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'Pinjaman Islam' sepatutnya tidak membebankan-Sistem perbankan Islam tidak zalim

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Post time 24-1-2012 11:26 PM | Show all posts
umpama seperti semata-mata kerana nak menghalalkan pub dan arak , lalu diletak ayat bismillah de ...
blastoff Post at 24-1-2012 23:17



    umpama majlis tazkirah disudahi dengan joget lambak kekdahnya..
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Post time 24-1-2012 11:39 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by blastoff at 24-1-2012 23:41
macam sistem Ah Long jer ni, cuma tak ada lempar cat merah jer...
Hang Post at 24-1-2012 18:51


apabila bank melabelkan sistem jualbeli taghut sebagai Islamic maka bank sebenarnya telah bertindak mengubah hukum Allah dari haram kepada halal , bagaimana pula dengan si "pembeli" yang percaya hidup-hidup pada tipudaya bank tersebut lalu teruih anggap bahwa sistem jualbeli tu memang dari Allah dan halal ?

Tidakkah "pembeli" tu turut sama terjerumus dalam dosa mengubah hukum Allah dari haram menjadi halal ? ... pada sesiapa di luar sana yang dah terpedaya dengan tipudaya para bank nih elok-eloklah perbanyakkan taubat nasuha dan perbetulkan kembali tanggapan yang sesat tersebut agar di akhirat nanti tidak turut diheret sama ke neraka jahannam kerana memandai suka suki ubah hukum Allah .
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Post time 24-1-2012 11:42 PM | Show all posts
Jgn pinjam wang kt 'peminjam wang berlesen dan x berlesen'...
i.e. Bank, Ah Long, creditor, ceti, etc.
Jgn meminjam hanya sbb nk 'labuhkn kain' a.k.a. 'glamour', materialisme, etc.

Pinjam utk keperluan dan bkn kehendak.
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:06 AM | Show all posts
Nampak sangat.

Macam aku cakap, atas kertas memang nampak urusan jual-beli dan memang mengikut agama.

Tapi hakikatnya orang datang nak pinjam duit. Tapi dipaksa untuk setuju sign paper yang konar dan putar2 bagi nampak macam jual-beli.

Takkan dia expect tuhan boleh terpedaya dengan benda2 macam ni? Sedangkan niat asal bukan jual-beli.
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:06 AM | Show all posts
umpama majlis tazkirah disudahi dengan joget lambak kekdahnya..
moskau12 Post at 24-1-2012 23:26


tazkirah 2 minit aje , tapi 2 jam joget lambak , so majlis joget lambak di awali dengan tazkirah lah kalau gitu kekdahnya
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:08 AM | Show all posts
tazkirah 2 minit aje , tapi 2 jam joget lambak , so majlis joget lambak di awali dengan tazkirah ...
blastoff Post at 25-1-2012 12:06 AM

Dan disudahi juga dengan yang ada sebut arob2 gitu.
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:10 AM | Show all posts
ustaz ni balas
moskau12 Post at 24-1-2012 11:14 PM

Bukan dia ni  ke antara orang yang bermati2an nak cari jalan camne menghalalkan bank yang menindas orang?
Ke aku salah orang?
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:21 AM | Show all posts
xdak2... ustaz ni dah terangkan... mana ada riba kekdahnya... u as free man kalu tak stuju ...
moskau12 Post at 24-1-2012 23:22


hohoho. Ala diorang tau yang orang nak pinjam tu in the end akan terpaksa gak sign and setuju dengan so call islamic banking ni sebab diorang takde pilihan and diorang ingat islamic banking ni memang betul islamic.
macam2 la ustaz tu.
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:28 AM | Show all posts
hohoho. Ala diorang tau yang orang nak pinjam tu in the end akan terpaksa gak sign and setuju de ...
minah_tompel Post at 25-1-2012 12:21 AM

Mana berani dia nak jawab TIDAK kat orang yang bayar gaji kat diorang.
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:39 AM | Show all posts
Bukan dia ni  ke antara orang yang bermati2an nak cari jalan camne menghalalkan bank yang menindas ...
Babai Post at 25-1-2012 00:10



    dia nila dok pertahankan dan menyuruh kaum melayu memberi support sebaik mungkin kepada perbankan islam walaupon sudah jelas perbankan islam lebih banyak menindas golongan marhain dari perbankan bukan islam kekdahnya
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:46 AM | Show all posts
hohoho. Ala diorang tau yang orang nak pinjam tu in the end akan terpaksa gak sign and setuju de ...
minah_tompel Post at 25-1-2012 00:21



   dok cuba cari jawapan dari dia, kalu barang tak wujud lagi, camne dalam islam kira tuh sebagai urusan jual beli. time rumah ada problem, ngape pembeli yang kena tanggung, padahal bank jual barang yang spatutnya dah siap kalu ikut akad.
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Post time 25-1-2012 12:50 AM | Show all posts
dok cuba cari jawapan dari dia, kalu barang tak wujud lagi, camne dalam islam kira tuh seba ...
moskau12 Post at 25-1-2012 12:46 AM

Ini la yang dinamakan penasihat 25% macam dalam 3 Abdul.
Kencing deras punya penasihat.:@
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Post time 25-1-2012 01:32 AM | Show all posts
ustaz ni balas
moskau12 Post at 24-1-2012 23:14


ustaz ni dah tak nutral sbb majikan dia BANK.  klu nak dptkan pandangan yg nutral kena tanya ustaz yg bukan makan gaji dgn bank.
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Post time 25-1-2012 01:41 AM | Show all posts
ustaz ni dah tak nutral sbb majikan dia BANK.  klu nak dptkan pandangan yg nutral kena tanya ust ...
tobby Post at 25-1-2012 01:32 AM

Kalo yang makan gaji ngan syarikat2 sebagai orang yang memikirkan camne nak halalkan satu2 syarikat tu pun boleh dianggap tak neutral gak. Sebab dia ada tendency untuk cover kawan2 dia yang berada dalam bidang lain (in this case, banking).
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Post time 25-1-2012 02:04 AM | Show all posts
Kalo yang makan gaji ngan syarikat2 sebagai orang yang memikirkan camne nak halalkan satu2 syarika ...
Babai Post at 25-1-2012 01:41


fyi Tuan Haji S.M Idris, pengerusi persatuan pengguna p.pinang (CAP) paling kuat mengkritik penindasan the so called 'bank isle' penipu ni.

Tuan Haji S.M Idris


http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/80692
'Islamic' housing loan rip-off
SM Mohamed Idris
3:42PM Apr 1, 2008        

Can a housing loan be considered ‘Islamic’ when the customer is asked to pay half a million even though the bank only released RM10,000 to the developer? That is why Islamic housing loans should be based on the musharakah mutanaqisah (MM) concept instead of the popular al-bay bithaman ajil (BBA).

A consumer wanted to buy a condominium priced at RM249,500. He signed up for a BBA loan with Bank Islam and as is the practice, the bank bought the condominium from him and sold it back to him at RM744,766. On his part he agreed to make monthly payments to the bank for the next 30 years. When the project was eventually abandoned, he offered to pay the bank the RM10,000 it had released to the developer.

To his horror, he received a lawyer’s letter demanding payment of RM505,368 (which is equal to the profit that the bank should have realised plus the amount already disbursed to the developer). He was equally flabbergasted when he was told that the amount demanded by the bank complied with Shar’iah requirements.

To protect those who put their faith in Islamic housing loans, the loans should be based on the musharakah mutanaqisah (MM) concept.

The MM is basically a diminishing partnership contract whereby the bank and customer would co-own the house. Thereafter, the customer would pay a monthly rental on the property to the bank. As the house is jointly owned, part of the rental would therefore actually belong to the customer himself. Accordingly, over time the customer’s share of ownership of the property would progressively increase and he eventually ends up fully owning the house.

Bank Negara should direct banks to use the MM concept to avoid the problem inherent in the BBA concept. For consumers , loans based on the MM concept are definitely fairer and therefore truly more Islamic.

The writer is president, Consumers Association of Penang.
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Post time 25-1-2012 02:11 AM | Show all posts
fyi Tuan Haji S.M Idris, pengerusi persatuan pengguna p.pinang (CAP) paling kuat mengkritik peni ...
tobby Post at 25-1-2012 02:04 AM

Diorang ni cekik darang giler2.

Yang musyarakah ker aper ker nama tuh. Diorang cuma amalkan time yang nak bahagi2 keuntungan perniagaan jer.
Time risiko, ko tanggung la sorang2.
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Post time 25-1-2012 03:24 AM | Show all posts
A consumer wanted to buy a condominium priced at RM249,500. He signed up for a BBA loan with Bank Islam and as is the practice, the bank bought the condominium from him and sold it back to him at RM744,766. On his part he agreed to make monthly payments to the bank for the next 30 years. When the project was eventually abandoned, he offered to pay the bank the RM10,000 it had released to the developer.


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Mana datang harga RM744,766 tuuuuuuu...??
Adakah itu merupakan harga semasa(rumah tersebut) pada waktu 30 tahun kedepan?


Kalo cenggitu, ah long jalanan pon nak nak tiru jugaklah cara cenggini.
Kalo orang tanya apesal lu charge mahal, nanti depa jawab " Bank Islam pun bikin ini macam mahhh."
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Post time 25-1-2012 03:49 AM | Show all posts
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Mana datang harga RM744,766 tuuuuuuu...??
Adakah itu merupakan  ...
airfilterkotor Post at 25-1-2012 03:24 AM

Ko kalo tanya soalan camni kat stat2 yang makan gaji ngan korporat.
Kompen diorang akan bantai ko balik.
Diorang cuma fikir camne nak halalkan keuntungan berlipat kali ganda.
Orang nak merana ker, mampos ker, belakang kira.
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Post time 25-1-2012 05:20 AM | Show all posts
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Kalo cenggitu, ah long jalanan pon nak nak tiru jugaklah cara cenggini.
Kalo orang tanya apesal lu charge mahal, nanti depa jawab " Bank Islam pun bikin ini macam mahhh."
airfilterkotor Post at 25-1-2012 03:24


memang ada keluar paper tak lama dulu ahlong2 pun sediakan pinjaman islamik dg kaedah & akad yg mrk tiru dari bank isle. tapi ramai pulak agamawan yg kata haram krn pinjaman itu menindas sbb amik untung lipat kali ganda.  kena tang bank isle halal plak.
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Post time 25-1-2012 06:06 AM | Show all posts
memang ada keluar paper tak lama dulu ahlong2 pun sediakan pinjaman islamik dg kaedah & akad yg mrk tiru dari bank isle. tapi ramai pulak agamawan yg kata haram krn pinjaman itu menindas sbb amik untung lipat kali ganda.  kena tang bank isle halal plak.
tobby Post at 25-1-2012 05:20 AM


Kalo Ah Long tu mualaf, macamana..? Automatik syariah compliant gak kot?
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