The Deity of Jesus Christ (Ketuhanan Yesus Kristus)

wattttb · Post time 18-3-2008 07:45 PM

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE"

Originally posted by alhaj72 at 18-3-2008 06:03 PM

On that time.. It's not only 10 peoples around Mecca...

I don't know how many but sure is many...

Jews Judaism, Jew Christian, Gentile Christian (Arabian), People who follow SUHUF of Ibrahim, sembah berhala pun ada dan bermacam-macam bangsa dan agama.....

Who knows... ada saksi mata ke? Sapa lak nak tulis sejarah sampai begitu punya detail... Mecca ada berapa penduduk pada masa tu.. agama ada berapa...etc

Luu piiikiiirrrr laaa sendiriiiii bebbbb....chow

Please.....dont confuse our CHRISTIAN , As we all know this is CHRISTIAN AND CHRISTIANITY site. So be base on THE BIBLE ONLY.

Yah... memang betul sejarah mengatakan tentang ABRAHAM...

Please listen to THE WORD OF GOD :-

"AS FOR ABRAHAM, YOUR ANCESTOR, HE LOOKED FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN I WOULD COME; AND HE REJOICED WHEN HE SAW IT."

And JESUS said "TRULY, I SAY TO YOU, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS I AM." (JOHN 8:56,58)

MAY GOD FORGIVE ALL OUR SIN.

AMEN

FROM WATT.

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orangbesi · Post time 19-3-2008 10:19 AM

salam

akui masa tu banyak pegangan/agama
tetapi adakah bezanya pegangan abraham, moses, jesus
atau kitab zabur utk daud
mungkin syariatnya ada beza mengikut umat....

takkan nak refer bible aje
sebelum bible ada kitab lagi
tak bolehkan kita pakai sekali???

wattttb · Post time 19-3-2008 12:53 PM

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE"

Originally posted by orangbesi at 19-3-2008 10:19 AM

salam

akui masa tu banyak pegangan/agama
tetapi adakah bezanya pegangan abraham, moses, jesus
atau kitab zabur utk daud
mungkin syariatnya ada beza mengikut umat....

takkan nak refer bible aje
sebelum bible ada kitab lagi
tak bolehkan kita pakai sekali???

Hey Orang besi,

THE CHURCH is BORN from "THE WORD OF GOD"  and BELIEVED.
Personal and communitarian faith should be rooted in reading  and interiorzation of THE WORD OF GOD.
On this premise.....so here WE ARE SO CALLED " CHRISTIAN"

THE BIBLE AND GOD' S PEOPLE WERE BORN  at the same time and have grown together.
GOD PEOPLE NEED THE BIBLE, but THE BIBLE has to be interpreted by THE PEOPLE OF GOD (ONLY THOSE INSTRUCTED  BY SPIRIT AND ENLIGHTENED BY THE GREAT WITNESSES OF FAITH).

NO ONE CAN  MAKE HIMSELF THE OWNER OF THE BIBLE AND ITS MESSAGE.

As we all are knows......
HUMAN CORRUPTED MIND has draged  PEOPLE OF GOD into the DARKNESS. They  run away from THE TRUTH  (THE BIBLE ).

HUMAN CORRUPTED MIND has cause THE PEOPLE OF GOD to run away from GOD.

BUT GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME..... THE LOST ( INCLUDED YOU AND ME AND ALL HUMAN KIND) NEED TO GO BACK TO HIS ORIGINAL HOME, WHERE GOD WILL BE WITH US :-

LET THE LORD BE PRAISED. I WILL GIVE PRAISE TO THE LORD WITH ALL MY HEART, AMONG THE UPRIGHT, AND IN MEETING OF THE PEOPLE.

THE WORKS OF THE LORD ARE GREAT, SEARCHED OUT BY ALL THOSE WHO HAVE DELIGHT IN THEM.

HIS WORL IS FULL OF HONOUR AND GLORY; AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS IS UNCHANGING FOR EVER.

CERTAIN FOR EVER IS THE MEMORY OF HIS WONDERS: THE LORD IS FULL OF PITY AND MERCY.

HE HAS GIVEN FOOD TO HIS WORSHIPPERS; HEWILL KEEP HIS AGREEMENT IN MIND FOR EVER.

HE HAS MADE CLEAR TO HIS PEOPLE THE POWER OF HIS WORKS, GIVING THEM THE HERITAGE OF THE NATIONS.

THE WORKS OF HIS HANDS ARE FAITH AND RIGHTEOUNESS; ALL HIS LAWS ARE UNCHANGING.

THEY ARE FIXED FOR EVERE AND EVER, THEY ARE DONE IN FAITH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.

HE HAS SENT SALVATION TO HIS PEOPLE; HE HAS GIVEN HIS WORD FOREVER: HOLU IS HIS NAME AND GREATLY TO BE FEARED.

THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS BEST PART OF WISDOM: ALL THOSE WHO KEEP HIS LAWS ARE WISE: HIS PRAISE IS ETERNAL
MAY GOD BLESS ALL

AMEN

FROM WATT

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orangbesi · Post time 19-3-2008 05:57 PM

salam

by wattb:
HUMAN CORRUPTED MIND has draged PEOPLE OF GOD into the DARKNESS. They run away from THE TRUTH (THE BIBLE ).

HUMAN CORRUPTED MIND has cause THE PEOPLE OF GOD to run away from GOD.

ya sebegitulah
tapi manusia semua hanya merasakan diri mereka yg BENAR!!!!!

wattttb · Post time 19-3-2008 06:49 PM

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE"

Originally posted by orangbesi at 19-3-2008 05:57 PM
by wattb:
HUMAN CORRUPTED MIND has draged PEOPLE OF GOD into the DARKNESS. They run away from THE TRUTH (THE BIBLE ).

HUMAN CORRUPTED MIND has cause THE PEOPLE OF GOD to run away from GOD.

ya sebegitulah
tapi manusia semua hanya merasakan diri mereka yg BENAR!!!!!

Dear Orangbesi,

Kerana itulah JESUS mengatakan:-

"AKU berkata kepadamu, sesungguhnya jika seorang tidak dilahirkan kembali, ia tidak dapat melihat Kerajaan ALLAH."

"AKU berkata kepadamu, sesungguhnya jika seorang tidak dilahirkan dari AIR dan ROH, ia tidak dapat masuk ke dalam Kerajaan ALLAH.

Apa yang dilahirkan dari daging, adalah daging, dan apa yang dilahirkan dari ROH, adalah ROH.

Janganlah engkau heran, karena AKU berkata kepadamu: Kamu harus dilahirkan kembali.

Angin bertiup ke mana ia mau, dan engkau mendengar bunyinya, tetapi engkau tidak tahu dari mana ia datang atau ke mana ia pergi. Demikianlah halnya dengan tiap-tiap orang yang lahir dari ROH".

Kebenaranya......Kita semua sudah Corrupted, kerana itu lah kita kata " SAYA BENAR!!!!.....LOGIK, ANDAIAN SINI-SANA" KITA MENGUNAKAN FIKIRAN ASAL YANG TELAH CORRUPTED....DAN KITA TIDAK MENYEDARI INI.....

Kerana itu JESUS datang menunjukan jalan KEMBALI kepada ALLAH BAPA di SURGA. Apa yang kita perlu buat.....IKUT LAH "FIRMAN TUHAN."

MAY GOD BLESS ALL

AMEN

FROM WATT

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alhaj72 · Post time 19-3-2008 10:23 PM

Mana yang benar... Old Testament atau New Testament?

Lu pikir laa sendiri beb..

shalom · Post time 19-3-2008 11:48 PM

Originally posted by alhaj72 at 19-3-2008 10:23 PM
Mana yang benar... Old Testament atau New Testament?

Lu pikir laa sendiri beb..

Dua-dua benar

Lu pun perlu pikir sendiri sebelum minta org pikir...

eastrun · Post time 20-3-2008 10:36 AM

Ooo..ye ke...bukan ke OT kat tangan Kristian dengan kat tangan orang Yahudi tu berbeza...kalau sama, kenapa Yahudi tak accept OT korang dan korang tak accept OT diorang...tak payah nak berlakonlah!!

Shwein1990 · Post time 20-3-2008 11:35 AM

mane ade saling tidak "mengaccept" ?? adekeh???

eastrun · Post time 20-3-2008 11:42 AM

Firman Tuhan adalah Quran

eastrun · Post time 20-3-2008 11:53 AM

xtau???...sgt ketinggalan

Shwein1990 · Post time 20-3-2008 12:12 PM

oh really? im outdated i guess....

would you mind telling me how tidak saling mengaccept?? the text of OT ? meaning of OT? interpretation of OT??

eastrun · Post time 20-3-2008 12:16 PM

Kalau saling mengaccept, kenapa Yahudi tak menerima kehadiran Jesus?.

Shwein1990 · Post time 20-3-2008 12:33 PM

speaking of Jesus, isnt his stories is in the NT?? so how does it related to OT.

the OT revealed that the Messiah will come. and Jesus is the Messiah but not accepted by the Jews. The Jews are still waiting for their Messiah like i said earlier.

eastrun · Post time 20-3-2008 12:36 PM

The Messiah that has been told in the OT will come from the Royal family..not the tukang kayu....so that is where the difference occured

wattttb · Post time 20-3-2008 12:46 PM

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE"

Originally posted by eastrun at 20-3-2008 12:36 PM
The Messiah that has been told in the OT will come from the Royal family..not the tukang kayu....so that is where the difference occured

Here Eastrun,

You sound like the Pharisees.....he he.

...................DONT MAKE JESUS SAD........

MAY GOD FORGIVE OUR SIN

AMEN

FROM WATT

eastrun · Post time 20-3-2008 12:48 PM

Yup..as I am not a Christian...the Pharisees rejected Jesus for he is not fulfilling the prophecies

Shwein1990 · Post time 20-3-2008 12:55 PM

Sir...... Jesus is the seed of King David. does it shows Jesus came from ROYAL FAMILY???

akukamudandia · Post time 20-3-2008 02:23 PM

saya ada soalan..

"Lukas" fasal 4 ayat 5 menyebut ; "Maka iblis pun membawa Dia ke puncak gunung.............."

menurut tafsiran saya, ini adalah satu kejadian yg aneh.. Tuhan dibawa oleh Iblis, bererti Tuhan tunduk kepada kemahuan Iblis...
ini bermakna, Iblis lebih berkuasa dr Tuhan..

boleh sesiapa terangkan dgn lebih lanjut mengenai ayat ini.. TQ

wattttb · Post time 20-3-2008 04:56 PM

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE "THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE"

Originally posted by eastrun at 20-3-2008 12:48 PM
Yup..as I am not a Christian...the Pharisees rejected Jesus for he is not fulfilling the prophecies

Bagus betul...kamu faham betul dengan orang Pharisees.
Orang ini lah yang MENYESATKAN AJARAN YANG DI TURUNKAN OLEH TUHAN.
Minda mereka telah di control oleh perkara duniawi.

Hukumanya begini :-

CAHAYA TELAH DATANG KE DUNIA, TETAPI MANUSIA SUKAKAN KEGELAPAN KERANA KEBANYAKAN PERBUATAN MEREKA ADALAH PERBUATAN SYAITAN.
SIAPA YANG BENCI AKAN CAHAYA TIDAK AKAN DATANG KEPADA CAHAYA, KERANA TAKUT PERBUATAN JAHATNYA AKAN DI KETAHUI.
SESIAPA YANG TINGGAL DALAM CAHAYA, PERBUATANYA NAMPAK JELAS DAN PERKERJAANYA ADALAH DALAM TUHAN.

MAY GOD BLESS ALL

AMEN

FROM WATT