Al-Mighty Allah has answered in Surah Al-Mu'minum 23:12-15:

    "Dan sesungguhnya kami telah menciptakan manusia dari pati (yang berasal dari tanah liat); "Kemud ...




it did not explained about spirit in mind
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 Author| Post time 14-10-2006 11:37 AM | Show all posts
muslims still blurr in  spirit things because God have hide this knowleged but to us God have shown. why? True God will exposed the truth to true believer and not  to faker.
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Post time 14-10-2006 11:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-10-2006 11:37 AM
muslims still blurr in  spirit things because God have hide this knowleged but to us God have shown. why? True God will exposed the truth to true believer and not  to faker.



How come I'm still a muslim ?

That show your god is powerless


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 Author| Post time 14-10-2006 12:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 14-10-2006 11:59 AM



How come I'm still a muslim ?

That show your god is powerless


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when time comes u will know the real power from true God.

even u muslims chant      allah is great  but yet muslims been tortured, killed and     great tsunamai but allah is not there.
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Post time 14-10-2006 12:10 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-10-2006 12:08 PM



when time comes u will know the real power from true God.

even u muslims chant      allah is great  but yet muslims been tortured, killed and     great tsunamai but allah is not there.



bila tu ?


tak ada apa apa punggg


god kau tak kuat kot



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