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Author: Azizul

Bunyi kuat dan 2 gerhana di bulan Ramadhan

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Post time 24-9-2005 12:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Azizul at 23-9-2005 10:00 PM
Apa fitnah2 plak ni Mr Exaggerate..


personal attack huh? ok. so which part of my pervious post u think is an exaggeration?


takut sebab your location ke?


location? i'm not sure if u know this, but should the Yellowstone erupts, the whole globe will be affected, directly and indirectly. no matter where i am, i'll be affected to a certain degree.


If you really love and you want to protect your beloved American


am i trying to protect them? first of all, if i can protect, i'll protect anybody. but i didn't say anything about me protecting anybody in this thread. aku cabar ko buktikan part mane of my previous statements here yang aku cakap aku nak protect americans.

what i want to do is to protect us.  orang melayu senang sangat percaya pada khabar angin tanpa kajian mendalam.




Saya masih mencari-cari akan kebenaran akan datangnya
bunyi yang kuat pada bulan Ramadhan tahun ini.


you come here and post this message and said that u're looking for "kebenaran". but u're scared of questions. i raised  questions and u haven't really answered them.


Originally posted by Azizul at 23-9-2005 08:56 AM
-->Yellowstone Super Volcano PREDICTION: WILL BLOW BY END OF 2005.
EXCELLENT page,November 5, 2003
Parks was asked if there would be an eruption soon
he said - There has been a rapid change in the region that has never
been seen before. One instrumentation station shows a dramatic
change from mid September into October, 2003.
We should start seeing some kind of activity in the
Pacific northwest part of Yellowstone within 18 to 24 months.


-->God last chance before millions die. I see it in nature with
Yellowstone building to a possible disaster, and it may be in
weeks, I cannot know. I do not deny man may be causing
this. If the Illuminati are about to trigger this blast,
it will be far beyond anything they can control. I hope you
have at least a weeks supply of food and water.
SHARE with your neighbors!


i asked u who wrote those. no answer. ko cakap content first post ko tu hasil kajian ko sendiri. so ko mesti tau mane source dia. readers should be able to validate the authenticity and the reliability of the source. you learnt writing didn't u?  


Bukankah kata-kata pakar geologi itu bertepatan dgn hadis Rasulullah SAW?

- DUA GERHANA DALAM SATU BULAN RAMADHAN
- LETUPAN GUNUNG BERAPI DI YELLOWSTONE PARK
- BUNYINYA AKAN DIDENGARI DI SELURUH DUNIA
- LANGIT AKAN BERDEBU/BERKABUT YG MENYEBABKAN TANAMAN MATI
- BEKALAN MAKANAN UNTUK SETAHUN PERLU DISEDIAKAN
- OKTOBER INI? RAMADHAN INI?


i asked u if Rasulullah specifically mentioned Yellowstone or the exact location of yellowstone. you did not answer. I want a yes or no. if no, u'd better take that particular statement back, since kalau betul Rasulullah tak cakap camtu, DO NOT buat cerita. fitnah namenye, no matter what the intention is.


and if u read my previous messages carefully, i did not say it wont happen. but for now there's no clear indication that it will happen anytime soon. if you have good evidence/source, let us know. i'm more than happy to believe it if you have it.


did you happen to study at INTEC, UiTM shah alam? if you did, there's a class specifically about critical thinking. if u didn't take that class, i believe u must have taken some writing classes in the US. didn't u learn anything about making valid claims? didn't u learn anything about quoting appropriate sources? didn't u learn anything about the importance of being clear and accurate?
Tapi masalahnya aku sendiri yg dah terlanjur tinggal kat US ni.

if u didn't learn those, i suggest you to go home. yes u have terlanjur, since u've gone so far an learnt so little.

hack u dont even need to learn writing to know that. i'm sure ur Ustaz taught you how important the reliability of your source is. for example, one cannot be convicted if no clear evidence is provided. another example, not just anybody is good enough to compile Hadiths. dont u see that how important the reliability of the source of information is?




p/s: dont blame me for making personal attacks. you asked for it. and i have to highlight my statements a little bit, since it seems like you dont pay close attention of details.
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Post time 24-9-2005 12:07 PM | Show all posts
If you really love and you want to protect your beloved American,let me say that dunia terutama Amerika akan menjadi aman harmoni selama-lamanya tanpa sebarang bencana,tanpa kematian yang menakutkan..people will live in peace,forever and ever..the hadiths are not applicable. Is that what you want?


I WANT TO KNOW WHERE U GET THOSE INFORMATIONS. <---- isn't this clear enough?
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Post time 24-9-2005 12:13 PM | Show all posts
the hadiths are not applicable


i believe in hadiths, but i dont believe in your interpretation to it. you can't (haven't) even backed up your arguments with solid evidence yet. u just related rumors and hadiths, and expect me to believe it. do not pollute hadiths like that.
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Post time 24-9-2005 12:20 PM | Show all posts
And remember one thing,when the actual disaster come,nobody can run away. Everybody will say that it's a 'rumor',even how smart they are...


and it's not wrong not to believe in something that you can't prove. and i'm not gonna pretend that i know when it will happen. i'm not trying to run away from it or deny that the possibility is there. i'm not fighting God's power here, but i'm fighting you who makes weak claims.
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Post time 24-9-2005 12:21 PM | Show all posts
i've written a few messages in a row. so READ carefully before you respond. and make sure you quote me when responding.
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Post time 24-9-2005 12:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by adheq at 23-9-2005 05:32 PM
tapi mungkin dia meletup time org tak expect. mungkin awal. mungkin lambat. mungkin tanpa amran langsung.  


that's right.
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Post time 25-9-2005 06:27 AM | Show all posts
Ever heard of this phrase:

Assumption is the mother of all......

sorry for language..

[ Last edited by fleurzsa at 28-9-2005 01:41 PM ]
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Post time 25-9-2005 06:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by deepjunior at 25-9-2005 06:27 AM
Ever heard of this phrase:

Assumption is the mother of all .....


not really, but i'm pretty sure assumption without proper judgment is.

[ Last edited by fleurzsa at 28-9-2005 01:42 PM ]
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Post time 25-9-2005 12:44 PM | Show all posts
tumpang lalu ye...

apahal nak gaduh2 lak nih??
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Post time 25-9-2005 02:19 PM | Show all posts
i donno. i started asking question, the person didn't answer but instead made a personal attack. and i'm talking about azizul and i. i dont think deepjunior is 'fighting' with anybody.

[ Last edited by BeanDiesel at 25-9-2005 02:20 PM ]
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Post time 25-9-2005 04:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 23-9-2005 03:01 PM
please respond to my previous message (#11). did Rasulullah mention Yellowstone? if not you'd better take it back. jangan fitnah Rasulullah.


tue lar pasal... setau aku tak penah pun hadis Rasulullah mention pasal yellowstone??
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Post time 25-9-2005 10:11 PM | Show all posts
Suara kuat tu suara aku lah...miar har har. :lol

Ramadhan tahun 1999 tu... Aku tengah perang  bantu Mahdey time tu siotsss....  :cak:
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Post time 26-9-2005 09:29 AM | Show all posts
apa gaduh2 nie...relak ar..motif Azizul letak aritikel utk info sume, so kalau korang nak tau lagi detail...buat research...
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Post time 26-9-2005 09:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Muntz at 25-9-2005 04:25 PM


tue lar pasal... setau aku tak penah pun hadis Rasulullah mention pasal yellowstone??



memang takde mention Yellowstone....tp maksud tersiratnya, bunyi yg kuat tuh, debu yg tebal, bekalan makanan yg kehabisan tuh menyamai ramalan scientice bout yellowstone volcano tuh......cuba lah pikir mendalam sket...asyik nak fakta/bukti jer...inilah pemikiran org sekular...
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Post time 26-9-2005 09:40 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by crysT@|| at 26-9-2005 09:29 AM
apa gaduh2 nie...relak ar..motif Azizul letak aritikel utk info sume, so kalau korang nak tau lagi detail...buat research...

Pada saya, ini bukan pendekatan yang terbaik.

Lebih baik kalau sesiapa yang nak post disini berusaha buat research dulu sebelum post, supaya tak menyebarkan berita palsu. Dan kalau kita gunakan Quran atau hadith sebagai sumber, kita patut jelaskan ayat mana atau hadith mana yang kita gunakan. Dengan cara ini, tak akan timbul perbalahan. Kalau tidak, apa yang kita lakukan cumalah spreading rumours.

Don't spread rumours!

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Post time 26-9-2005 09:41 AM | Show all posts

janagn bergahuh...

Untuk semua muslim dan muslimat...
tak lama lagi bulan ramadan dan Puasa...
kita tunggu dan lihat apa kah fakta yg korang bincang ini benar atau tidak..

Gerhana bulan dan matahari pada bulan ramadan ini..
Bunyi suara yg kuat...
setahu saya kalau lah gerhana bulan dan matahari akan berlaku pada bulan ramadan ini..kenpa pakar kaji bintang tak heboh pun dlm TV pada masa ini..setahu saya bila sesuatu perkata yg melibat perubahan pada alam selalu nya di hebah lebih awal oleh media masa..
anyway...sama-sama lah kita tunggu dan lihat masa nya dah pun dekat..
Allah maha mengetahui segala sesuatu ....

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Post time 26-9-2005 09:45 AM | Show all posts
Cerita "gerhana bulan dan matahari dibulan ramadan" ni dah tersebar sejak 3 tahun lepas. Tiap2 tahun bila dekat ramadan, keluarlah cerita ni....

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Post time 26-9-2005 09:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ponder at 26-9-2005 09:45 AM
Cerita "gerhana bulan dan matahari dibulan ramadan" ni dah tersebar sejak 3 tahun lepas. Tiap2 tahun bila dekat ramadan, keluarlah cerita ni....


bunyi suara yg kuat tu sekadar ramalan. ramalan ni (termasuk pergolakan politik di Arab Saudi dll) ada disebarkan awal tahun ni, yg ditulis oleh seorang alumni al-azhar. jugak, yg biasa menulis ttg ramalan ni ialah M. Isa Dawud. apa-pun kita tgk lah nanti berlaku tak. kalau tak berlaku maknanya tak betul lah tu. selesai.

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Post time 26-9-2005 10:57 AM | Show all posts
"Bunyi suara yang kuat" tu baru tahun ni saya baca. Tapi, tentang gerhana dan imam Mahadi tu, dah lama.

Yang berikut ni ditulis dalam tahun 2002:

"Allah gives a sign that Mahdi (atfs) will be among us when a double eclipse occurs in the month of Ramadan. Al-hamdulillah, this past Ramadan i was prompted to investigate the matter of when such an astronomical sign might occur. The information that i found revealed that this miraculous event is scheduled for Ramadan 2003. "It has been reported from Abu Jafar (as) that the event of the Mahdi's appearance shall be attended by two clear signs which will carry with them the weight of ten strong signs. These are the solar and the lunar eclipses; and a similar sign has never happened ever since Adam came upon this planet." (Notes: Ikmal al-Din, p. 361 )
http://www.islamicdigest.net/v61/content/view/244/1/

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Post time 26-9-2005 10:58 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by crysT@|| at 26-9-2005 09:29 AM
apa gaduh2 nie...relak ar..motif Azizul letak aritikel utk info sume, so kalau korang nak tau lagi detail...buat research...


the ethic of writing and informing is the author has to make proper quotation. maknanya kena la kasi sumber ngan jelas. so readers can verify after that.
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