Can God Become A Man? Can God Have A Son?

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buat apa na fikir2 lagi. ni tuhan da bagi melalui ayat2 nya

'Katakanlah: "Dia-lah Allah, Yang Maha Esa (1) Allah adalah Tuhan yang bergantung kepada-Nya segala sesuatu (2) Dia tiada beranak dan tidak pula diperanakkan (3)dan tidak ada seorangpun yang setara dengan Dia (4)'   al ikhlas

sonny~~

the question is Can God Become A Man? Can God Have A Son?

no way sir.  god dont wanna stoop that low to become his own creation man much less to have a son.

let's see what a unitarian has to say    

Well, there are many different perspectives among Christians but it is fair to say that most believe he is (almighty god himself).

There are those who believe Jesus is God as part of a trinity, and there are those who believe that Jesus is God and that God had made himself human.

Interestingly, the first believers did not believe Jesus was God and he was only made into a deity after 100 AD. This is also around the time when the belief in the Trinity began and grew steadily until it was made official by Rome in 325 AD and this is when he was official declared a deity.

Jesus was not all-knowing

“When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just as the Father has taught me.” John 8:28

So Jesus has been taught by God, but God on the other hand needs no teacher.

In the Gospel of Mark we learn that a woman suffering from an illness touched the robe of Jesus. He felt power leave him and he asked, “Who touched me?” and looked for the woman. (Mark 5:30-32) We know that God knows all things, just as He knew Cain had killed Abel.

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sonny~~

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Jesus was not all-powerful

We learn that on one occasion Jesus laid his hands on a man’s eyes to heal him from blindness but his eyesight was not crystal clear, so Jesus laid his hands on the man’s eyes again and then he was finally able to see (Mark 8:22-26). When God said, “Let there be light,” there was light. There was no ‘second-take’ nor did the light flicker until he repeated Himself.

Jesus taught us how to do the things the things he did and said that we could do even greater things:

“I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done and even greater works,” John 14:12

His disciples had also healed the sick using the instructions Jesus gave them and many people are able to do this today and I have applied this in my own life, so his miracle-working ability is not totally unique.

Jesus was sent by God

"They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me." John 15:17

"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the One true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” John 17:3

“I judge only as I hear, and my judgement is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.” (John 5:30) We should do likewise.

*“I have come in my Father’s name,” John 5:43 [and he explains in John 16:12 “During my time here I have protected them by the power of the name you gave me.”]

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Jesus only did and said what God told him to

“When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just as the Father has taught me.” John 8:28

“For I have come down from heaven to do the will of God who sent me, not my own will.” John 6:38

“If I want to glorify myself, it doesn’t count. But it is my Father who will glorify me. You say He is your God, but you don’t even know him. I know him. If I said otherwise I would be a liar like you! But I do know him and obey him.” John 8:54-55

*“Now they know that everything I have is a gift from you, for I have passed on the message you gave me.” John 16:7-8

“Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.” Luke 22:42

“I brought glory to you here on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.” John 17:4

Jesus said God is One

"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the One true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” John 17:3

*"Hear O Israel! The LORD our God, the LORD is One." Mark 12:29

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Jesus prayed to God

*“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Matthew 28:46

“Father if you are willing, take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.” Luke 22:42

He also gave thanks to God prior to raising Lazarus from the dead and performing other miracles.

Jesus said God loves us as much as He loved Jesus

"May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me." John 17:23

Jesus said that we are all God’s children

"Don't cling to me for I haven't ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, I am ascending to your Father and my Father, to your God and my God." John 20:17 (New Living Translation)

"My mothers and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice." Luke 8:21

“You fathers – if your children ask for a fish, do you give them a snake instead? Or if hey ask for an egg, do you give them a scorpion? Of course not! So you sinful people know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask?” Luke 11:11

Note that he did not say that we are adopted - he simply called God our Father.

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sonny~~

let's sing a nursery rhyme while awaiting . . . .

Angels are watching over me tonight.
Angels are watching over me tonight.
As I'm closing my eyes
I remember a prayer
My mama sang to me,
Know the Lord will always be with you
Tonight, tonight.

ibnur

sonny,
Which book do you believe?  When you believe it is from God, it should be holy to you, right?  which one?

DavidW

Who is God to you? Is he not almighty?

sonny~~

sonny,
Which book do you believe?  When you believe it is from God, it should be holy to you, right ...
ibnur Post at 31-1-2011 21:35

why the nonsense questioning?  anyhow since you're superduper MOD me gonna buttering up, right?  hehe

i believe in the bible - new testament gospel which dont say jesus is god, old testament, epistles, scriptures, part of torah and the like.  whatever is written in the bible that dont say jesus is god, is holy to me.  

good to see you popping here.  

sonny~~

Who is God to you? Is he not almighty?
DavidW Post at 1-2-2011 03:33

hello, are you old nick with new nick?  anyhow god to me is ONE AND ONLY, he's not 3 gods in 1 god or 2 gods in 1 god.  and this ONE AND ONLY GOD is infinitely almighty.  

and what are you?  3 in 1, or 2 in 1 or ONE?  

pendakwa

Reply 10# sonny~~
and why are you rejecting the prophecies of Muhammad??

sonny~~

Reply  sonny~~
and why are you rejecting the prophecies of Muhammad??
pendakwa Post at 1-2-2011 16:30

    what prophecies?  at which thread?  i'm waiting.  

pendakwa

reverse quest. do u accept Muhammad as a prophet??

sonny~~

reverse quest. do u accept Muhammad as a prophet??
pendakwa Post at 1-2-2011 19:17

    me accept muhammad as muslim's last prophet.  next earth shattering question.  

pendakwa

Reply 15# sonny~~ as the last prophet of mankind???

sky_ephemeris

If Muhammad the last prophet of mankind, thus Allah should be the God of mankind. But Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan said Allah is Tuhan for Muslim only. Tuhan for other human-beings should be different so the prophet of other human-being too should be from different planet.

DavidW

First of all, there is no reason to believe that Muhamad was a prophet of God.

sky_ephemeris

They will say that Muhammad was prophesied in all scriptures of the previous teachings, not only Christianity and Judaism, but also in Vedas, Zoroastrian holy book, Buddhist Tripitaka and others so all of the people must be Muhammad followers by hook or by crook.

I never heard about Muhammad in Confucius book or Analects yet maybe they cannot find any translation from classical Chinese to Malay or English yet to support the proof or can't find any mention about Muhammad in Chinese books like Mo Ha Ma Te or A Hah Mah Teh

DavidW

Can any Muslim show us where Muhamad was mentioned in Vedas, Bible or any sutras out there?