Is God comprise of One, Two Or Three. One God BUT TWO

wattttb

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 25-5-2006 05:50 PM


Jesus also says "if you love me keep my commandement. commandement mean 10 commandement.

as for trinity, our earlier church do not have such trinity.

if u love the truth, u better le ...

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN " TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."

TRUTH 8,

Please harden not your heart, you speak own your own...our own knowledge. The knowledge which you gained from Corrupted human mind not from GOD. Again I repeat THE WORD OF GOD.

If you are not born again from above..Please dont talk about BIBLE, you are leading others away from GOD.

FOR I KNOW JESUS IS ALWAYS AT MY SIDE AND FOREVER HE WILL BE WITH ME.
AGAIN I REPEAT HIS WORD:

LISTEN TO THE WORD OF GOD (JOHN 3:5-8)

"JESUS REPLIED "TRULY, I SAY TO YOU: UNLESS ONE IS BORN AGAIN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT, HE CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. WHAT IS BORN OF FLESH IS FLESH, AND WHAT IS BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT. BECAUSE OF THIS, DONT BE SURPRISED WHEN I SAY: YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN FROM ABOVE.

THE WIND BLOWS WHERE IT PLEASES AND YOU HEAR IT SOUND, BUT YOU DONT KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM OR WHERE IT IS GOING. IT IS LIKE THAT WITH EVERYONE WHO IS BORN OF SPIRIT."


You are welcome to ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH and in this OLD CHURCH you will find THE TRUTH.


MAY GOD FORGIVE ALL OUR SINS




AMEN.

FROM WATT.

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Truth.8

Originally posted by wattttb at 26-5-2006 02:23 PM


You are welcome to ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH and in this OLD CHURCH you will find THE TRUTH.
...

u want me come to rc when u peoples broke God words and blend with pagan faith??

the 10 commandment already corrupted by lying pen of RC, and yet u ask me to come to RC?

what truth in this old church has??? corrupted hands to suit they own??

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wattttb

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 27-5-2006 01:11 PM



u want me come to rc when u peoples broke God words and blend with pagan faith??

the 10 commandment already corrupted by lying pen of RC, and yet u ask me to come to RC?

what truth in t ...

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN " TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."


THIS IS WHAT JESUS ANSWERED ......." DO NOT JUDGE AND YOU WILL NOT BE JUDGED, IN THE SAME WAY YOU JUDGE OTHERS, YOU WILL BE JUDGE, AND MEASURE YOU USE FOR OTHERS WILL BE USED FOR YOU"

AGAIN.... LISTEN TO JESUS ANSWERED "BUT THE SCRIPTURE ALSO SAYS : YOU SHALL NOT CHALLENGE THE LORD YOUR GOD."

SO.... SEARCH FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS..... PRAY AND REPENT


MAY GOD OPEN YOUR HEART, MIND AND SOUL TO SEE THE TRUTH OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

AMEN.

FROM WATT.

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Truth.8

Originally posted by wattttb at 29-5-2006 02:16 AM
THIS IS WHAT JESUS ANSWERED ......." DO NOT JUDGE AND YOU WILL NOT BE JUDGED, IN THE SAME WAY YOU JUDGE OTHERS, YOU WILL BE JUDGE, AND MEASURE YOU USE FOR OTHERS WILL BE USED FOR YOU"
...

am i judging u are u running away frm the Truth of the Bible?

This is not an issue we judging u rather, are u holding as  perbible sayings.

Is Jesus and many prophets judge others when this peoples commiting sins? Never, rather prophets and Jesus told them it not right to do this , so it not judging them.

I am not judging RC, rather pointing out my fact that are  u in right path or man made laws and rules?

wattttb

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 29-5-2006 12:54 PM



am i judging u are u running away frm the Truth of the Bible?

This is not an issue we judging u rather, are u holding as  perbible sayings.

Is Jesus and many prophets judge others when  ...

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN " TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."



Frm Truth 8 :
am i judging u are u running away frm the Truth of the Bible?

This is not an issue we judging u rather, are u holding as  perbible sayings.



WATT Answer :

My friend, see!!! You dont  know what you are doing and what you are saying. In your message 265#, you said:

" want me come to rc when u peoples broke God words and blend with pagan faith??

the 10 commandment already corrupted by lying pen of RC, and yet u ask me to come to RC?

what truth in this old church has??? corrupted hands to suit they own???"



What you say now?? not judging??

Please,FOLLOW THE WORD OF GOD AND YOU MUST BE BORN FROM ABOVE.





Frm Truth 8 :

Is Jesus and many prophets judge others when this peoples commiting sins? Never, rather prophets and Jesus told them it not right to do this, so it not judging them.

I am not judging RC, rather pointing out my fact that are  u in right path or man made laws and rules?


WATT Answer:

My friends,
With your own ways of thinking or own knowledge or FLESH,
You are not qualified to pointing out the fact or the right path to anybody FOR YOU NOT BORN AGAIN FROM ABOVE.
If you do, you just leading other AWAY FROM GOD.

THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAYS TO ALL THE PROTESTANT TODAY (JOHN6: 63-64):

"IT IS SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE; THE FLESH CANNOT HELP.
THE WORDS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE. BUT AMONG YOU THERE ARE SOME WHO DO NOT BELIEVE."

SEE!!!THE TRUTH IS HERE.

IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW JESUS AND TO PROCLAIM HIS WORDS. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN FROM ABOVE.
THIS THE ONLY WAY AND THE ONLY KEY.  


THE WORD OF GOD (JOHN 3:5-8)

"JESUS REPLIED "TRULY, I SAY TO YOU: UNLESS ONE IS BORN AGAIN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT, HE CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. WHAT IS BORN OF FLESH IS FLESH, AND WHAT IS BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT. BECAUSE OF THIS, DONT BE SURPRISED WHEN I SAY: YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN FROM ABOVE.

THE WIND BLOWS WHERE IT PLEASES AND YOU HEAR IT SOUND, BUT YOU DONT KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM OR WHERE IT IS GOING. IT IS LIKE THAT WITH EVERYONE WHO IS BORN OF SPIRIT."

PLEASE, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEART, REPENT AND DO WHAT JESUS COMMANDED.

MAY GOD FORGIVE ALL OUR FOOLISHNESS.

AMEN.

FROM WATT.

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Truth.8

Originally posted by wattttb at 30-5-2006 02:20 PM



IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN " TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."



Frm Truth 8 :
am i judging u are u running away frm the ...

as usual with ur bla bla bla things than providing with proof of Bible sayings.
I qouting frm Bible verses to support my claimed. can u support that as well? how u going defend ur faith if other faith to question trinity? run out like chicken or more rc converting to muslim? shame on u peoples. :agr:


The Holy Spirit: Not a Personal Being
". . .'Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,' says the LORD of hosts" (Zechariah 4:6).

In the preceding chapter we saw that the teaching of the Trinity originated well after the New Testament was written rather than with the Bible writers themselves. How, then, do we define the Holy Spirit if it is not a person?

Rather than describing the Holy Spirit as a distinct person or entity, the Bible most often refers to it as and connects it with God's divine power (Zechariah 4:6; Micah 3:8). Jewish scholars, examining the references to it in the Old Testament Scriptures, have never defined the Holy Spirit as anything but the power of God.
In the New Testament, Paul referred to it as the spirit of power, love and a sound mind (2 Timothy 1:7). Informing Mary that Jesus would be supernaturally conceived in her womb, an angel told her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you . . . ," and he defined this as "the power of the Highest," which "will overshadow you" (Luke 1:35).Jesus began His ministry "in the power of the Spirit" (Luke 4:14). He told His followers, "You shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you" (Acts 1:8).

Peter relates that "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power" (Acts 10:38). This was the same power that enabled Christ to perform many mighty miracles during His ministry. The Holy Spirit is the very nature, presence and expression of God's power actively working in His servants (John 14:23; 2 Peter 1:4; Galatians 2:20).

Jesus Christ worked through the apostle Paul "in mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God" (Romans 15:19). Again and again the Scriptures depict the Holy Spirit as the power of God.
In its article about the Holy Spirit, The Anchor Bible Dictionary describes it as the "manifestation of divine presence and power perceptible especially in prophetic inspiration" (Vol. 3, 1992, p. 260).

Divine inspiration by the Holy Spirit

Repeatedly the Scriptures reveal that God imparted divine inspira- tion to His prophets and servants through the Holy Spirit. Peter noted that "prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:21).

Paul wrote that God's plan for humanity had been "revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets" (Ephesians 3:5) and that his own teachings were inspired by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:13). Paul further explains that it is through His Spirit that God has revealed to true Christians the things He has prepared for those who love Him (verses 9-16). Working through the Spirit, God the Father is the revealer of truth to those who serve Him.

Jesus told His followers that the Holy Spirit, which the Father would send, "will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you" (John 14:26). It is through God's Spirit within us that we gain spiritual insight and understanding.

Christ had this spiritual comprehension in abundance. As the Messiah, He was prophesied to have "the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD" (Isaiah 11:2).

As the Son of Man on earth, Christ portrayed in His personal conduct the divine attributes of Almighty God through completely living by His Father's biblical standards through the power of the Holy Spirit (compare 1 Timothy 3:16).

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Truth.8

Other attributes of the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is spoken of in many ways that demonstrate that it is not a divine person. For example, it is referred to as a gift (Acts 10:45; 1 Timothy 4:14). We are told that the Holy Spirit can be quenched (1 Thessalonians 5:19), that it can be poured out (Acts 2:17, 33), and that we are baptized with it (Matthew 3:11).

People can drink of it (John 7:37-39), partake of it (Hebrews 6:4), and be filled with it (Acts 2:4; Ephesians 5:18). The Holy Spirit also renews us (Titus 3:5) and must be stirred up within us (2 Timothy 1:6). These impersonal characteristics are certainly not attributes of a person.

It is also called "the Holy Spirit of promise," "the guarantee of our inheritance" and "the spirit of wisdom and revelation . . ." (Ephesians 1:13-14, 17).

This Spirit is not only the Spirit of God the Father, for the Bible also calls it the "Spirit of Christ" (Romans 8:9; Philippians 1:19). By either name, it is the same Spirit, as there is only one Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). The Father imparts the same Spirit to true Christians through Christ (John 14:26; 15:26; Titus 3:5-6), leading and enabling them to be His children and "partakers of the divine nature" (Romans 8:14; 2 Peter 1:4).

In contrast to God the Father and Jesus Christ, who are consistently compared to human beings in Their form and shape, the Holy Spirit is consistently represented, by various symbols and manifestations, in a completely different manner梥uch as wind (Acts 2:2), fire (verse 3), water (John 4:14; 7:37-39), oil (Psalm 45:7; compare Acts 10:38; Matthew 25:1-10), a dove (Matthew 3:16) and an "earnest," or down payment, on eternal life (2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; Ephesians 1:13-14, KJV). These depictions are difficult to understand, to say the least, if the Holy Spirit is a person.

In Matthew 1:20 we find further evidence that the Holy Spirit is not a distinct entity, but God's divine power. Here we read that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. However, Jesus continually prayed to and addressed God the Father as His Father and not the Holy Spirit (Matthew 10:32-33; 11:25-27; 12:50). He never represented the Holy Spirit as His Father. Clearly, the Holy Spirit was the agency or power through which the Father begot Jesus as His Son.

Paul's example and teaching

If God were a Trinity, surely Paul, who recorded much of the theological underpinnings of the early Church, would have comprehended and taught this concept. Yet we find no such teaching in His writings.

Moreover, Paul's standard greeting in his letter to the churches, as well as individuals to whom he wrote, is "Grace to you and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." In each of his greetings he never mentions the Holy Spirit. (The same can also be said of Peter in the salutations of both his epistles.)

The same greeting, with only minor variations, appears in every epistle that bears Paul's name (see Romans 1:7; 1 Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2; etc.) The Holy Spirit is always left out of these greetings梐n unbelievable and inexplicable oversight if it were indeed a person or entity coequal with God the Father and Christ.

This is even more surprising when we consider that the congregations to which Paul wrote had many gentile members from polytheistic backgrounds who had formerly worshiped numerous gods. Paul's epistles record no attempt on his part to explain the Trinity or Holy Spirit as a divine person equal with God the Father and Jesus Christ.

In all of Paul's writings, only in 2 Corinthians 13:14 is the Holy Spirit mentioned along with the Father and Christ, and there only in connection with the "fellowship of the Holy Spirit" (NIV) in which believers share梟ot in any sort of theological statement on the nature of God. God's Spirit, says Paul, is the unifying agent that brings us together in godly, righteous fellowship, not only with one another but with the Father and Son.

Yet here, too, God's Spirit is not spoken of as a person. Notice that our fellowship is of the Holy Spirit, not with the Holy Spirit. As 1 John 1:3 tells us, "truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ." The Holy Spirit is not mentioned.

Paul states that "there is one God, the Father, . . . and one Lord Jesus Christ . . ." (1 Corinthians 8:6). He makes no mention of the Holy Spirit s a divine person.

Other biblical perspectives

Jesus likewise never spoke of the Holy Spirit as a divine third person. Instead, in numerous passages He spoke only of the relationship between God the Father and Himself (Matthew 26:39; Mark 13:32; 15:34; John 5:18, 22; etc.). The Holy Spirit as a person is conspicuously absent from Christ's teaching in general. Of particular interest in this regard are His many statements about Himself and the Father, especially when He never makes similar statements about Himself and the Holy Spirit.

We should also consider that, in visions of God's throne recorded in the Bible, although the Father and Christ are seen, the Holy Spirit is never seen (Acts 7:55-56; Daniel 7:9-14; Revelation 4-5; 7:10). Jesus is repeatedly mentioned as being at the right hand of God, but no one is mentioned as being at the Father's left hand. Nowhere are three divine persons pictured together in the Scriptures.
Even in the final book of the Bible (and the last to be written), the Holy Spirit as a divine person is absent from its pages. The book describes "a new heaven and new earth" (Revelation 21:1) wherein "the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them" (verse 3). Christ, the Lamb of God, is also present (verse 22). The Holy Spirit, however, is again absent梐nother inexplicable oversight if this Spirit is the third person of a triune God.Clearly, the Holy Spirit, from the evidence found in the Bible, is not a person in a supposed Trinity. Regrettably, the unbiblical doctrine of the Trinity obscures the scriptural teaching that God is a family梐 family which, as we will see, is our ultimate destiny!

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casejulia

Matthew 28: 16-19

16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."


why Jesus said " baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"??
why not He said "baptize them in the name of the Father and the Son"??

because God compromise of THREE

Truth.8

Originally posted by casejulia at 4-6-2006 02:51 AM
Matthew 28: 16-19

16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to th ...

What About Matthew 28:19?

Matthew 28:19 is a sometimes misunderstood biblical passage with regard to the Trinity doctrine. "Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in ['into,' Greek eis] the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

Remember the important principle that the Bible interprets the Bible. What this particular passage shows us is the proper baptismal formula, not a description of the nature of God.

Notice Acts 2:38: "Then Peter said to them, 'Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." After real repentance and being baptized, the example from Scripture is that a minister lays his hands on the repentant person and he or she receives the Holy Spirit directly from God (Acts 8:14-17).

Important as it is, baptism alone is not sufficient. It must be followed by the biblically mandated laying on of hands for the receiving of the Holy Spirit梩he seed of eternal life (Acts 19:1-6). We cannot partake of God's nature (2 Peter 1:4) without first being begotten of the Father by the Holy Spirit, which imparts that divine nature.

Christ's instruction in Matthew 28:19 presumes that, before being baptized, believers will learn of God the Father, His Son and the Holy Spirit. At baptism, they enter into a personal family relationship with God the Father and the Son through the Holy Spirit, thereby receiving the name of God (compare Ephesians 3:14-15). This is the message of Matthew 28:19.

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sparrow

Firstly, lets us all remind ourselves that there is only ONE God.
'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. - Mark 12:29

hm..  if i could, i do not wish to debate on the "composition" of our God. To do so, will be like to define an infinite God, in a limited human way. but let me remind you, that the Bible was not written to let us know all about God. It was NOT written to give us a biography of God.. it is written to present us the Personality of God, ie, to tell what God is like. It is not to let us know everything about Him. It is written so that we KNOW HIM. (Indeed, knowing Him and knowing about Him are two different things). For our God is eternal, infinite, and incomprehensible to our limited human minds, and even all that was described in the Bible about God, are actually beyond our human understanding.

But the Bible did tell us something about the Holy Spirit. So let us just take a look at what the Bible says about the Holy Spirit and how is the Holy Spirit presented to us. I think we all agree that the Holy Spirit exists, and that the Holy Spirit comes from God and we all agree that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit that we receive and lives in our hearts when we accept and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior. This is told in Ephesians 1:13:
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession梩o the praise of his glory.

But what ELSE did the Bible say about the Holy Spirit?  Let's take a look at how the Holy Spirit is described, or presented to us? (For the benefit of this thread, we'll use the NIV bible.)

First, let's see what JESUS said about the Holy Spirit..  Let's turn to a couple verses in the Gospel of John:

John 14:15-17
15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever

sparrow

Point to ponder:
why, of all those times Jesus associate Himself with the Father, He did not mention the Holy Spirit?

Well.. in the few verses that Jesus mentioned the Holy Spirit, what did He say?

John 14:15-17
15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever

You say u din believe in "trinity" rite? Thats the way it looks like. We're christians. Don't meragui kata God and Jesus. We must believe in the mighty God. If we believe in god, god will lead us into his Holy Kingdom. Our spirit will always be with god in God's Kingdom. Trust God, thats all we have to do. So, believe in God start from today and till forever. May God bless u all.

Truth.8

Originally posted by Ragame at 4-6-2006 05:08 PM
You say u din believe in "trinity" rite? Thats the way it looks like. We're christians. Don't meragui kata God and Jesus. We must believe in the mighty God. If we believe in god, god will ...

many christians mis understood trinity and the words trinity nowhere u can find. secondly, earlier believere did not endorsed trinity.

if u read my article frm begining u understand whether trinity is hoax or mis understood.

Truth.8

Originally posted by sparrow at 4-6-2006 03:49 PM
Firstly, lets us all remind ourselves that there is only ONE God.
'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. - Mark 12:29

hm..  if i could, i do not wish to debate on the "compos ...

i do not wish to repeat all the time, all ur question already reply in my thread. read frm begining.

casejulia

i believe  there is only ONE GOD
and for me He is the Father, He is the Son, He is the Holy spirit!

James 2:19
19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe梐nd tremble!

simple as that!

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Truth.8

Originally posted by casejulia at 5-6-2006 01:58 AM
i believe  there is only ONE GOD
and for me He is the Father, He is the Son, He is the Holy spirit!

James 2:19
19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe梐nd t ...

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In the King James Version Bible, also called the
Authorized Version, there is this verse : " For there are
three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and
the Holy Spirit, and these three are one "(I John 5:7).

This verse is a late inclusion by the translators of the
King James Version. It seems this verse was interpolated by
Trinitarian-influenced scribes in the 17th century \ It was
not part of the original Greek text. All the modem
translations omit it - it is nothing but a fraud !

Jesus reveals there are Two of Them !

Throughout the book of John, Jesus stated - at least 40
TIMES - He WAS SENT by God the Father. So there were
TWO PARTIES involved : the One who sent and the One
who was sent.

The One who sent was the FATHER. And the ONE
AND ONLY Father sent His ONE AND ONLY SON -
JESUS CHRIST (John 1:14). The One who sent and the
One who was sent cannot be the same person - you cannot
sent yourself, someone else has to sent you. Many - many -
of the statements made by Jesus in the book of John
contained in one form or other the message : HE SENT ME
(John 7:29, 8:29). HE SENT ME cannot mean one person
and if there seems to be a third person in the Godhead,
Jesus seems to leave Him out in many of His statements.

What is the conclusion then ?

God consists of the Father and the Son ; They are
TWO PERSONS ! Simple as that ! The Christian God is

con't/....

Truth.8

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not Trinitarian nor Unitarian but Binitarian (twoness) - if
one may use a modem secular term.

In His great prayer before His arrest and trial, Jesus
looked up to Heaven and said, "Father the hour has come.
Glorify Your Son that Your Son also may glorify You. ....

... ... .this is eternal life, that they may know You, the

Only True God and Jesus Christ whom You have sent....

. . and now, 0 Father, glorify Me together with Yourself
with the glory which I had with You before the world was"
(John 17:1-5,NKJV).

These are profound words.

Jesus looks up to Heaven because He knows God is
bodily present there. He calls Him Father and claims to be
His Son. This means Jesus is not the Father and the Father
is not Jesus. They are separate persons, the Father is in
Heaven while the Son is on earth as a man. So simple to
understand and believe, yet there are people who believe in
the doctrine of oneness which says God is just one person
who acts as the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit.Jesus says to have eternal life, we must know the
Father and the Son. He omits the Holy Spirit. If the Holy
Spirit is the third person of Godhead equal to the Father and
the Son, Jesus must have commited the sin of blasphemy
by refusing to honour Him in the plan of salvation !

Jesus asks the Father to restore Him to the position He
had with the Father before the creation. This tells us Jesus
existed with the Father before any created thing existed -
He was not part of the creation but a member of the Eternal
God Family ! Jesus was only with ONE OTHER PERSON

Con't/....

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN " TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."

AS A REAL CHRISTIAN WE MUST KNOW WHAT SPIRIT IS AND WHAT FLESH IS.

HOW CAN WE CLAIM THAT CHRIST IS OUR LORD WHEN WE ARE IN FLESH. HOW CAN WE SAY TO OUR FRIENDS OUR NEIGHBOR 揑 LOVE YOU

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN " TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE."


From Truth 8 :

These are profound words.

Jesus looks up to Heaven because He knows God is
bodily present there. He calls Him Father and claims to be
His Son. This means Jesus is not the Father and the Father
is not Jesus. They are separate persons, the Father is in
Heaven while the Son is on earth as a man. So simple to
understand and believe, yet there are people who believe in
the doctrine of oneness which says God is just one person
who acts as the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit.Jesus says to have eternal life, we must know the
Father and the Son. He omits the Holy Spirit. If the Holy
Spirit is the third person of Godhead equal to the Father and
the Son, Jesus must have commited the sin of blasphemy
by refusing to honour Him in the plan of salvation !

Jesus asks the Father to restore Him to the position He
had with the Father before the creation. This tells us Jesus
existed with the Father before any created thing existed -
He was not part of the creation but a member of the Eternal
God Family ! Jesus was only with ONE OTHER PERSON



From WATT

My dear friend, please don抰 use your own ways of thinking to interpret the WORD OF GOD. Let THE HOLY SPIRIT tell you what to do.

Just want to share with you; 10 years ago I was like you. Very stubborn! But GOD IS MERCIFUL AND COMPASSION, HE show  me the right way and HE healed my physical being and my soul.

AND FOREVER I WILL PRAISE HIM FOR HE IS GOOD TO ME! NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT CAN EVER CHANGE HIS LOVE TO ME.

AS A FRIEND, I PRAY THAT YOU WILL SEE THE TRUTH OF THE TRINITY HERE.
PLEASE KEEP IN YOUR HEART THE WORD OF GOD
(MATTHEW 3: 13-17):-


At the time JESUS arrived from Galilee and came to John at Jordan to be baptized by him. But John tried to prevent HIM, and said 揌ow can is it YOU come to me: I should be baptized by YOU!

casejulia

for me the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT are equal!

Matthew 12:31
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

again i repeat:

i believe  there is only ONE GOD
and for me He is the Father, He is the Son, He is the Holy spirit!

James 2:19
19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe梐nd tremble!

-bye bye-
:love:

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