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Author: Alion

Bapa Zina Halal Kahwin Anak Zina?

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Post time 3-6-2015 02:50 PM | Show all posts
napala bincang psl thread ustaz pondan ni.

dulu pung pang kecoh parti ni tk betul, itu tak betul,
bila diajak join masuk PRU, jadi ahli parlimen, tegakkn kerajaan isle, dia sendiri tak berani.

pondan benar, balik2 create isu bahlul cmni, pstu dh panas, buat diri cm 'hero'..


baik potong je totei tu, lempar kt anjing.
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:03 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Imam Syafie bagi kawen anak kandung luar nikah ikut la..

Kan @Modngengadee syumul n perfect betul agama ko.

Taurat tu sendiri bermaksud Peraturan...gi bukak kitab Peraturan tu.
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:15 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
revolusi_30 replied at 3-6-2015 01:25 PM
so meleis yg sikit2 Shafie sikit2 Syafie seharusnya terima aja hukum ini ...

Seronok la bapak kaki zina penganut tegar mazhab Syafiee....

Seronok syafie nengok kalau masih hidup.
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:16 PM | Show all posts
sabbath_shalom replied at 3-6-2015 03:03 PM
Imam Syafie bagi kawen anak kandung luar nikah ikut la..

Kan @Modngengadee syumul n perfect betul ...

akak membuka kitab peraturan sis yg telah diubahsuai sejak berjaman sambil tersenyum sinis sis...boleh????
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:18 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengadee replied at 3-6-2015 03:16 PM
akak membuka kitab peraturan sis yg telah diubahsuai sejak berjaman sambil tersenyum sinis sis...b ...

Bestnya agam sis...bapa kaki zina boleh kahwin dengan anak hasil zina nya...lepastu kawen dengan cucu zinanya..cicit zinanya....


Hamboi masuk syurga pon ngesks pulak dgn 74 biadadari....dah macam agama porno je sis.
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:23 PM | Show all posts
--ya, mengikut research google, mmg boleh bapak kawein dgn anak luar nikah dia. Sah.
--hina betul taraf anak luar nikah especially perempuan dalam islam, macam takde nilai langsunggggg. itulah yg didebatkan skrg
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:26 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengadee replied at 3-6-2015 02:50 PM
kan sis....kalau kakak kata al-quran bisa membenarkan hubungan seks sejenis pasti sis rasa itu jaw ...

Agama islam tu agama perbahasan para ulamak kan sis....

Siapa yg pinda hukum Allah sis....yg kuat berqias dgn pendapat mazhab la kannn?

Syok nye ye lepas zina boleh buat anak tu jadi bini...yg pompuan kalau anak lelaki boleh buat suami....akak @ modngengadee tak try
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:29 PM | Show all posts
Edited by cak! at 3-6-2015 03:31 PM

imam syafie kata kalo dia punya fatwa xbetul jgn ikut..so majoriti jumhur ulama dah kata haram..tutup buku..case closed
xpayah buang masa berdebat
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:38 PM | Show all posts
sabbath_shalom replied at 3-6-2015 03:26 PM
Agama islam tu agama perbahasan para ulamak kan sis....

Siapa yg pinda hukum Allah sis....yg ku ...

perbahasan ulamak berdasarkan al-quran dan hadis sis sabbath....


kakak rasa ummah yahudi dan nasaro dah lama menzinai anak2 mereka kerna free sex kata mereka...malah suami jiran yahudi dan nasaro biasa menjimak isteri jiran mereka sis sabbath...terpancar terik kesyummulan ummah kan sis...
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:42 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengadee replied at 3-6-2015 03:38 PM
perbahasan ulamak berdasarkan al-quran dan hadis sis sabbath....



Al-Quran tu kan terang lagi nyata n sempurna...lagi nak bahas buat peraturan sndiri....

Mana satu yg betul sis?

So dalam kes kawen anak hasil zina sendiri ni....sis nak ikut cakap Imam mana sis?
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:42 PM | Show all posts
sabbath_shalom replied at 3-6-2015 03:18 PM
Bestnya agam sis...bapa kaki zina boleh kahwin dengan anak hasil zina nya...lepastu kawen dengan c ...

asas agama islam mengharamkan zina sis....tapi dlm agama sis sabbath  mungkin zina tu sesuatu yg dibanggakan...nahhh lihat dinegara2 yg ramai ummah kristian dan nasaro....zina itu perkara yg amat dibanggakan....maka akak sarankan agar sis boleh cuba2 mengahwini anak luar nikah sis agar mendapat restu yahweh
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:46 PM | Show all posts
sabbath_shalom replied at 3-6-2015 03:42 PM
Al-Quran tu kan terang lagi nyata n sempurna...lagi nak bahas buat peraturan sndiri....

Mana sa ...

sis faham kah maksud bahas di sini?  perbincangan agar masing2 sepakat dlm mentafsir al-quran....sis ingat mcm bahas piala perdana ker sis....senyum sinis akak

tidak seperti kitab taurat yg ditafsir oleh beribu insan....ujung2 kitab junjungan sis cuma ada 1% jua ketulenannya.....selebihnya adalah karangan insan2 malang spt sis....
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:48 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengadee replied at 3-6-2015 02:50 PM
kan sis....kalau kakak kata al-quran bisa membenarkan hubungan seks sejenis pasti sis rasa itu jaw ...

Tapi menurut Qoran di sorga hubungan sejenis memang halal pun kan sis.
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Post time 3-6-2015 03:52 PM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 3-6-2015 02:37 PM
Sebegitulah Lkick. Kalau olamak suruh telan tahi kita wajib telan saja. Tak boleh persoal kenapa ...

Kalau I ada situ I dah ludah kan muka ostad cari makan tu dah cikgu.......jijik la dia cerita camtu
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chazey replied at 3-6-2015 02:40 PM
Jadi mana satu yang betul ini Alion? Boleh ka tak boleh Alion sebagai seorang lelaki Muslim misa ...

Mengikut pendapat aku tak salah kahwin dgn lain agama atau tak ada agama. Sebab keimanan hanya dia yg tahu beriman atau tidak. Pentingnya ada perjanjian perkahwinan. Lagipun kahwin campur anak lebih bijak. Jika kahwin sesama muslim sebangsa pula tu mungkin anak kurang bijak. Betul tak.
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Post time 3-6-2015 04:00 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengadee replied at 3-6-2015 03:42 PM
asas agama islam mengharamkan zina sis....tapi dlm agama sis sabbath  mungkin zina tu sesuatu yg d ...

dalam mazhab sis si penzina boleh hidup gumbira...kalau ikut Written Torah dh lama mati sis...benda tu tertulis dlm 10 commandments

Ni ayat nye
Leviticus 18:8-18New International Version (NIV)

8 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.

9 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

10 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your father’s close relative.

13 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she is your mother’s close relative.

14 “‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son’s wife; do not have relations with her.

16 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother.

17 “‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.
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Post time 3-6-2015 04:02 PM | Show all posts
sabbath_shalom replied at 3-6-2015 04:00 PM
dalam mazhab sis si penzina boleh hidup gumbira...kalau ikut Written Torah dh lama mati sis...bend ...

Umat Muhammad ikut Quran dan Hadis
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Post time 3-6-2015 04:02 PM | Show all posts
sabbath_shalom replied at 3-6-2015 04:00 PM
dalam mazhab sis si penzina boleh hidup gumbira...kalau ikut Written Torah dh lama mati sis...bend ...

sis sabbath....panjang nyer post....

btw ni akak menjemput sis sabbath berkunjung ke tered ini.....silakan sis...

http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum. ... &extra=page%3D1
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Post time 3-6-2015 04:06 PM | Show all posts
Alion replied at 3-6-2015 04:00 PM
Mengikut pendapat aku tak salah kahwin dgn lain agama atau tak ada agama. Sebab keimanan hanya dia ...

Kalau basic kita ikut sesuatu ugama cth ISLAM...tak perlu pertikaikan yang basic memang telah dinyatakan.
Berlainan ugama hanya terpakai dahulunya pada yang ugama asal...kalau dah ada perubahan-manusia byk pada ugama asal tu ..tak dibenarkan.
Ini yang pasti...tak boleh kompromi pada masalah ni sebab kemungkinan akan mengconfusekan keturunan kaum kerabat akan datang.
Allah jadikkan manusia dia tau cara manusia berfikir dan apa yang akan jadi akan datang.
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Post time 3-6-2015 04:08 PM | Show all posts
Alion replied at 3-6-2015 04:00 PM
Mengikut pendapat aku tak salah kahwin dgn lain agama atau tak ada agama. Sebab keimanan hanya dia ...

Bijak tak bijak nya................ikut lah masing masing..ada gek yang kawin campur tak bijak...lol
Ada kawin tak campur pun bijak. tgk gek bijak camana....................ada org bangga bijak akedemik/ugama/kemanusian dll..so ikut memasing lah yer.
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