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berbalik pd cerita TT..
reverse idea... yes ada connection.. but NOT... via Tanah Melayu - travel up north - end in Himalaya
dia dari - Himalaya - travel down south = stay kt Tanah Melayu
Tak munkin melayu = pegi himalaya.. but still ada lagi melayu kt tanah melayu... klu dorang pegi, sure kosong tanah melayu
Remember 5 rujukan - salalatus salatin and few other hikayat lama = yg mengatakan raja2 kita berasal dari Iskandar Zulkarnain???
= Iskandar stucked at himalayan mountains.. could not go further down.. but his descendant managed to fight their way to south - sampai tanah melayu |
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Reply 22# unekspekted_III
yg mengatakan raja2 kita berasal dari Iskandar Zulkarnain???
yg tu memang sahih ke raja2 dulu berasal dari keturunan Alexandros? |
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Reply 23# zaharul_asriq94
alexandros mane satu??? |
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tuan rumah ni aizverus ke?
-wlcome back brotha.. |
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salam...
erm.. yea, hambe lah aizverus, tp id tu dah kena banned sebab post iklan.. ha3
i.d aizverus dan hasell ni diapunya 'feel' len la. hasell ni lebih pada emo.. erm~
macam2
tak de otai mana pun. dulu len skrg len. skrg memang banyak info dan fakta, tp 'kemeriahan' dan 'harmoni' tu tak de. so, tiap kali ku masuk, ku baca, ku akan logout, sbb tiap2 info tu rasa cam masuk otak pastu kuar balik. seolah2 baca buku teks SPM...
Mungkin asriq tau la kot rasanya nak SPM ni.. ha3
oh, lagi satu, kenapa dulu dan skrg lain di board HML ni adalah;
sebab dulu, kita gado2 pun, kita tau 'perangai' masing2.
teringat masa dulu, masa HO7 ada, perang abis.. ha3. tp last2, kita pakat tau camne perangai masing2. nice.
well.. tutup buku lama, bukak buku baru.
back to topic.
memang malas nak menaip, sebab tu kopi pasta je masuk dlm board ni. biar otai2 len yg jawab. ku tanya ni bersebab juga, tp biarlah rahsia.
cuma nak tau, gunung kunlun ni ada kaitan dgn sejarah melayu ke. sebab kalau dlm sejarah cina, kunlun lah tempat bermula nya kung fu.
Kalu dari segi sufis, kungfu, baik pun silat bermula dari gerak (earthly movement) yang di 'salurkan' kepada jasad. biasanya ahli logik tak suka perkara camni. so, kepada yang faham, maka faham la.
so, ku nak katakan di sini adalah;
"melayu itu pencipta gerak seni pertahanan diri, sehinggalah sesuatu bangsa itu mengolahnya mengikut ketamadunan dan persekitaran:...
*itu pun kalau betullah 'melayu' yang merentasi kunlun dan menetap di situ seketika sebelum bergerak ke arah selatan selepas tu.
wallahuaklam |
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salam...
masa HO7 ada, perang abis.
hasell Post at 9-2-2011 01:22 
perang tu ganazz beb...tangkap gegar langit punya tu...aura bersemburan di sana-sini....
time and space, heaven n hell, past and future, warped into words!!
yang dalam2 habis terkeluar..seronok jugak la dilayankan.....tp perang sekarang da tak legendary mcm dulu...
(cth perang skrg: aku ada taik 2 ketul, ko apa ada?...
ahhhh...taik aku lebih cantik bentuknya..lebih pepejal..taik ko lembik, tak cukup serat...hahaha)
kang aku seru HO7/pengganti nnt ni kang kang kang..
tak paham takpe la...saja je meroyon pagi2 buta mcm ni... |
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Ha3.. jangan di seru.
Kang datang betul.. jadi balik la perang antara langit dan bumi. Betul2 history,myth and legend jadinya board ni.
p/s: tp mesti ada org tnya, kenapa kita dok sibuk2 tnya gunung yg baik punya nun jauh di china. kita punya gunung ledang, jerai dll tak abis di bincnagkan, leh plak melencong ke kunlun plak.. ha3. Sebenarnya, lagi di kaji bab kemelayuan ni, lagi atas di bawaknya. mula2 naik ke indo china, pastu baik landing ke tibet, pastu ke parsi plak, last2 skali... timbul satu persoalan "MELAYU NI APA DIA SEBENARNYA" (org tak suka/meroyan dgn term 'melayu' ni pun berkata: "badigol so'ot, melayu pun tak tau. melayu tu bangsa cam bangsa len juga. yang pi asobiyah, nak naikkan nama bangsa sendiri kenapa?") |
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Reply 28# hasell
aku nak tanye... how you conclude - kunlun ----- connected to malay???
- sebab nak associate kehebatan kungfu dgn melayu ker..
- or else?? |
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erm...
tak pasti. sebab tu bukak thread.
cuma nak tau, apakah benar kunlun ni menjadi salah satu tempat persinggahan 'melayu' selain tibet.
Ia 'link' dengan banjaran Himalaya yang banyak orang kita dok kata Himalaya itu salah satu dari 'tanda2' melayu origin.
maaflah, ku byk bagi teori. fakta tak de. sebab tu suka bertnya. mungkin otai2 leh bagi jawapan sepam dua.
p/s: teori umpama soalan, fakta umpama jawapan, saling lengkap melengkapi, tp tak semestinya perfect. Cukuplaj sekadar 'yakin'.  |
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Reply 30# hasell
good answer. tq. |
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Reply 24# unekspekted_III
alexandros tu alexander dalam bahasa yunani  |
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Reply 30# hasell
Aiz, seingat aku la kan. dulu ko ada up gambar carta map origin of bangsa didunia ni secara colourful. ada lagi tak sekarang ? boleh up kan balik ? nanti bole bincangkan sesama. |
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AKu pun dah lama tak masuk sini... masuk kejap baca then kuar...
Aiz, welcome back... love the good old days... |
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Kunlun Nu
Kunlun Nu (Chinese : 崑崙奴 - " The K’un-lun Slave ") was a romance written by P’ei Hsing (Chinese : 裴铏) (c. 880) during the Tang Dynasty. It takes place during the Ta-li reign era (766-80) of Emperor Daizong and follows the tale of a young man named Ts’ui who enlists the aide of Mo-lê, his negrito slave, to help free his beloved who was forced to join the harem of a court official. At midnight, Mo-lê kills the guard dogs around the compound and carries Ts’ui on his back while easily jumping to the tops of walls and bounding from roof to roof. With the lovers reunited, Mo-lê leaps over ten tall walls with both of them on his back. Ts’ui and his beloved are able to live happily together in peace because the official believes she was kidnapped by Chinese knights-errant and did not want to make trouble for himself by pursuing them. However, two years later, one of the official’s attendants sees the girl in the city and reports this. The official arrests Ts’ui and, once he hears the entire story, sends men to capture the negrito slave. But Mo-lê escapes with his dagger (apparently his only possession) and flies over the city walls to escape apprehension. He is seen over ten years later selling medicine in the city, not having aged a single day.
Mo-lê’s gravity defying abilities and agelessness suggests the fictional character might have been a practitioner of esoteric life-prolonging exercises akin to Chinese immortals. According to a tale attributed to the Taoist adept Ge Hong, some hunters in the Zhongnan Mountains saw a naked man whose body was covered in black hair. Whenever they tried to capture him he “ leapt over gullies and valleys as if in flight, and so could not be overtaken." After finally ambushing the man, the hunters learned it was in fact a 200 plus year old woman who had learned the arts of immortality from an old man in the forest. Still, it was popular in folktales for immortals to sell medicine in the city, just like Mo-lê did. The hagiography of the immortal Hu Gong (Sire Gourd) says he sold medicine in the market place during the day and slept in a magic gourd hanging in his stall at night.
Sources : http://www.ankhufurha.com/mwanzo ... K-un-lun-Slave.html
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Post time 8-2-2011 09:16 PM
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