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PINJAMAN ASB.

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Post time 28-1-2010 02:45 PM | Show all posts
mana lagi untung?? buat pinjaman ASB atau pun simpan duit every month dalam ASB dengan jumlah yg sama dengan bayaran bulanan pelaburan ASB tu???

ade tak yg paham soalan ni???? :re:
whiteroselady Post at 28-1-2010 12:10


loan ASB lagi untung selagi profit/interest rate lebih rendah dari dividen ASB
simpan duit lagi untung jika profit/interest rate lebih tinggi dari dividen ASB

takyah guna calcultor pun dah tau mana yg untung.
so sapa yg masih terikat ngan loan BLR + ?% masa dulu, memang rugi lar sebab sekarang dah ada BLR - 1.65%.
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Post time 28-1-2010 02:54 PM | Show all posts
katakan tahun 2010, dividen asb 7%
blr telah naik kepada 6%,
dgn BLR - 1.65%, rate sebenar = 4.35%
so untung bersih = 7% - 4.35% = 2.65%

buat loan ASB 200k
untung bersih 2010 = 200,000 x 2.65% = RM5300

jgn dilupa, capital anda yg dibayar bulan-bulan tak ilang yer
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Post time 28-1-2010 04:33 PM | Show all posts
haha...rajin putragold tlg jawabkan....
cayolah bro....

aku ingt da bape puluh kali da jawab soklan samo jo ni...
xpe2...dont worry...sharing is caring....rite

erm,sapo2 xpaham...leh tnye lg...tp,klu bleh selak2 ler eh page2 sblm ni seholai duo page dulu....pastu xphm gak...xpe otai ramai kt cni bleh bantu....xde sapo nk marah pun...xbaik kodokut ilmu ni....
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Post time 28-1-2010 05:19 PM | Show all posts
mana lagi untung?? buat pinjaman ASB atau pun simpan duit every month dalam ASB dengan jumlah yg sama dengan bayaran bulanan pelaburan ASB tu???

ade tak yg paham soalan ni???? :re:
whiteroselady Post at 28-1-2010 12:10


soklan ni pun da pnh de org jawab...
tp,aku bleh jawab lg...just simple jer la...nk jawapan detail ko try gak selak page2 sblm ni...
klu btul nk tau...xrugi ooo bace dr page sblm2 ni...byk pengetahuan yg tersirat & kelebihan2 yg ade uat loan/simpan kt asb nie....terokai la ilmu2 ni...free jerk ma...

berbalik kt soklan ko...
mane lg untung rite???soklan mmg pendek tp,huraian die kene terperinci sbnrnye...bkn ape..klu x..bleh jadi salah phm...
sbbnye...masing2 ade kelebihan/kelemahan tersendiri...tp,disebalik kelebihan/kelemahan tue...klu ade yg tau nk handle ngan cara yg btul..so,xde ape yg jd masalah pun...sbb klu nk cter secara basic...kedua2nye bleh mmberikan keuntungan...
xde sape yg rugi...just perbandingan secara teori tuk soklan ko...mmg simpan sendri lg untung sbnrnyer sbbnye xde langsung dikenakan interest spnjang tempoh pinjaman dibuat...tp,persoalan akan timbul...bleh ker ko konsisten simpan jer tanpa keluarkan sesen spnjang tempoh tertentu sama mcm uat loan??tkut nnt bile nmpak duit da byk ckit da gatal tgn

kedua,xde cover insuran...pape terjadi di pertengahan jln...just dlm saving tue jerk...tp,klu loan..ade advantage utk uat loan..bilemane terjadi pape..waris dpt keseluruhan duit pinjaman yg dibuat...wlupun baru sbulan bayar...hahaha da tersalah niat ni...tp,klu da rezki nk uat cmnekan2...

so,ade pro & cons...dan macam2 lagi la...yg penting dua2 pun xmerugikan...so,pilih je la mane yg ko suke & mmpu...xpun uat je due2 kaedah skali.. xde sape nk halang/marah...yg xsimpan langsung tue jerk yg payah...
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Post time 28-1-2010 09:28 PM | Show all posts
Mengikut pndgn Putragold,
MBB dgn Easy-RHB mana lg untung?
(melalui kaedah rolling div utk cover monthly)
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Post time 29-1-2010 07:48 AM | Show all posts
Mengikut pndgn Putragold,
MBB dgn Easy-RHB mana lg untung?
(melalui kaedah rolling div utk cover monthly)
polaris_girlz Post at 28-1-2010 21:28


disebabkan bende ni baru...so,kene uat culculation ckit ar...dan x lupe jugak kena gak amik tau pro & cons yg ade...
mksud aku cth,dr segi tempoh fee yg dikenakan...package2 yg diberi mcm BLR- bape%...maximum loan yg bleh uat...include cover insurans or whatever ar...br betul2 nmpak kt mane untungnye tue...xde lah nmpak keuntungan kasar pd nilainye saje xgitu...so,br sng nk decide...utk uat next tools to generate the income pasif nie

so,putragold tlg update hehehe...aku pun nk tau gak brite baik ni..
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Post time 29-1-2010 09:01 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by putragold at 29-1-2010 09:04
Mengikut pndgn Putragold,
MBB dgn Easy-RHB mana lg untung?
(melalui kaedah rolling div utk cover monthly)
polaris_girlz Post at 28-1-2010 21:28


apa kata polaris_girlz bagi info pakej terkini mbb & ezrhb kat sini. kita leh kira sama-sama. lar ni rhb ada offer, info dari bebas-hutang
<as of 24/01/2010>
RM10,000 to RM49,999
1st year                      :3.8%
Subsequent years :BLR-1.35%
RM50,000 & above
1st year                     :3.8%
Subsequent years :BLR-1.5%

Processing Fee: RM100
Exit Fee
1st 2 years
3% of approved loan amount3rd to 5th year
1% of approved loan amount if settled by liquidation of certificates. However, NO exit fee if settled by own funds from 3rd year to 5th year.

tengok juga web ni http://www.horlic.com/tag/maybank-asb-loan/
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Post time 2-2-2010 01:25 AM | Show all posts
rasanye ezrhb lagi untung ,pada siape yg pentingkan cashflow everymonth kalo pinjam 100k every month bayar 386 je selama 5 tahun (interest shj). After 3 years ade option utk terminate without any penalty. No processing fee and no compulsory insurance, nak amik bole xnak amik pun bole, So basic calculation die camni, assume dividen ASB 8%

Rate BLR-1
386x 12 = 4632 - jumlah perlu dibayar setahun
100000 x 8%  = 8000 - dividen
8000 -4632 = 3368 (untung setahun)

Compare kan dengan loan MBB for 100000, every month bayar 524
Rate BLR -1.65 (latest rate)
524 x 12 = 6288
8000 - 6288 = 1712 (untung setahun)
so mana lagi untung?

Conclusion for short term amik ezrhb (after 5 years terminate), long term amik maybank hehe
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Post time 2-2-2010 09:58 AM | Show all posts
rasanye ezrhb lagi untung ,pada siape yg pentingkan cashflow everymonth kalo pinjam 100k every month bayar 386 je selama 5 tahun (interest shj). After 3 years ade option utk terminate without any pena ...
aku_ker Post at 2-2-2010 01:25


hang lupa yg mmb tu, capital kita masih ada lagi dan interest rendah.
ezrhb, interest tinggi.
8% dividen jgn harap sangat lar nak dapat lagi 2-3 tahun akan dtg, ekonomi makin teruk, blr akan terus naik.
to be safe, pilih yg low interest.

masih menanti latest detail pakej mbb, ezrhb. takde yg nak share ke
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Post time 2-2-2010 05:42 PM | Show all posts
519# putragold

Erm betul tu, sbb die bayar interest je for 5 years, sbb tu EZRHB is for short team, after 5 years or minimum 3 years bole terminate without any penalty. So diadvise utk terminate after 5 years for EZRHB. Advantage here is cashflow everymonth, only bayar 386 for EZRHB compare to 524 for MBB for 100k loan
Perlu diingatkan jugak kalo BLR naik bayaran for MBB for akan naik jugak, sbb skg offer BLR -1.65, bukanye fix rate.
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Post time 3-2-2010 03:30 PM | Show all posts
baru pegi maybank tadi. maybank pon sekarang offer BLR -1.65%. tapi untuk loan atas 30k kalu tak silap. kalau bawah 30k interest dia mahal sikit.
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Post time 3-2-2010 03:34 PM | Show all posts
8% dividen jgn harap sangat lar nak dapat lagi 2-3 tahun akan dtg, ekonomi makin teruk, blr akan terus naik.
putragold Post at 2-2-2010 09:58


yang ni memang betul ke. ingatkan kalau BLR naik dividen pun naik jugak
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Post time 3-2-2010 03:35 PM | Show all posts
Rate BLR-1
386x 12 = 4632 - jumlah perlu dibayar setahun
100000 x 8%  = 8000 - dividen
8000 -4632 = 3368 (untung setahun)

Compare kan dengan loan MBB for 100000, every month bayar 524
Rate BLR -1.65 (latest rate)
524 x 12 = 6288
8000 - 6288 = 1712 (untung setahun)
so mana lagi untung?
aku_ker Post at 2-2-2010 01:25


easy rhb ni prisipal dia kita dapat ke kalau terminate tengah jalan
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Post time 3-2-2010 07:34 PM | Show all posts
518# aku_ker

kalau maybank ngan cimb kalau terminate dapat balik principl..ezrhb nan ado....
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Post time 3-2-2010 07:36 PM | Show all posts
520# aku_ker

jadi, EZRHB ni rate dia sama je ke for 5 tahun walaupun blr naik?

ni pun dgr citer blr nak naik dlm 40-60 bp march nih....
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Post time 4-2-2010 01:12 AM | Show all posts
Rate BLR-1
386x 12 = 4632 - jumlah perlu dibayar setahun
100000 x 8%  = 8000 - dividen
8000 -4632 = 3368 (untung setahun)

Compare kan dengan loan MBB for 100000, every month bayar 524
Rate BLR -1.65 (latest rate)
524 x 12 = 6288
8000 - 6288 = 1712 (untung setahun)
so mana lagi untung?

aku_ker Post at 2-2-2010 01:25


jap,keuntungan loan MBB masih blum cmpur ngan prinsipal yg ade...so,keuntungan tue masih xbtul lg...pls check balik...lg satu kedua2 loan ni di buat utk tempoh yg same ker??bape thun??

cth,
katakanlah dlm 20thun loan 100k...so,prinsipal satu thun ade lebih kurang dlm 5k per year...
so,untung untuk loan MBB sptut kiraannyer camni ler kan....Rm8000-Rm6288=Rm1712+Rm5k(prinsipal)=Rm6712 right???klu x silap ler...
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Post time 4-2-2010 01:16 AM | Show all posts
but,pape pun...yg bg info kene terang dulu...br leh uat kire2...td tue aku just bg care kiraannyer shj...but nilai yg wujud tue aku xpasti...sbb bergantung pd info yg da tersedia ade jerk...thanks
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Post time 4-2-2010 09:07 PM | Show all posts
Jgn confuse, EZRHB ko xkan dapat balik prinsiple(for 1st 5 years) sbb for 5 years ko bayar interest je.Tapi yg aku nampak advantage ezrhb ialah ko bayar rendah bulan2 ,386 compare to MBB ,524, so ko dah save 138 every month, (nak beli susu anak ke, bayar ansuran kete, baya loan PTPTN ke dsb).

Berbalik pada MBB ASB loan lak, ko bayar 524+insurance. Kalo ko terminate ko akan dapat balik prinsiple, tapi jgn lupa ko akan dikenakan penalti 3 %@1% dari baki loan ko.So korang kira sendiri la bape korang dapat.Ni ade calculator nak kira principle and interest
http://www.ambg.com.my/retail.as ... inancing_calculator
Die bagi complete amortization table.

Pada aku lagi suka EZ sbb aku bayar rendah bulan2, duit balance tu aku bole masuk tabung haji @ ASW, or utk perbelanjaan emergency. After 5 years aku akan terminate tanpa dikenakan apa2 penalti.And EZrhb ko x wajib amik insurance, loan ASB lain seme wajib so ade extra payment ko kene bayar bulan2.

Semua terpulang pada masing2 punya matlamat. AKu just nak makan dividen sambil bayar sikit and after 5 years aku akan terminate.
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Post time 4-2-2010 09:13 PM | Show all posts
jap,keuntungan loan MBB masih blum cmpur ngan prinsipal yg ade...so,keuntungan tue masih xbtul lg...pls check balik...lg satu kedua2 loan ni di buat utk tempoh yg same ker??bape thun??

cth,
ka ...
xXxBoYzZz Post at 4-2-2010 01:12


Jgn lupa tolak 3% penalti and insurance kene bayar every month   . Sape2 yg dah terminate loan asb bole share kalo ade apa2 lagi hidden charge.
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Post time 5-2-2010 12:39 AM | Show all posts
tapi jgn lupa ko akan dikenakan penalti 3 %@1% dari baki loan ko.

After 5 years aku akan terminate tanpa dikenakan apa2 penalti.And EZrhb ko x wajib amik insurance, loan ASB lain seme wajib so ade extra payment ko kene bayar bulan2.

aku_ker Post at 4-2-2010 21:07


1)loan MBB mmg ade dikenakan penalti bergantung pada kontrak samada 1thun bg maybank/3thun bg RHB and Cimb bank(klu x silap ler sbb da lame xupdate)...tp,slepas dr tempoh tue tidak akan dikenakan penalti wlupun tempoh loan blum tamat...
so,klu compare utk 5thun...mknenye due2 still tidak dikenakan penalti la...kecuali la klu terminate sblum tmpoh penalti dikenakan tue shje...

2)maybank ngan cimb shje yg wajib ade...klu ngan rhb still ade pilihan...samada nk insuran ataupun tidak..klu nk pun...die bukan mcm maybank...potongan melalui bulanan..tp,trus bayar lumsum utk insuran 2...yg pasti masih ade pilihan...

p/s:masih ternnt2 sape2 yg bleh bg detail package terkini bg 2 plan yg ade ni...
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